War Room Lounge v148: all tip and no shaft

[AgonyandIrony]

You're witty and I can tell you are an interesting person with a lot to say. One only needs to look at your posts on average and see they are actually quite lengthy and chalked full of interesting opinions, real life experiences while also containing a good amount of real life facts. You know your History.

Thanks man that was nicer than I anticipated. Wit is one of the easiest identifiers of intelligence in my opinion, it's a certain way of looking at the world through a smirk. I also grew up idolizing people like Hemingway and Woody Guthrie so the role of transient storyteller has always been appealing, it also allows you to know people better and helps in communicating what most would see as radical ideology in ways that most people can understand it.

I love this idea that morality was so much different from what it is now across the board. Confederates love doing that, as if men like John Brown didn't exist, nor the existence of abolitionists at the formation of the USA.

 

[Chillin' Nuts]

I knew that one would hurt. A persons life is the easiest way to see if they are intelligent or not. And Remember, it took me one post to go from your books to the ignore party.

You see folks this is what I'm talking about.

I'm lobbing you these easy light-hearted softballs off of your bone-headed comments to get you to engage in some light banter and you don't get it.

Yeah, your "look at a person's life" comment was so deep, blew my mind.

Oh well, I'm going to go get high, take a shower a hit the sack. Take off hoser.

 

[AgonyandIrony]

Like I just got done explaining to Pete you come across like a guy in class that often put his personal values and ideals into the figures of history. You do know historians clash in this topic event today right? While Lee didn’t specifically speak out against slavery or there is no source to back this up presently he was not pro slavery.
“Of all the letters by Lee that have been collected by archivists and historians over the years, one of the most famous was written to his wife in 1856. “In this enlightened age, there are few I believe, but what will acknowledge, that slavery as an institution, is a moral & political evil in any Country,” he wrote.”

He was even against erecting confederate monuments. You can’t come into history emotional and think you’ll be clear enough to understand it. Rethink some things buddy no few people in history are either a maniacal evil person or a Lilly white angel. Almost everyone falls in the middle

Okay he was against erecting monuments. Now disprove the points I made, because you've made no attempts to do so. Disprove my accusations and I'll concede defeat.

Also it's adorable that you omit the entirety of the quote, on purpose I can assume.

I think it however a greater evil to the white man than to the black race, & while my feelings are strongly enlisted in behalf of the latter, my sympathies are more strong for the former. The blacks are immeasurably better off here than in Africa, morally, socially & physically. The painful discipline they are undergoing, is necessary for their instruction as a race, & I hope will prepare & lead them to better things. How long their subjugation may be necessary is known & ordered by a wise Merciful Providence. Their emancipation will sooner result from the mild & melting influence of Christianity, than the storms & tempests of fiery Controversy.

Disprove what I accused him of. It shouldn't be that hard.

 

[Lead]

@Lead hates @AgedFlatus

He seemed like a good guy. Haven’t heard from him in quite sometime though.

 

[PalmaSoriano]

I think he just tried to lecture me about presentism lmao

Oh he did.

Yep that’s the exact feeling I’m getting here. I don’t like the idea of history being destroyed cause emotions either (present attitudes)....I guess I could reply to you guys with some emojis but I’m out for the evening. Everyone interprets history in their own way so can’t be judgmental towards my colleague Pete here, take it easy fellas

 

[Sketch]

You see folks this is what I'm talking about.

I'm lobbing you these easy light-hearted softballs off of your bone-headed comments to get you to engage in some light banter and you don't get it.

Yeah, your "look at a person's life" comment was so deep, blew my mind.

Oh well, I'm going to go get high, take a shower a hit the sack. Take off hoser.

See ya, don’t forget the brisk walk.

 

[Sycho Sid]

Yep that’s the exact feeling I’m getting here. I don’t like the idea of history being destroyed cause emotions either (present attitudes)....I guess I could reply to you guys with some emojis but I’m out for the evening. Everyone interprets history in their own way so can’t be judgmental towards my colleague Pete here, take it easy fellas

Maybe you should stop "interpreting" things that factually happened.

 

[PalmaSoriano]

Okay he was against erecting monuments. Now disprove the points I made, because you've made no attempts to do so. Disprove my accusations and I'll concede defeat.

Also it's adorable that you omit the entirety of the quote, on purpose I can assume.


Disprove what I accused him of. It shouldn't be that hard.

I’ll will take a rain check and answer this tomorrow. I’m not here to defeat and prove you wrong so I can get a W on the karate forum but I’ll converse with you on this topic no problem. Later

 

[Curmudgeon]

He seemed like a good guy. Haven’t heard from him in quite sometime though.

 

[Unknown Pleasures]

Holy shit:

Dam, people are going to look at this shit in 20 years (or sooner) and just LOL at wonder what kind of drugs were people on.

 

[Jack V Savage]

Dam, people are going to look at this shit in 20 years (or sooner) and just LOL at wonder what kind of drugs were people on.

I like your optimism.

 

[Lead]

You didn’t like him? You shouldn’t see it as a betrayal I thought he was a good guy.

 

[luckyshot]

But most of all, this crisis is a direct result of the politicization of every aspect of our society for the benefit of a privileged few.
But most of all, this crisis is a direct result of the politicization of every aspect of our society for the benefit of a privileged few.
But most of all, this crisis is a direct result of the politicization of every aspect of our society for the benefit of a privileged few.

That needs to sink in.

There used to be a time, not that long ago, when not everything was a political "test item."

That time was called "Sanity."

Let's hope we can make it back there someday.

 

[Fawlty]

I’ll will take a rain check and answer this tomorrow. I’m not here to defeat and prove you wrong so I can get a W on the karate forum but I’ll converse with you on this topic no problem. Later

I think the skepticism from people who know their way around academics is due to you framing things in non-academic ways and presenting what seem to be lay arguments, or at least lay versions of arguments. This crowd likes the good stuff imo. We respect expertise, which is a breath of fresh air above the everyday WR sewer.

 

[AgonyandIrony]

I’ll will take a rain check and answer this tomorrow. I’m not here to defeat and prove you wrong so I can get a W on the karate forum but I’ll converse with you on this topic no problem. Later

You made a bullshit statement, I provided facts against that argument, you used two posts to insult me and my sources without a single bit of evidence against my claims.

Did Lee kidnap free black men and force them into slavery?
Did he refuse to trade black POWs for Confederate POWs because blacks were considered property?
Did he have to be taken to court to free slaves he inherited?
Was he not considered a brutal slave master even in comparison to other human traffickers such as himself?

Lee’s heavy hand on the Arlington, Virginia, plantation, Pryor writes, nearly led to a slave revolt, in part because the enslaved had been expected to be freed upon their previous master’s death, and Lee had engaged in a dubious legal interpretation of his will in order to keep them as his property, one that lasted until a Virginia court forced him to free them.

When two of his slaves escaped and were recaptured, Lee either beat them himself or ordered the overseer to “lay it on well.” Wesley Norris, one of the slaves who was whipped, recalled that “not satisfied with simply lacerating our naked flesh, Gen. Lee then ordered the overseer to thoroughly wash our backs with brine, which was done.”

A fine gentleman indeed! Do yourself a favor, pick up a book about John Brown (I recommend John Brown:Abolitionist for the most detailed about his life and impact) if you want to read about an actual Christian hero from that era.

 

[Limbo Pete]

Yep that’s the exact feeling I’m getting here. I don’t like the idea of history being destroyed cause emotions either (present attitudes)....I guess I could reply to you guys with some emojis but I’m out for the evening. Everyone interprets history in their own way so can’t be judgmental towards my colleague Pete here, take it easy fellas

Don't let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya

 

[Chillin' Nuts]

See ya, don’t forget the brisk walk.

Way ahead of you here.

 

[Curmudgeon]

You didn’t like him? You shouldn’t see it as a betrayal I thought he was a good guy.

I guess, I guess the only thing that will heal these wounds, is perhaps, a gifted plat.

 

[Islam Imamate]

@Prokofievian I'm watching the Amazon episode of Survivorman, and learning that jaguars don't give a shit about your rape whistle.

I remember that one, didn't he end up taking refuge with some natives because of the jaguar?

 

[Andy Capp]

Ok this really is messing with my head right now. Get this:
In Japan, they have a single word to describe the state of something broken that has been repaired by something precious like gold or silver such that it becomes even more valuable and precious than before it was broken, kintsugi.

On the other hand, it seems there's no equivalent to catchy, like in a catchy tune. According to my source, at least.