Social War Room Lounge Thread #325: PotWR Edition

[Rob Battisti]

I think there's a lot of factors involved though. You can buy a cheap house in the US if you're okay with living in West Virginia but most Americans aren't for obvious reasons.

Another wonderful housing take by Islam.

“You can buy a cheap house if you leave your family, friends and job to live in a small house in West Virginia”

 

[Islam Imamate]

Not to an obvious extent

Ah maybe I misunderstood then.

Another wonderful housing take by Islam.

“You can buy a cheap house if you leave your family, friends and job to live in a small house in West Virginia”

I'm not saying people should do that to be clear. Tim Pool's compound is in West Virginia and if I had to guess its because he wanted the cheapest land possible mainly for the purpose of building a skatepark in his backyard. Despite the fact that his company is an online media firm even Patrick Bet David criticized him recently when Pool complained about his staff by pointing out that maybe you're not going to find the best talent in West Virginia and he's probably right.

Personally I think its better to make it easier to build housing in the cities people actually want to live in but you disagree.

 

[Rob Battisti]

Ah maybe I misunderstood then.

I'm not saying people should do that to be clear. Tim Pool's compound is in West Virginia and if I had to guess its because he wanted the cheapest land possible mainly for the purpose of building a skatepark in his backyard. Despite the fact that his company is an online media firm even Patrick Bet David criticized him recently when Pool complained about his staff by pointing out that maybe you're not going to find the best talent in West Virginia and he's probably right.

Personally I think it’s better to make it easier to build housing in the cities people actually want to live in but you disagree.

Hah, in cities? Do what you want in cities. My argument was in surrounding suburban towns

 

[Andy Capp]

Id love to be one those damn immigrants that buy a cheap house in the countryside of Japan....except it's damn near impossible to assimilate as a gaijin there.

I'm not convinced that's true if you can learn enough to be fluent in the language. It helps to be really outgoing though, mind you.

 

[Islam Imamate]

Hah, in cities? Do what you want in cities. My argument was in surrounding suburban towns

Yeah and your argument is dumb, those suburbs are part of the wider metro area and allowing people to build housing there helps alleviate housing costs while preventing it exacerbates the housing crisis. You really don't have a leg to stand on when it comes to sneering at my housing takes when you actively want housing to be unaffordable.

 

[Rob Battisti]

Yeah and your argument is dumb, those suburbs are part of the wider metro area and allowing people to hold housing there helps alleviate housing costs while preventing it exacerbates the housing crisis. You really don't have a leg to stand on when it comes to sneering at my housing takes when you actively want housing to be unaffordable.

Your position: little to no zoning laws.

My position: let the zoning laws be set by the communities themselves.

 

[Islam Imamate]

Your position: little to no zoning laws.

Not no zoning laws, obviously I don't want industrial plants in neighborhoods. I just think you should be allowed to build housing on the land you own by right. You disagree and think your neighbor should have a veto over one properly rights.

My position: let the zoning laws be set by the communities themselves.

Your position is that suburbs should only allow single family housing, the exact logic which helped create the housing crisis in the first place.

 

[Rob Battisti]

Not no zoning laws, obviously I don't want industrial plants in neighborhoods. I just think you should be allowed to build housing on the land you own by right. You disagree and think your neighbor should have a veto over one properly rights.

Your position is that suburbs should only allow single family housing, the exact logic which helped create the housing crisis in the first place.

“Little to no”

My position is exactly what I said it was. Local communities should decide what their local community zoning laws are.

 

[Islam Imamate]

“Little to no”

My position is exactly what I said it was. Local communities should decide what their local community zoning laws are.

Your position is that NIMBYs should be allowed to block anything other than single family housing and this is precisely the reason we have a housing crisis.

 

[Rob Battisti]

Your position is that NIMBYs should be allowed to block anything other than single family housing and this is precisely the reason we have a housing crisis.

How I would vote in those communities is irrelevant. I would respect the will of the community to govern itself.

I would chose to live in a community that votes to maintain normative zoning laws. I would support any community to vote how they please.

 

[Islam Imamate]

How I would vote in those communities is irrelevant. I would respect the will of the community to govern itself.

I would chose to live in a community that votes to maintain normative zoning laws. I would support any community to vote how they please.

It's not irrelevant though, NIMBYs like you are why housing is so unaffordable.

 

[Rob Battisti]

It's not irrelevant though, NIMBYs like you are why housing is so unaffordable.

NIMBYs like me. AKA the majority of people who live in reality LMAO.

 

[Islam Imamate]

NIMBYs like me. AKA the majority of people who live in reality LMAO.

What do you mean?

 

[Rob Battisti]

What do you mean?

In reality, and in my preferred opinion, the communities vote for the zoning they prefer. If they vote for one set of zoning laws over another then that’s the will of the people. Your position is in an extreme minority, otherwise we’d have what you want.

 

[Islam Imamate]

In reality, and in my preferred opinion, the communities vote for the zoning they prefer. If they vote for one set of zoning laws over another then that’s the will of the people. Your position is in an extreme minority, otherwise we’d have what you want.

There's a reason zoning reform has become increasingly popular, it's because people are waking up to how NIMBYism of the kind you advocate for is largely to blame for the housing crisis. California has passed laws to make it easier to build ADUs and Austin rents have famously fallen after they passed comprehensive zoning reform.

 

[Rob Battisti]

There's a reason zoning reform has become increasingly popular, it's because people are waking up to how NIMBYism of the kind you advocate for is largely to blame for the housing crisis. California has passed laws to make it easier to build ADUs and Austin rents have famously fallen after they passed comprehensive zoning reform.

And it is every local municipalities right to vote how they want.

 

[Islam Imamate]

And it is every local municipalities right to vote how they want.

Sure but NIMBYism on the merits is dumb and bad and thankfully people are waking up to that.

 

[Rob Battisti]

Sure but NIMBYism on the merits is dumb and bad and thankfully people are waking up to that.

That’s definitely an opinion

 

[Islam Imamate]

That’s definitely an opinion

A correct one.

Making it harder to build housing makes housing less affordable and making housing unaffordable is bad. You disagree and think making housing unaffordable is good actually.

 

[Rob Battisti]

A correct one.

Making it harder to build housing makes housing less affordable and making housing unaffordable is bad. You disagree and think making housing unaffordable is good actually.

Yeah man. Whatever you say.