War Room Lounge v136: I Have No Mouth And I Must Ooof

[Big Brain]

what does this have to do with black folks?

we're all in this together

 

[Joe]

When has he openly embraces right wing populism?

Its not a surprise though. This is why greenwald over looks the white nationalism of tucker because it's not something that is a big deal to the over all picture of working with the "populist" right. Big lol at tucker being a populist too.

 

[AnGrYcRoW]

we're all in this together

 

[Possum Jenkins]

I stand by my conclusion that Peterson's primary problem is that he's just not nearly smart enough (let alone as smart as he thinks) to make informed commentaries on most issues.

On the topic of extraordinary demonstrations of intelligence, @Possum Jenkins and @Prokofievian, I just finished William Taubman's biography of Nikita Krushchev and it's brilliant. Taubman's emotional intelligence is just off the charts. It won the Pulitzer Prize, so my expectations were pretty high going in, but it's simply the best biography I've ever read by far. His understanding of the times, of the Russian communist movement(s), and, most of all, his insights into Krushchev's motivations and insecurities are outstanding. Given Krushchev's personal story - a lowly rural peasant turned proletarian turned Stalinist thug turned liberal reformer turned disgraced victim of power - it feels like one of the most well-rounded insights into, as well as allegories for, the USSR.

He has another biography of Gorbachev that was released a few years ago that I'm going to check out, although I've always found Gorbachev to be a much less interesting figure than Nikita.

Nice. I've unintentionally strayed away from biographies the last several years. This might a good one to pick back up.

 

[Anung Un Rama]

Its not a surprise though. This is why greenwald over looks the white nationalism of tucker because it's not something that is a big deal to the over all picture of working with the "populist" right. Big lol at tucker being a populist too.

This is not “embracing right wing populism”

 

[Possum Jenkins]

@Possum Jenkins

to add to what I was saying prior about the no knock warrants.... it reminds me of the FBI raiding ISIS in Archer:


“You’re supposed to yell FBI after the flashbangs and before Other Fat Mike gets shot”

The whole Taylor thing is a colossal fuck up. It’s made worse when the guy they wanted..... was already in jail. Which is something the prosecutor or the detective that wrote up the affidavit for a warrant should have checked.

Yeah, no-knock raids in the middle of the night by plainclothes policemen is just begging for danger and should be reserved for cases where guns and drugs are verified to be present. Or where there's a high chance of danger.

This was an EMT nurse with her registered gun owning boyfriend and no drugs in the apartment.

 

[Trotsky]

Controversial (?) Opinion: Hoosiers is a really terrible film. Even by sports movie standards, it's bottom of the barrel. It's like someone shot a 5 hour long Hallmark movie and then randomly cut it down to 2 hours.

EDIT: My bad, apparently the channel I'm watching did cut it down pretty aggressively from 120 minutes to 90 minutes. Still pretty bad, though.

 

[Joe]

This is not “embracing right wing populism”

greenwald goes on tucker to talk about these "populist" issues that he agrees with tucker. Why would i be wrong?

 

[ultramanhyata]

I'm attempting to say that he hasn't proposed cutting SS and that Republicans repeatedly have.

Guess you're on Team Gaslighting with @Jack V Savage now. Sad!

https://theintercept.com/2020/01/13/biden-cuts-social-security/

 

[weed]

Guess you're on Team Gaslighting with @Jack V Savage now. Sad!

https://theintercept.com/2020/01/13/biden-cuts-social-security/

I'm on Team Candlelighting.

 

[Andy Capp]

Again no beavers were hurt in the making of this film. They had like 5 dams taking up about 5 feet, we got one down and would get like 2 feet back. Their entrance to their home in the Marsh behind the lake remained submerged and the foxes stayed out.

No worries; I am biased in the extreme. I regret not having been more obvious about that. If not for the NFB and school trips I would call them dirty rodents.

 

[Rational Poster]

When @Madmick finds out the recent Twitch news he might actually snap.

 

[Sycho Sid]

I'm so fucking tired of moving

 

[Possum Jenkins]

And in Cuba its often joked that you get in more trouble for slaughtering a cow than for killing a person. That's just one luxury that we Americans take for granted that Cuba lacks and that contributes to the gap in sustainability. The problem is Cubans live like that not out of choice but out of necessity due to the hardships imposed by the twin evils of the authoritarian communist government and the American embargo. So for instance, organic farming is becoming really popular on the island due to the fact that the country no longer receives agricultural inputs from the USSR with the American embargo not making it any easier. So Cubans without those things I think Cubans would jump head first into the completely unsustainable but irresistibly alluring lifestyle of America.

Great graph. I've never seen it before.

And yeah, Cuba's place on the X-axis isn't there by choice, but its Y-axis position is. And of course, it's there despite the 60-year attacks by the world's lone superpower. Imagine how much higher it'd be without it. But that's another topic.

Seems like Latin America, Pacific Asia and maaaaaaybe Eastern and Central Europe are somewhat on the right track. Goddamn, the US is just outrageous though. Might be beyond salvation. This country celebrates big ass V8s, all you can eat buffets, and shit like "retail therapy" way too much.

 

[Gandhi]

That's where I am at too. SO for instance I think hunting is an ethical way to harvest meat so long as the hunt itself is performed ethically.

I'm not an expert either but its almost certainly the case that current levels of beef consumption would be practically impossible to meet with free range beef, not to mention there are environmental concerns with free range beef as well(they push indigenous wildlife off their land, can contaminate rivers and streams with the volume of their shit, they can compact the ground and make it harder for water to seep into aquifers etc).

I truly believe that if we want a sustainable society when it comes to things like food and energy we need to not only rethink how we can generate a supply of sustainable food/energy but also how we can change and reduce demand. Consider Cuba, by some metrics the only sustainable country with a reasonable level of development.

And in Cuba its often joked that you get in more trouble for slaughtering a cow than for killing a person. That's just one luxury that we Americans take for granted that Cuba lacks and that contributes to the gap in sustainability. The problem is Cubans live like that not out of choice but out of necessity due to the hardships imposed by the twin evils of the authoritarian communist government and the American embargo. So for instance, organic farming is becoming really popular on the island due to the fact that the country no longer receives agricultural inputs from the USSR with the American embargo not making it any easier. So Cubans without those things I think Cubans would jump head first into the completely unsustainable but irresistibly alluring lifestyle of America.

Thanks ok so I had most of it.

Not feasibly for current demand, environmentally worse, as not always any better from a cruelty perspective and sometimes worse.

 

[Trotsky]

That's where I am at too. SO for instance I think hunting is an ethical way to harvest meat so long as the hunt itself is performed ethically.

I'm not an expert either but its almost certainly the case that current levels of beef consumption would be practically impossible to meet with free range beef, not to mention there are environmental concerns with free range beef as well(they push indigenous wildlife off their land, can contaminate rivers and streams with the volume of their shit, they can compact the ground and make it harder for water to seep into aquifers etc).

I truly believe that if we want a sustainable society when it comes to things like food and energy we need to not only rethink how we can generate a supply of sustainable food/energy but also how we can change and reduce demand. Consider Cuba, by some metrics the only sustainable country with a reasonable level of development.

And in Cuba its often joked that you get in more trouble for slaughtering a cow than for killing a person. That's just one luxury that we Americans take for granted that Cuba lacks and that contributes to the gap in sustainability. The problem is Cubans live like that not out of choice but out of necessity due to the hardships imposed by the twin evils of the authoritarian communist government and the American embargo. So for instance, organic farming is becoming really popular on the island due to the fact that the country no longer receives agricultural inputs from the USSR with the American embargo not making it any easier. So Cubans without those things I think Cubans would jump head first into the completely unsustainable but irresistibly alluring lifestyle of America.

Please provide any additional information you have on this. In re Cuba especially.

 

[Anung Un Rama]

greenwald goes on tucker to talk about these "populist" issues that he agrees with tucker. Why would i be wrong?

Again, which -populist issues? The ones that overlap with left populist issues?

 

[Trotsky]

Its not a surprise though. This is why greenwald over looks the white nationalism of tucker because it's not something that is a big deal to the over all picture of working with the "populist" right. Big lol at tucker being a populist too.

...the left should allow room for good policies from the right, populist or otherwise.

 

[Gandhi]

Great graph. I've never seen it before.

And yeah, Cuba's place on the X-axis isn't there by choice, but its Y-axis position is. And of course, it's there despite the 60-year attacks by the world's lone superpower. Imagine how much higher it'd be without it. But that's another topic.

Seems like Latin America, Pacific Asia and maaaaaaybe Eastern and Central Europe are somewhat on the right track. Goddamn, the US is just outrageous though. Might be beyond salvation. This country celebrates big ass V8s, all you can eat buffets, and shit like "retail therapy" way too much.

@Kafir-kun

yeah it’s a cool graph.

Would love to see it over time. So as the US grows in population and size of economy, how does the increase in per capital income correlate to the change in that pallet metric. Comparing that country to country would be interesting.

I’ll bet the increase in economy and population grows faster than the pallet metric does but As we know much of that wealth is then so concentrated at the top.

 

[tonni]

When @Madmick finds out the recent Twitch news he might actually snap.

What is it?