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Starbucks ordered to pay $50 million to delivery driver burned by hot beverage​


A jury in California on Friday ordered Starbucks to pay $50 million in damages to a delivery driver who was severely burned by an improperly secured lid on hot beverages.

Michael Garcia was picking up drinks at a drive-through in Los Angeles when he “suffered severe burns, disfigurement, and debilitating nerve damage to his genitals when hot drinks ultimately spilled” onto his lap, according to the lawsuit filed in California Superior Court in 2020. The lawsuit accused Starbucks of breaching its duty of care by failing to secure the lid.

Michael Parker, Garcia’s lawyer, said his client was picking up three beverages and one of the hot drinks wasn’t fully pushed into the container. When the barista handed Garcia the order, a drink fell out of the container and onto Garcia, Parker said.

Garcia’s damages included physical pain, mental anguish, loss of enjoyment of life, humiliation, inconvenience, grief, disfigurement, physical impairment, anxiety and emotional distress, according to a recording of the verdict from Courtroom View Network.

Starbucks said it plans to appeal the verdict.

“We sympathize with Mr. Garcia, but we disagree with the jury’s decision that we were at fault for this incident and believe the damages awarded to be excessive,” a company spokesperson said in a statement. “We have always been committed to the highest safety standards in our stores, including the handling of hot drinks.”

The lawsuit is reminiscent of a famous 1994 lawsuit against McDonald’s in which a woman spilled hot coffee on her lap and suffered third-degree burns. The plaintiff in that case, Stella Liebeck, was originally awarded nearly $3 million.


i'm sure he's not feeling distraught or humiliated anymore after that jury verdict got handed down.

that's it, i'm heading to starbucks and spilling some coffee on my crotch. my life will never be the same again! for $50 million i could live with a little bit of emotional distress, mental anguish, anxiety, and perhaps i'll even tell them that i got a disfigured dick too!
 
idrankyourbeer said:

Starbucks ordered to pay $50 million to delivery driver burned by hot beverage​


A jury in California on Friday ordered Starbucks to pay $50 million in damages to a delivery driver who was severely burned by an improperly secured lid on hot beverages.

Michael Garcia was picking up drinks at a drive-through in Los Angeles when he “suffered severe burns, disfigurement, and debilitating nerve damage to his genitals when hot drinks ultimately spilled” onto his lap, according to the lawsuit filed in California Superior Court in 2020. The lawsuit accused Starbucks of breaching its duty of care by failing to secure the lid.

Michael Parker, Garcia’s lawyer, said his client was picking up three beverages and one of the hot drinks wasn’t fully pushed into the container. When the barista handed Garcia the order, a drink fell out of the container and onto Garcia, Parker said.

Garcia’s damages included physical pain, mental anguish, loss of enjoyment of life, humiliation, inconvenience, grief, disfigurement, physical impairment, anxiety and emotional distress, according to a recording of the verdict from Courtroom View Network.

Starbucks said it plans to appeal the verdict.

“We sympathize with Mr. Garcia, but we disagree with the jury’s decision that we were at fault for this incident and believe the damages awarded to be excessive,” a company spokesperson said in a statement. “We have always been committed to the highest safety standards in our stores, including the handling of hot drinks.”

The lawsuit is reminiscent of a famous 1994 lawsuit against McDonald’s in which a woman spilled hot coffee on her lap and suffered third-degree burns. The plaintiff in that case, Stella Liebeck, was originally awarded nearly $3 million.


i'm sure he's not feeling distraught or humiliated anymore after that jury verdict got handed down.

that's it, i'm heading to starbucks and spilling some coffee on my crotch. my life will never be the same again! for $50 million i could live with a little bit of emotional distress, mental anguish, anxiety, and perhaps i'll even tell them that i got a disfigured dick too!
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If you are suggesting this is a frivolous lawsuit, you need a kick in the nut sack to go with your useless dick.

You'd think they would have learned the lesson of that poor woman injured by McDonald's coffee. The issue in that case was they deliberately kept the coffee hotter than it needed to be. If it was shown during this trial that Starbucks did the same then fuckem with a sharp stick.

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idrankyourbeer said:
i'm sure he's not feeling distraught or humiliated anymore after that jury verdict got handed down.
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You can fuck right off with that shit.
 
Andy Capp said:
If you are suggesting this is a frivolous lawsuit, you need a kick in the nut sack to go with your useless dick.

You'd think they would have learned the lesson of that poor woman injured by McDonald's coffee. The issue in that case was they deliberately kept the coffee hotter than it needed to be. If it was shown during this trial that Starbucks did the same then fuckem with a sharp stick.

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You can fuck right off with that shit.
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are you drunk?

you really think he went through physical pain, mental anguish, loss of enjoyment of life, humiliation, inconvenience, grief, disfigurement, physical impairment, anxiety and emotional distress over a little bit of spilled coffee? or perhaps maybe he was just trying to cash in bigly off of an accident, like most sue-happy people would?

i'm sure his life will never be the same after that. he had to change his pants and then figure out what he was going to spend all of his newfound riches on. oh the humanity!

forget about the 50 million dollars. that kind of money will never make up for the utter humiliation and emotional distress he went through by spilling a drink on himself. i'm sure he still gets nightmares over that shit! should have gave him a hundred million dollars because fifty million ain't enough to make up for the damaged reputation. he will forever be known as the guy who was no longer able to enjoy living because he spilled some coffee on himself, and nothing short of a hundred bajillion dollars is ever going to fix that.
 
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fuck it, i'm gonna buy some beer and accidentally spill some on the floor and then make myself $80,278,923.14 richer after i sue the molson brewing corporation for emotional distress, loss of enjoyment of life, humiliation, grief, mental anguish, and anxiety.

whoever says don't cry over spilled milk didn't say anything about spilled beer. i'm gonna cry like hell over that, all the way to my lawyers office. that's perfectly good beer gone to waste. i'll be losing plenty of sleep and wages over that. when i'm 80 years old i will still be haunted by that very day where i became emotionally traumatized after i accidentally tipped over a bottle of beer. my reputation was forever tarnished. ain't no amount of money gonna be able to rectify the humiliation and emotional distress i received over that, but a little over 80 million dollars would be enough to keep my mind off the grief and anguish for a while. at least i would be able to enjoy my life again.

the molson brewing corporation better hope the beer don't hit me in the dick or on the foot on it's way down or they're never gonna be able to afford to pay my settlement.

come to think about it they stopped selling 6 and 8 packs of beer with the plastic ring carrier things up here, and they are now put inside cheap cardboard box cases that easily fall apart and the beer cans go everywhere. now if i can just get one of those to break as i'm carrying it out of the liquor store and have one of the cans hit me in the foot i'll be laughing straight to the bank! i can just smell that emotional distress money coming in now as i've got my foot all wrapped up and i'm moving around in crutches as people start calling me peg-leg, gimp-limp, or cripple.
 
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idrankyourbeer said:
fuck it, i'm gonna buy some beer and accidentally spill some on the floor and then make myself $80,278,923.14 richer after i sue the molson brewing corporation for emotional distress, loss of enjoyment of life, humiliation, grief, mental anguish, and anxiety.

whoever says don't cry over spilled milk didn't say anything about spilled beer. i'm gonna cry like hell over that, all the way to my lawyers office. that's perfectly good beer gone to waste. i'll be losing plenty of sleep and wages over that. when i'm 80 years old i will still be haunted by that very day where i became emotionally traumatized after i accidentally tipped over a bottle of beer. my reputation was forever tarnished. ain't no amount of money gonna be able to rectify the humiliation and emotional distress i received over that, but a little over 80 million dollars would be enough to keep my mind off the grief and anguish for a while. at least i would be able to enjoy my life again.

the molson brewing corporation better hope the beer don't hit me in the dick or on the foot on it's way down or they're never gonna be able to afford to pay my settlement.

come to think about it they stopped selling 6 and 8 packs of beer with the plastic ring carrier things up here, and they are now put inside cheap cardboard box cases that easily fall apart and the beer cans go everywhere. now if i can just get one of those to break as i'm carrying it out of the liquor store and have one of the cans hit me in the foot i'll be laughing straight to the bank! i can just smell that emotional distress money coming in now as i've got my foot all wrapped up and i'm moving around in crutches as people start calling me peg-leg, gimp-limp, or cripple.
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Read this,

Liebeck v. McDonald's Restaurants - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org
 
Andy Capp said:
Read this,

Liebeck v. McDonald's Restaurants - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org
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yeah i'm well aware of that and so is every other sue-happy person in the america's.

everybody is well aware that the coffee is hot. it even contains warning labels on every cup. but that damn sure ain't gonna stop people from suing them.

for 50 million dollars i'd spill some coffee on my dick without having any second thoughts. aww hell i would even dip my cock inside the god damn coffee pot. what about you andy? everybody has a price.
 
idrankyourbeer said:
yeah i'm well aware of that and so is every other sue-happy person in the america's.

everybody is well aware that the coffee is hot. it even contains warning labels on every cup. but that damn sure ain't gonna stop people from suing them.

for 50 million dollars i'd spill some coffee on my dick without having any second thoughts. aww hell i would even dip my cock inside the god damn coffee pot. what about you andy? everybody has a price.
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Go for it. Let me know how that works out for you.
 
Andy Capp said:
Go for it. Let me know how that works out for you.
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got me banned from mcdonalds and hauled off to jail. apparently they don't appreciate it when you whip out your bird and dunk it in their coffee pots.

tomorrow i will go teabagging at a wendys. gonna burn my balls for that sweet sweet $50 million.
 
idrankyourbeer said:
got me banned from mcdonalds and hauled off to jail. apparently they don't appreciate it when you whip out your bird and dunk it in their coffee pots.

tomorrow i will go teabagging at a wendys. gonna burn my balls for that sweet sweet $50 million.
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Naw, just go ahead and spill a tray of coffee on your lap and let me know how that is working out for you a year from now.
 
Are there any Serbians on the Dawg?

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Serbia's largest-ever rally sees 325,000 protest against government

The collapse of a station canopy that killed 15 people has galvanised anger towards the government.
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Wondered what their thoughts might be on this, but probably too niche for most Doggers.

I could post it as a "this is what far right actually represents" type narrative, but don't really know much about the situation.
 
idrankyourbeer said:

Starbucks ordered to pay $50 million to delivery driver burned by hot beverage​


A jury in California on Friday ordered Starbucks to pay $50 million in damages to a delivery driver who was severely burned by an improperly secured lid on hot beverages.

Michael Garcia was picking up drinks at a drive-through in Los Angeles when he “suffered severe burns, disfigurement, and debilitating nerve damage to his genitals when hot drinks ultimately spilled” onto his lap, according to the lawsuit filed in California Superior Court in 2020. The lawsuit accused Starbucks of breaching its duty of care by failing to secure the lid.

Michael Parker, Garcia’s lawyer, said his client was picking up three beverages and one of the hot drinks wasn’t fully pushed into the container. When the barista handed Garcia the order, a drink fell out of the container and onto Garcia, Parker said.

Garcia’s damages included physical pain, mental anguish, loss of enjoyment of life, humiliation, inconvenience, grief, disfigurement, physical impairment, anxiety and emotional distress, according to a recording of the verdict from Courtroom View Network.

Starbucks said it plans to appeal the verdict.

“We sympathize with Mr. Garcia, but we disagree with the jury’s decision that we were at fault for this incident and believe the damages awarded to be excessive,” a company spokesperson said in a statement. “We have always been committed to the highest safety standards in our stores, including the handling of hot drinks.”

The lawsuit is reminiscent of a famous 1994 lawsuit against McDonald’s in which a woman spilled hot coffee on her lap and suffered third-degree burns. The plaintiff in that case, Stella Liebeck, was originally awarded nearly $3 million.


i'm sure he's not feeling distraught or humiliated anymore after that jury verdict got handed down.

that's it, i'm heading to starbucks and spilling some coffee on my crotch. my life will never be the same again! for $50 million i could live with a little bit of emotional distress, mental anguish, anxiety, and perhaps i'll even tell them that i got a disfigured dick too!
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How old is this guy, did he suffer third degree burns too, does his junk even still work? If that drink burned the head of his dick off the compensation seems ok.
 
Andy Capp said:
If you are suggesting this is a frivolous lawsuit, you need a kick in the nut sack to go with your useless dick.

You'd think they would have learned the lesson of that poor woman injured by McDonald's coffee. The issue in that case was they deliberately kept the coffee hotter than it needed to be. If it was shown during this trial that Starbucks did the same then fuckem with a sharp stick.

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You can fuck right off with that shit.
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Coffee has to be hot, about 200° when brewed, and should be consumed within about 30 minutes. I think the negligence here would be not securing the lid properly.
 
LangfordBarrow said:
Coffee has to be hot, about 200° when brewed, and should be consumed within about 30 minutes. I think the negligence here would be not securing the lid properly.
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Hence, "If it was shown that...." Also, when brewed is not the same as the temp it should be when served, to wit,
"Hot beverages are served ubiquitously in the food-service industry as well as at residences and other venues. Coffee and tea beverages, in particular, are brewed at temperatures that are sufficiently high to cause immediate and serious risk for scald injuries. On the other hand, numerous research studies have been performed to identify the preferred consumption temperatures for hot beverages. The outcome of these mutually reinforcing studies is that the preferred drinking temperatures are significantly below the often-encountered brewing temperatures (∼200 °F). Consequently, there is great need to distinguish brewing temperatures from serving temperatures. Serving consumers beverages at very high temperatures is not only unnecessary (from a preference standpoint) but also unsafe. An appropriate range for service temperatures is (130 to 160 °F)."

I agree that the lids not being secured is also an issue. The point is precedent has clearly established the responsibility of the company to proactively protect the safety of its customers in these situations.
 
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idrankyourbeer said:
are you drunk?

you really think he went through physical pain, mental anguish, loss of enjoyment of life, humiliation, inconvenience, grief, disfigurement, physical impairment, anxiety and emotional distress over a little bit of spilled coffee? or perhaps maybe he was just trying to cash in bigly off of an accident, like most sue-happy people would?

i'm sure his life will never be the same after that. he had to change his pants and then figure out what he was going to spend all of his newfound riches on. oh the humanity!

forget about the 50 million dollars. that kind of money will never make up for the utter humiliation and emotional distress he went through by spilling a drink on himself. i'm sure he still gets nightmares over that shit! should have gave him a hundred million dollars because fifty million ain't enough to make up for the damaged reputation. he will forever be known as the guy who was no longer able to enjoy living because he spilled some coffee on himself, and nothing short of a hundred bajillion dollars is ever going to fix that.
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Coffee is brewed at about the same temperature your engine runs. It's pretty silly to downplay this without knowing what degree burns he suffered.
 
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