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Jack V Savage said:
I was just looking at fiction writers, and really just a list of what I think people who say that kind of thing ("this motherfucker has a deep understanding of the human condition") are thinking when they say it. Like I said, not too serious.
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Ah, that makes sense. I'm just looking at the list and noticing there are no women. I might put Toni Morrison on there. She clearly understands some elements of the human condition with a haunting degree of depth. I think the same can be said for Flannery O'Connor (although, probably to a lesser extent). I think, in general, female authors tend to focus on the particularities of the human condition within specific contexts rather than making grand pronouncements about the human condition as such, but that itself may be a profound statement on the human condition.

I'm thinking here of a novel like A Thousand Splendid Suns... for the characters in that novel, how can the human experience be understood more profoundly than through the limitations of their conditions?

Or if you just want to add a chick for the sake of inclusion, there's always Ayn Rand...










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Trotsky said:
And, yeah, I'm being a whiner about this, but only because of uneven enforcement that I and other left wing posters have received.
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spamking said:
Did you actually type that with a straight face?

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It is funny to see "both sides" complain about uneven enforcement. Have you considered that if there is uneven enforcement that it might be more related to uneven reporting rather than mod discretion? And that complaining about it while not reporting isn't the solution?
 
luckyshot said:
Ah, that makes sense. I'm just looking at the list and noticing there are no women. I might put Toni Morrison on there. She clearly understands some elements of the human condition with a haunting degree of depth. I think the same can be said for Flannery O'Connor (although, probably to a lesser extent). I think, in general, female authors tend to focus on the particularities of the human condition within specific contexts rather than making grand pronouncements about the human condition as such, but that itself may be a profound statement on the human condition.

And if you just want to add a chick for the sake of inclusion, there's always Ayn Rand.
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I believe Austen identified as female, and Joyce is a girl's name. But, yeah, that's still a lot of imbalance. In all honesty, I haven't read enough of Morrison or O'Connor to justify putting them there so their omission shouldn't be read as a judgment against them. I like Highsmith a lot (favorite of hers: The Blunderer), and she kind of goes there, but maybe too light? And Rand is hors concours for this list, right?
 
Jack V Savage said:
This calls for a Trotsky-style list.

Top 10 understanders of the human condition among famous writers:

1. Shakespeare
2. Dickens
3. Dostoyevsky
4. Kafka
5. DFW (*ducks*)
6. Bellow
7. Tolstoy
8. Austen
9. DeLillo
10. Joyce

Not to be taken too seriously, as I don't really know what the category even really means.
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No doubt.

Oddly enough, I know that Tolstoy at least didn't think much of Shakespeare. It's hard to criticize the Bard without your opinion coming off as sour grapes to a certain extent, however. No matter how famous you are in your own right.
 
Fawlty Elizabeth said:
Also I'm such a stereotypical first gaming PC building, googling idiot. Yeesh.

I just want 60fps at 1440p, with an 8 gig card if possible, and dunno about the CPU. Dunno if I should go SSD. PSU and fan stuff I can handle. I'm lost on the rest. Trying to keep it under 1k.
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Having an SSD is nearly as important as having a dedicated video card. Dropping the $100 on one is more important than the next level of gpu imo.
 
Jack V Savage said:
I believe Austen identified as female, and Joyce is a girl's name. But, yeah, that's still a lot of imbalance. In all honesty, I haven't read enough of Morrison or O'Connor to justify putting them there so their omission shouldn't be read as a judgment against them. I like Highsmith a lot (favorite of hers: The Blunderer), and she kind of goes there, but maybe too light? And Rand is hors concours for this list, right?
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Ah, I did gloss over Austen. I would include Toni Morrison above her, tbh. I have a very high opinion of Toni Morrison... Beloved may be the greatest Gothic novel of all time, imo.

I don't know Highsmith. I'll have to do some homework.

And, yes, Rand is just a... what do you call it... whore of course?
 
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Fawlty Elizabeth said:
Also I'm such a stereotypical first gaming PC building, googling idiot. Yeesh.

I just want 60fps at 1440p, with an 8 gig card if possible, and dunno about the CPU. Dunno if I should go SSD. PSU and fan stuff I can handle. I'm lost on the rest. Trying to keep it under 1k.
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Pseudo Sane said:
No doubt.

Oddly enough, I know that Tolstoy at least didn't think much of Shakespeare. It's hard to criticize the Bard without your opinion coming off as sour grapes to a certain extent, however. No matter how famous you are in your own right.
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Cultural opinions also factor into those sort of judgments. I've been told that the French, for example, consider Edgar Allan Poe to be the greatest author who ever wrote in English, not Shakespeare. Not sure to what extend that is true, but I can imagine reading a good French translation of Poe versus a translation of Shakespeare and reaching that conclusion... which once again, raises the question of how much of the impression of "profundity" actually arises from an author's craftsmanship in-- and possibly the unconscious biases inherently embedded in-- his native language. I think with Shakespeare, like I said, it's almost impossible for a native speaker of English to have an objective opinion of him because he was and is so clearly the greatest stylist of English who has ever lived-- his profundity comes largely from his breaking open of every nuance of the language. And also, he was so clearly the master of the forms in which he wrote. Like, he gets a lot of credit for expressing psychological nuance in an incredible economy and richness of language. Which, of course, he should, but it makes it pretty much impossible for you to know when you are judging him on substance versus on craftsmanship.
 
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luckyshot said:
Ah, I did gloss over Austen. I would include Toni Morrison above her, tbh. I have a very high opinion of Toni Morrison... Beloved may be the greatest Gothic novel of all time.

I don't know Highsmith. I'll have to do some homework.

And, yes, Rand is just a... what do you call it... whore of course?
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You know Highsmith's work, I'm sure, at least by reputation or adaptations. I have been meaning to check out more of Morrison.

And to be clear, since apparently sincere Rand fandom is a thing that still exists, I was joking about that.
 
Must resist urge to create DeSean Jackson thread purely to see how off the rails it can get
 
Sycho Sid said:
I got a couple grand to spend on a gaming comp. Enlighten me where my cash should go
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-Resolution and framerate?
-Absolute max budget?
-Do you have any peripherals (mouse, keyboard, monitor)?
 
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