Social War Room Lounge Thread #320 - Don't tell me what to do, you're not my dad. Wait, are you?

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Jack V Savage said:
I disagree with the first part just in that the country was much less religious then, and the founders particularly were very unreligious. But I was wondering if there was some specific story about Easter and the founding that I wasn't aware of.
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Nah. It IS the an important holiday for Christians and was likely the same then. But no story that I know of.
 
LMP said:
I'd argue Christmas is the most important Christian holiday. The coming of the messiah is what separates many religions. With out the coming of Jesus there could be no sacrifice for salvation according to Christian beliefs.
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Well, I said this in another thread. BOTH are the two biggest of the year and very celebrated. But for him to come and not provide a way of salvation for all then the birth would not be as significant. For Christians, the death and day he rose meant salvation was secured. Without that day, the rest would not have meant as much. Its a little splitting hairs as both are extremely important to Christianity and Christmas is the biggest holiday (presents, tradition etc), but ultimately not the most important imo.
 
Cajun said:
Well, I said this in another thread. BOTH are the two biggest of the year and very celebrated. But for him to come and not provide a way of salvation for all then the birth would not be as significant. For Christians, the death and day he rose meant salvation was secured. Without that day, the rest would not have meant as much. Its a little splitting hairs as both are extremely important to Christianity and Christmas is the biggest holiday (presents, tradition etc), but ultimately not the most important imo.
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One gets me a paid holiday the other doesn't. Christmas > Easter.
 
Sara said:
And if someone had made a post or thread about in the last 3 years I’m sure we’d have the same discussions going on.

And yes, just like if another day of recognition for anything develops on any high holiday, the high holiday of that religion that has been celebrated for centuries takes precedent over days of recognition that are less than a decade old.
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Why should it take precedence? Easter is for those that celebrate it. They don't get to claim the day and exclude everyone from celebrating something else. I think that's the whole point of American freedom.
 
Sara said:
So everyone is forced to celebrate and commemorate it then. Just admit like Jeffrey marsh says, they are going to make everyone have to agree with everything they want and say.

I mean I actually think it’d be best to not tweet about any holiday or day of recognition at all, just keep to politics and announcements, but that’ll never happen. Easter, Hanukkah, Ramadan, etc included due to the fact that everyone only acts like it’s a big deal when Christian’s complain, no one ever tells trans lgbtq+ muslims or Jews they’re complaining too much.
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But you aren't forced to celebrate it. You can just celebrate Easter. Trans day is for the trans to celebrate and I'll bet some are celebrating Easter too.
 
LMP said:
I'd argue Christmas is the most important Christian holiday. The coming of the messiah is what separates many religions. With out the coming of Jesus there could be no sacrifice for salvation according to Christian beliefs.
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Or maybe the not coming of Joseph is what separates it? {<shrug}
 
LangfordBarrow said:
Trans people go all in and get their junk surgically altered. Give them a damn day...
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no.


Wait I changed my mind they can have a day in June, July or August as I don’t think there are any religious holidays (of the abrahamic religions) that it would occasionally fall on.
 
Sara said:
I think more people are upset as the president should have known better snd is held to a higher standard. This is just another example of who ever handles the twitter (because I doubt he does) making a pretty big error in judgement and again because the error in judgment effected Cis Christian’s everyone is saying it was an over reaction, who cares he tweeted last year too (not on actual Easter though so it’s irrelevant)
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Has it even been established that account is linked to the WH?
 
Jack V Savage said:
Easter didn't become an important holiday in America until after the Civil War, though it existed as an idea before that.
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Cant speak to that but it is celebrated in many western countries and typically where it is there is a national holiday in place. Christianity itself was a staple in many early settlers lives but whether it was as celebrated nationally is unknown to me.
 
<WhatIsThis>some of the comments . . . yikes.

 
Cajun said:
Cant speak to that but it is celebrated in many western countries and typically where it is there is a national holiday in place. Christianity itself was a staple in many early settlers lives but whether it was as celebrated nationally is unknown to me.
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Yeah, Easter has become a bigger deal over the past couple hundred years. Some early settlers were very religious, but the colonies were very unreligious by modern standards for a while. There were some fad periods, but the period of the founding was not one of them (though one followed shortly after). Less than one out of five Americans identified with a religion at the time of the founding and most of the founders were deists.
 
Jack V Savage said:
Yeah, Easter has become a bigger deal over the past couple hundred years. Some early settlers were very religious, but the colonies were very unreligious by modern standards for a while. There were some fad periods, but the period of the founding was not one of them (though one followed shortly after). Less than one out of five Americans identified with a religion at the time of the founding and most of the founders were deists.
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I cannot speak to the early households at that time nor have I read. Obv they had the first great awakening in the 1700s, the second and third in the 1800s. But from the pilgrims to puritans they held onto Christianity imo. Of the founding fathers, it may have been mixed bag.
 
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