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JudoThrowFiasco said:
Surprise and spontaneity I find are keys to a comedy -- you lose that as you rewatch them. Probably why no one really laughs at that scenes shown in the trailer during the movies.

Groundhog day is funny as hell but I'm into deadpan -- it's why King Of the Hill is my all time favorite animation show.
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GD has a lot of smile moments ("I like to say a prayer and drink to world peace," for example) but no laugh moments for me. But I've seen it probably 20 times. I was a kid when I first saw it. I remember I was resistant to watching it originally, and it didn't do anything. But I pretty much memorized every scene, and I thought about it a lot. Few years later (as a young adult), I watched it again, and I thought it was the best movie I'd seen to that point. I'd still have it in my top 10.
 
Also, I think most of us can agree that Bill Murray can do no wrong and by all accounts is genuinely one of the funniest people around.

The story of him walking up to a random couple at a restaurant, taking an item of their plate without saying a word, eat it and then say "no one will ever believe you" -- hilarious
 
Jack V Savage said:
Sure, but the point is that any argument you use to attack the moral legitimacy of gov't also kicks out the legitimacy of property (naturally given that the gov't and property are inextricably linked).
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Basically, yeah. If property includes all things that could be possessed then my only counter would be someone's creations. Let's say there's no government for a bunch of folks living happily as a tribe in the Amazon and they (more or less) all share the land and resources. Let's say one person takes a tree branch and makes a flute. It's no stretch to think this group would respect the creator's right to control its use. Philosophically there's a clear difference between claiming and creating. You could say the branch was claimed, and it was. But there's no scarcity of branches so anyone could easily do the same thing for themselves with the available resources. We can't all eat the exact same piece of fruit or sit in the exact same shady spot. At some point individual consumption is just a fact of life.
 
Jack V Savage said:
GD has a lot of smile moments ("I like to say a prayer and drink to world peace," for example) but no laugh moments for me. But I've seen it probably 20 times. I was a kid when I first saw it. I remember I was resistant to watching it originally, and it didn't do anything. But I pretty much memorized every scene, and I thought about it a lot. Few years later (as a young adult), I watched it again, and I thought it was the best movie I'd seen to that point. I'd still have it in my top 10.
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This short story was ultimately what inspired Groundhog Day. It's fuckin' great. And short! Totally different vibe too.


 
Limbo Pete said:
He's a mega OG in Mayan study. I might just hit you up. I actually have sone time to read this summer.
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Yeah man let me know I love nerding out about History. I've taught world history and I see much more value in understanding Total History (like the Annales School) or Transnational History (like Atlantic History or Mediterranean or Caribbean History). Getting out of the really divisive area studies programs is important to the field. It's crucial to see the big picture over a long duration of time.
 
Jack V Savage said:
Interesting. I'm with you on two of them being great. ND is fun, but not super funny, IMO, but it's just MO.

Weird thing about comedy for me is that the movies that make me laugh the most the first time don't tend to hold up over time. My favorite movies that are comedies, the ones that are most rewatchable and that seem to never age, are usually not the funniest (for example, Groundhog Day is a comedy, and one of the best movies ever made, but it's not very funny).
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I think ND was a rare case of catching lightning in a bottle. For me, its humor is so fundamental that it has more lasting power than any other comedy movie. The kid getting hit in the face with the steak or the scene with the poultry farm-- I will never not laugh at those scenes.
 
@Trotsky what do you study? Is it Political Theory? I'm curious because you post like an academic
 
Pupi said:
Yeah man let me know I love nerding out about History. I've taught world history and I see much more value in understanding Total History (like the Annales School) or Transnational History (like Atlantic History or Mediterranean or Caribbean History). Getting out of the really divisive area studies programs is important to the field. It's crucial to see the big picture over a long duration of time.
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Fuckin A, bud
 
Trotsky said:
Laughter is my job. Tears are my game. Law is my profession.
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Interesting. What type of law? Civil Rights?

Limbo Pete said:
Fuckin A, bud
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Lol yeah. I think if people understand colonialism (much like the federal education policies) and its different forms and techniques then they can see much more commonalities with other societies.
 
Pupi said:
Yeah man let me know I love nerding out about History. I've taught world history and I see much more value in understanding Total History (like the Annales School) or Transnational History (like Atlantic History or Mediterranean or Caribbean History). Getting out of the really divisive area studies programs is important to the field. It's crucial to see the big picture over a long duration of time.
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Man I’d love to go get a higher degree and in my next career do something like that.

Long before I got into law enforcement I intended to become a teacher, I got my certification to teach fine art and social sciences at the HS level. Then 9/11 happened and my whole career path changed I guess haha.
 
Pupi said:
Interesting. What type of law? Civil Rights?
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Haha, that was a quote from The Office. But, really, law is my profession. I primarily do labor and employment law. Did some criminal defense, immigration, and corporate work in the past. Before law, my area of study was sociology. But I had minors in English and philosophy.
 
A.C. said:
Man I’d love to go get a higher degree and in my next career do something like that.

Long before I got into law enforcement I intended to become a teacher, I got my certification to teach fine art and social sciences at the HS level. Then 9/11 happened and my whole career path changed I guess haha.
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I feel you 100%. I've been out of academia for about a year now and I miss talking to different people in various departments and exchanging ideas. I can't speak for other people, but getting an education changed me for the better. Thats not uncommon, especially with 9/11. Big events like that tend to change peoples plans. There are bad workers and good workers in any field, but I think you're in a field that has more opportunities than most to affect peoples lives (whether for bad or for good). Teaching Social Science at the HS level might not be as rewarding...a lot of kids just don't give a shit.
 
Trotsky said:
Haha, that was a quote from The Office. But, really, law is my profession. I primarily do labor and employment law. Did some criminal defense, immigration, and corporate work in the past. Before law, my area of study was sociology. But I had minors in English and philosophy.
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LOL that makes a lot of sense and explains why you're a big leftie.
 
Pupi said:
Lol yeah. I think if people understand colonialism (much like the federal education policies) and its different forms and techniques then they can see much more commonalities with other societies.
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I took a sequence on imperialism this year and it was the tits. Folded right into my thesis.
Colonialism is just so friggin important for understanding why shit is the way it is.
 
Trotsky said:
So you fancy your self something of a history expert, eh?



Do you know the ancient history of who hurt RIPWarrior so badly in his past?
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My research is dark enough man

That guy has gotta have a horror show in the closet
 
Limbo Pete said:
My research is dark enough man

That guy has gotta have a horror show in the closet
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I feel like I could look into his past and see him walking in on his parents ass-to-assing, then getting beaten up by a gang of Crips, and then getting sucked into a storm drain and molested by a transexual Pennywise the clown - and I'd still think, "seriously? that's it?"
 
Trotsky said:
I feel like I could look into his past and see him walking in on his parents ass-to-assing, then getting beaten up by a gang of Crips, and then getting sucked into a storm drain and molested by a transexual Pennywise the clown - and I'd still think, "seriously? that's it?"
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Ha. He's been on my ignore list since I started using it. Surprised he's avoided the hammer for so long.
 
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