WAR ROOM LOUNGE V11: Now With More

[Fawlty]

I'm gotten to that my insult sonnet from the end of v10 got no love.

 

[Law Talkin’ Guy]

So I was just reading the previous version of this thread, the parts talking about Shadow_Priest_X’s demise. When did he delete his account or whatever? I know he lost it in the Roseanne thread and then he just stopped posting. But did getting rid of his account, only to leave “GuestX” or whatever, only occur in the last week or so?

Also, @JosephDredd quoted what’s apparently Shadow’s last post that he got from @Da Speeit and in the last post he says something like “I’ve been on this forum for SIX MONTHS” or something. What the hell was he talking about?
Shadow was posting on Sherdog for like 10 years or so.

 

[Jack V Savage]

Well, he did get banned. But he's back as "Soul Crusher" now.

OK. I think I put SC on my ignore list the first time I saw him post.

 

[Trotsky]

OK. I think I put SC on my ignore list the first time I saw him post.

RIP/SC really doesn't bother me, as he usually doesn't even try to argue outside of saying "bitter minorities" or "progressive libs." As long as I don't see any way a reasonable person could be persuaded, it's not worth getting angry over. And usually the only person who cosigns his shit is Contradictator, who may well be an alt-account himself since he likes hella posts but never comments himself.

 

[Deleted member 429137]

So I was just reading the previous version of this thread, the parts talking about Shadow_Priest_X’s demise. When did he delete his account or whatever? I know he lost it in the Roseanne thread and then he just stopped posting. But did getting rid of his account, only to leave “GuestX” or whatever, only occur in the last week or so?

Also, @JosephDredd quoted what’s apparently Shadow’s last post that he got from @Da Speeit and in the last post he says something like “I’ve been on this forum for SIX MONTHS” or something. What the hell was he talking about?
Shadow was posting on Sherdog for like 10 years or so.

I wondered about that six months thing as well. I have no answers for you, but I'm damn curious.

 

[Jesus H. Sherdog]

I feel you 100%. I've been out of academia for about a year now and I miss talking to different people in various departments and exchanging ideas. I can't speak for other people, but getting an education changed me for the better. Thats not uncommon, especially with 9/11. Big events like that tend to change peoples plans. There are bad workers and good workers in any field, but I think you're in a field that has more opportunities than most to affect peoples lives (whether for bad or for good). Teaching Social Science at the HS level might not be as rewarding...a lot of kids just don't give a shit.

Oh I don’t have any regrets, just kind of reflecting on it. I’ve gotten to do a ton of different stuff in my career and had good success so I’m happy with that.

 

[Da Speeit]

So I was just reading the previous version of this thread, the parts talking about Shadow_Priest_X’s demise. When did he delete his account or whatever? I know he lost it in the Roseanne thread and then he just stopped posting. But did getting rid of his account, only to leave “GuestX” or whatever, only occur in the last week or so?

Also, @JosephDredd quoted what’s apparently Shadow’s last post that he got from @Da Speeit and in the last post he says something like “I’ve been on this forum for SIX MONTHS” or something. What the hell was he talking about?
Shadow was posting on Sherdog for like 10 years or so.

Oh dear what have i done

 

[Jack V Savage]

RIP/SC really doesn't bother me, as he usually doesn't even try to argue outside of saying "bitter minorities" or "progressive libs." As long as I don't see any way a reasonable person could be persuaded, it's not worth getting angry over. And usually the only person who cosigns his shit is Contradictator, who may well be an alt-account himself since he likes hella posts but never comments himself.

Yeah, ignoring isn't about bothering but about content providers that will never be worth reading.

 

[Fawlty]

Oh dear what have i done

You've created deep intrigue and fought for great justice, obv.

 

[Cubo de Sangre]

I'm gotten to that my insult sonnet from the end of v10 got no love.

Only thing worse than Shakespeare is Chaucer.

Fun memory sidenote. In high school we studied Shakey in English and I had a separate speech class. One speech was a eulogy. I chose WS. It was the only speech I didn't prepare for due to getting bumped in the schedule thanks to absences). Got up there and started spouting English class, in eulogy form, threw in a long "moment" of silence, reached my time requirement, got an A. Still can't stand the shit.

 

[Fawlty]

Only thing worse than Shakespeare is Chaucer.

Fun memory sidenote. In high school we studied Shakey in English and I had a separate speech class. One speech was a eulogy. I chose WS. It was the only speech I didn't prepare for due to getting bumped in the schedule thanks to absences). Got up there and started spouting English class, in eulogy form, threw in a long "moment" of silence, reached my time requirement, got an A. Still can't stand the shit.

Absolute blasphemy lol.

I may be biased though as I'm (humblebrag incoming) getting an essay published that I wrote about one of his plays.

It's an absolute bitch to wade through some of the language but there is nothing that compares to it in terms of density of meaning, puns, allusions, etc. I don't even try to read his stuff without a couple translations and references handy (especially Greek mythology and the Bible).

I can't fully appreciate a Shakespeare joint unless I've read it at least twice, read about it extensively, and seen it performed a couple of times. I guess it's a long haul kind of thing, takes commitment and a deep love for language.

 

[Cubo de Sangre]

Absolute blasphemy lol.

I may be biased though as I'm (humblebrag incoming) getting an essay published that I wrote about one of his plays.

It's an absolute bitch to wade through some of the language but there is nothing that compares to it in terms of density of meaning, puns, allusions, etc. I don't even try to read his stuff without a couple translations and references handy (especially Greek mythology and the Bible).

I can't fully appreciate a Shakespeare joint unless I've read it at least twice, read about it extensively, and seen it performed a couple of times. I guess it's a long haul kind of thing, takes commitment and a deep love for language.

Congrats! Presuming it's not like one of those pay to play poetry things.

That's great that you appreciate it. Not my thing. In fact, reading fiction makes my eyes roll back as my body shuts down into nappy nap time.

Kudos to you for bringing some fun to your posting. If you've got a suggestion box I'd be far more interested in some Bogart private detective-style shit. See?

 

[Fawlty]

Congrats! Presuming it's not like one of those pay to play poetry things.

That's great that you appreciate it. Not my thing. In fact, reading fiction makes my eyes roll back as my body shuts down into nappy nap time.

Kudos to you for bringing some fun to your posting. If you've got a suggestion box I'd be far more interested in some Bogart private detective-style shit. See?

Ha, I couldn't write like that even if I lost my color vision. Woof.

 

[Cubo de Sangre]

Ha, I couldn't write like that even if I lost my color vision. Woof.

Hammet may not be Shakeyspere, but he speaks American.

Was it ever proved or disproved that WS actually wrote all the stuff he is credited with or did he immortalize in writing what was already part of the oral tradition?

 

[Fawlty]

Hammet may not be Shakeyspere, but he speaks American.

Was it ever proved or disproved that WS actually wrote all the stuff he is credited with or did he immortalize in writing what was already part of the oral tradition?

I don't think this is as much of an open question as people think. There isn't much evidence around for any person of that time period who wasn't a king or something, so it's really easy to doubt that one person did anything so prolific, especially an outlying genius like Shakespeare, who is Einstein-rare. But as I've read his plays on and off all my life, I've never felt like it wasn't the same voice. I would bet my life that the same person who wrote A Midsummer Night's Dream also wrote Hamlet. The best pieces of evidence that Shakespeare was one person who wrote everything is that two of his contemporaries published his works in his name after his death, and the criticism of Shakespeare's writing where he is personally attacked in his own time. Personally I think it's a slam dunk, one guy.

ed: There's good info on Wikipedia on that stuff.

 

[Cubo de Sangre]

I don't think this is as much of an open question as people think. There isn't much evidence around for any person of that time period who wasn't a king or something, so it's really easy to doubt that one person did anything so prolific, especially an outlying genius like Shakespeare, who is Einstein-rare. But as I've read his plays on and off all my life, I've never felt like it wasn't the same voice. I would bet my life that the same person who wrote A Midsummer Night's Dream also wrote Hamlet. The best pieces of evidence that Shakespeare was one person who wrote everything is that two of his contemporaries published his works in his name after his death, and the criticism of Shakespeare's writing where he is personally attacked in his own time. Personally I think it's a slam dunk, one guy.

ed: There's good info on Wikipedia on that stuff.

Thanks.

I guess I've never questioned the same voice wrote it all down. Just noticed there seemed to be questions about how developed the stories were before he put his talents to the task.

In music terms that's basically a cover band. But I'm just talkin' here and I apologize if you've gotten the impression I'm challenging your tastes or WS's greatness.

 

[Fawlty]

Thanks.

I guess I've never questioned the same voice wrote it all down. Just noticed there seemed to be questions about how developed the stories were before he put his talents to the task.

In music terms that's basically a cover band. But I'm just talkin' here and I apologize if you've gotten the impression I'm challenging your tastes or WS's greatness.

Lots of what he wrote was unoriginal in terms of stories, yeah. Like Romeo and Juliet goes way back, to Ovid's Metamorphoses (Pyramus and Thisbe, who are used in Midsummer), which in turn probably goes back to ancient Babylon. He's always teasing Greek mythology and biblical themes too. He lifted iambic pentameter from Chaucer I think. That doesn't qualify as a cover band for me any more than modern movies tell familiar stories. "Nothing new under the sun" and all that. It was customary to put your own spin on old tales and established literature, too. He wrote a lot of histories, and his comedies and tragedies are stuffed with historical allusions. It's probably not a fair comparison.

 

[Cubo de Sangre]

As we transition from NBA skipping baseball to the NFL, here's a good piece on a true artist in sports. Antonio Brown is now starting to garner the Jerry Rice comparisons. High praise, even if/when he falls short. To Brown's credit, he's statistically on what looks like the greatest five year run ever. Most yards and catches over that span. Only dude ever with 100+ catches for five straight. Practically HOF-worthy right there.

Going back to the Jerry comparison, I think there's a stat left out that reflects the defining gap between the two. Touchdowns. Jerry took it to the house like no other. That's why he's arguable the greatest player ever. On the Short-list with Jim Brown and the voter's wildcard personal favorite. I don't even care about rings so much because that's a team thing (eg. Barry Sanders). Although a ring or two is gonna make the difference when all else is close. Fair enough. But there's no arguing getting TD's. That said, behold artistry that even Mr. Rice should tip the hat to. Never seen a player more than Brown have me convinced he was out of bound in full-speed only to be proven wrong on replay. Friggin' Baryshnikov on the sidelines.




Here's to 10 more years of AB and us having the real opportunity to debate Rice's continued supremacy.

 

[Cubo de Sangre]

Lots of what he wrote was unoriginal in terms of stories, yeah. Like Romeo and Juliet goes way back, to Ovid's Metamorphoses (Pyramus and Thisbe, who are used in Midsummer), which in turn probably goes back to ancient Babylon. He's always teasing Greek mythology and biblical themes too. He lifted iambic pentameter from Chaucer I think. That doesn't qualify as a cover band for me any more than modern movies tell familiar stories. "Nothing new under the sun" and all that. It was customary to put your own spin on old tales and established literature, too. He wrote a lot of histories, and his comedies and tragedies are stuffed with historical allusions. It's probably not a fair comparison.

Maybe he's to traditional tales what Led Zeppelin is to the Blues?

 

[Pupi]

I took a sequence on imperialism this year and it was the tits. Folded right into my thesis.
Colonialism is just so friggin important for understanding why shit is the way it is.

The history of empire is fascinating particularly because its the political unit that has been around the longest in recorded history and its been a global phenomena.

Oh I don’t have any regrets, just kind of reflecting on it. I’ve gotten to do a ton of different stuff in my career and had good success so I’m happy with that.

I feel you. I'm on a similar boat now and I don't regret it one bit.