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[Unknown Pleasures]

Also making excuses for political violence at a stage of things where you are approaching 1920s Germany is a horrible idea.

Yeah, and the vibe I got is the guy that got hit likely wasn't going around saying "fuck you n-bomb" to a bunch of people and acting aggressive. Sounds like he just said it, and banana-republic khakis kid tried to be mr. woke, defender of muh feelings for people everywhere.

People need to grow the fuck up and realize you can't escalate to physical violence like that because somebody said something bad. Kid is so stupid he thinks because it was on tape it was carte blanche to go ahead and blast the defenseless drunk dude like that. And it seemed like the word came up and he kept on egging him on to say it again. Total loser.

But douche mob justice these days seem to think that saying nasty shit is worse than doing nasty criminal shit. Like the guy who said the N-word should be fired and never be able to work again, and kid-khaki shouldn't have to face a mob.

 

[Fawlty]

Yeah, and the vibe I got is the guy that got hit likely wasn't going around saying "fuck you n-bomb" to a bunch of people and acting aggressive. Sounds like he just said it, and banana-republic khakis kid tried to be mr. woke, defender of muh feelings for people everywhere.

People need to grow the fuck up and realize you can't escalate to physical violence like that because somebody said something bad. Kid is so stupid he thinks because it was on tape it was carte blanche to go ahead and blast the defenseless drunk dude like that. And it seemed like the word came up and he kept on egging him on to say it again. Total loser.

But douche mob justice these days seem to think that saying nasty shit is worse than doing nasty criminal shit. Like the guy who said the N-word should be fired and never be able to work again, and kid-khaki shouldn't have to face a mob.

Too many assumptions here imo.

I agree with the opinion against violence and douche-mob violence generally, but all we know is that in those few seconds the n-bomber was being physically passive and the attack was calculated (sure didn't look like a misdemeanor to me). We don't know with much confidence what sort of things were said or felt by them or what led to it.

 

[Prokofievian]

He hit a guy with a skateboard for using a racial epithet. I don't think this is a grave moral offense. He shouldn't be lionized, but I don't think indulging the right wing mob, which has forced him off social media and is probably doing far worse as we speak, is helpful.

That's a skateboard directly in the face, and they're standing on concrete. He could have killed the kid. And it's pretty obvious that this was a weak target. Predatory, psychotic behaviour and you're defending it. You need to stop.

Also all your lists are ass.

 

[Trotsky]

I think you're underestimating the mortal threat from a skateboard to the head. That's closer to baseball bat territory than punching territory.

Maybe it's more significant than a punch. But it's way closer to a punch than to a freaking baseball bat. Ultimately it looks like he pulled up a little bit as well, which is why it barely knocked the guy back. Even going 50% with a baseball bat would break someone's face and potentially cause brain damage.

Ultimately, like I said, feeling the need to dignify that "OMG the left is murdering us" stuff with the usual "that was the wrong thing to do" is counterproductive imo.

 

[Fawlty]

Maybe it's more significant than a punch. But it's way closer to a punch than to a freaking baseball bat. Ultimately it looks like he pulled up a little bit as well, which is why it barely knocked the guy back. Even going 50% with a baseball bat would break someone's face and potentially cause brain damage.

Ultimately, like I said, feeling the need to dignify that "OMG the left is murdering us" stuff with the usual "that was the wrong thing to do" is counterproductive imo.

I'm not commenting on the "OMG" stuff, just the assault, and I'm definitely not "dignifying" anything. Definitely disagree about the danger of bashing somebody in the head with a skateboard. Luckily, the attacker was a pussy and wasn't able to swing it very hard.

 

[PolishHeadlock2]

Curb Your Enthusiasm theme song playing

 

[JDragon]

That's a skateboard directly in the face, and they're standing on concrete. He could have killed the kid. And it's pretty obvious that this was a weak target. Predatory, psychotic behaviour and you're defending it. You need to stop.

Also all your lists are ass.

In a democracy with rule of law, conflicts are supposed to be had with nonviolent means, and the monopoly of violence is with the state. I can understand to a certain point when there is the feeling that pushback against the state is necessary (though I would emphasize nonviolence here, too, at almost all cost). But the privatization of retribution for grievances is a big red line that cannot be crossed. Tbh I am a bit disappointed a lawyer like @Trotsky is just dismissive/casually supportive of that here.

 

[Prokofievian]

In a democracy with rule of law, conflicts are supposed to be had with nonviolent means, and the monopoly of violence is with the state. I can understand to a certain point when there is the feeling that pushback against the state is necessary (though I would emphasize nonviolence here, too, at almost all cost). But the privatization of retribution for grievances is a big red line that cannot be crossed. Tbh I am a bit disappointed a lawyer like @Trotsky is just dismissive/casually supportive of that here.

I actually disagree with this, too. But there's a time, place, and a line. If you say the wrong thing in Canada you might have to drop the gloves, and I actually like that. You can say whatever you like here, because everyone's a pussy and wont throw down. In 4 years here I've only seen one fight, and it was between two polish drunks. Most bars don't even have security, it's fucking wild.

But what happened in that video is not okay. Dollars to donuts Khakis is some rich kid bully who saw an opportunity to be cruel to someone, and I fucking hate cruelty.

 

[Trotsky]

I'm not commenting on the "OMG" stuff, just the assault, and I'm definitely not "dignifying" anything. Definitely disagree about the danger of bashing somebody in the head with a skateboard. Luckily, the attacker was a pussy and wasn't able to swing it very hard.

Yeah, I wasn't meaning to imply you were.

In a democracy with rule of law, conflicts are supposed to be had with nonviolent means, and the monopoly of violence is with the state. I can understand to a certain point when there is the feeling that pushback against the state is necessary (though I would emphasize nonviolence here, too, at almost all cost). But the privatization of retribution for grievances is a big red line that cannot be crossed. Tbh I am a bit disappointed a lawyer like @Trotsky is just dismissive/casually supportive of that here.

I'm not casually supportive of it, but I'm definitely dismissive of it as being significant or exceptionally egregious. And I definitely don't think it represents a license to murder conservatives. My biggest issue is that dignifying the outrage reinforces the selective narrative. These are the exact same guys who regularly cheer on violence against the left. And, even more ironically, they usually do so on the basis of imminence (don't want slugged? don't protest a Trump rally. don't want shot? don't charge a hillbilly who is chasing you with a gun.). Here, the imminence is obvious. The guy says, "say the N-word again and I'll hit you," and the guy said it....and got hit.

My biggest gripe is the apparent vulnerability/passivity of the guy who gets hit. Of course, we don't know what happened before the camera began rolling, whether he was on a racial tirade etc., but it doesn't come off that way. Even then, evaluating it against the backdrop of the usual conservative jerk off videos like the knock out game where some black youth sucker punches a white guy, it's no more alarming. Except the core fear that's being promoted isn't that a black person will target you at random and knock you out for being white while you're minding your own business. It's that a person will tell you not to dehumanize black people or else they'll strike you and then attack you if you proceed. I'm frankly more sympathetic to the first fear than the second.

 

[Unknown Pleasures]

Too many assumptions here imo.

I agree with the opinion against violence and douche-mob violence generally, but all we know is that in those few seconds the n-bomber was being physically passive and the attack was calculated (sure didn't look like a misdemeanor to me). We don't know with much confidence what sort of things were said or felt by them or what led to it.

True, but look what we do know. The guy is so drunk he seems borderline retarded and couldn't even protect himself from an advertised telegraphed skateboard to the face while casually having a cigarette. I have serious doubts what happened before would indicate a threat. And he's not even directing what he said to anyone I can tell, let alone his attacker. And the thing seemed to follow some sort of entrapment angle to it, of goading him to say something on camera so that he could be hit. Annnd it was uploaded by the attacker, so that too is a bit dubious as to it being so short if there was more of a "case" for violence to be made.

All that being said, it is still circumstantial, but whatever. The bar to turn verbal dispute into physical violence is pretty damn high, and what we do see is pretty much as compelling a case of not needing to go violent that I've ever seen like this. Can't believe the fool thought it was a good idea to post it online and give the noose to hang himself. Normally I associate that with bottom of the hood behavior, not banana republic wearers.

 

[JDragon]

Great idea and execution.

 

[Fedorable]

I’m definitely not the most knowledgeable about them but I have 2. What’s up?

My buddy just bought one. He's been having a lot of fun with it. Printing warhammer terrain mostly.

thinking of a gift for father. Something to keep him occupied.

got a few of these type blueprints:

 

[Limbo Pete]

Hey @Limbo Pete, let's say that hypothetically there's a poster who claimed social media persecution because they took down his personal photo of a dead beaver. Who would you guess that was?

Oh dear

 

[Jesus H. Sherdog]

I told the story here a while back, but my wing nut mom called me one day to tell me about a dream she had where the Chinese Red Dawn-ed her city and were confiscating peoples dogs so they could eat them. In the dream, she was trying to figure out how to euthanize her Labradors before they came to her home.

Woof.

I heard dreams like these are normal among the Japanese tbh

@Kafir-kun was that stout guy rip?

Ask @Ruprecht, he's the guy who is good at this kind of stuff. But I believe he was.

My imagination has been crippled. I refuse to believe.

I was always skeptical that a hardline Christian with 1950s values would choose the handle “Ripskater.” I figured he wasn’t genuine but I also never had an issue with him. I still don’t know what he was ever banned for on any accounts.

 

[Jesus H. Sherdog]

1942.

Land of the free and home of the brave where everyone is equal under the law, no doubt about it.

MAGA!!

 

[Islam Imamate]

Piece of shit? Prison time?

Who the fuck cares? He took a stand that dehumanizing people based on their skin was worth battery. And he battered him. Fine him for misdemeanor assault.

Also, just lol @ the "license to kill" from that dumbass in @deltapapha's post. Looking at his profile, he's a racist Trump-supporting piece of shit spamming alarmist propaganda about scary black people. He's like Andy Ngo but more overt. He's definitely said the N-word regularly in his life and any license to light him up would be a good one.

I doubt he was doing it for the right reasons. Dude seems like a cheeky cunt who wanted an excuse to hit someone that would go viral and came up with a concept that would spread like wildfire in these times. Put him in jail for a few days, maybe a week or two, so he'll learn his lesson.

Yes right wing mouth breathers are going to clutch their pearls but that doesn't change the fact that the guy is a cunt.

 

[My Spot]

That's a skateboard directly in the face, and they're standing on concrete. He could have killed the kid. And it's pretty obvious that this was a weak target. Predatory, psychotic behaviour and you're defending it. You need to stop.

Also all your lists are ass.

You're surprised the guy who left his GF to be date raped at a party is defending this?

 

[weed]

 

[My Spot]

In a democracy with rule of law, conflicts are supposed to be had with nonviolent means, and the monopoly of violence is with the state. I can understand to a certain point when there is the feeling that pushback against the state is necessary (though I would emphasize nonviolence here, too, at almost all cost). But the privatization of retribution for grievances is a big red line that cannot be crossed. Tbh I am a bit disappointed a lawyer like @Trotsky is just dismissive/casually supportive of that here.

Why are you disappointed? It's his MO.

 

[tonni]

Why are you disappointed? It's his MO.