War Room Longue V. 73: Royal Rumble

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Thanks, that confused the hell out of me. I really thought it was just a statement left completely open to interpretation.

That's why I find those threads funny. Like mick posting Richard Spencer and going "iS tHiS NoT nAtUrAl EnOuGh". Much like AAVE, there's rules to this that most people just don't understand. It just so happens that the people with the most vehement opinions tend to be the ones who have no insight into the rules.
 
That's why I find those threads funny. Like mick posting Richard Spencer and going "iS tHiS NoT nAtUrAl EnOuGh".
Holy crap, yeah that one missed every possible point. Triggered because of implied discussion of racism though. He's shown that's where he's at, that anything smelling at all like race-related social justice is automatically invalid.
 
My fantasy football sleeper of the week is...

The Tampa Bay Buccaneers Defense

McCaffrey, Barkley, Gurley, all ran against Tampa, and all failed. Kamara will be next.

Oh Drew Brees is gone too? Hi Teddy Bridgewater, meet the Sack Ferret.

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In 4 weeks of football, the Bucs D has provided 12, 12, 8, and 15 points, and I don't see that changing this week.
 
I can't believe liberals are willing to take the unprecedented step of removing the president just to protect Hunter Biden...

Lame: Refusing to indulge the Republicans' assault on the rule of law and political norms, acknowledging that there was no corruption by Biden or his son, and continuing to handle this like a normal political scandal.

Lit: Executing Hunter Biden on live television just to send the nation the message that we don't care about him and we're fucking serious.
 
I'll put up $200 to your $100, double the amount that says otherwise. We both send to @HockeyBjj who pays it out to the winner. What's your answer turd?

Just in case this is halfway serious, I want no part in handling someone else's money

Especially not as an impromptu bookie for a karate forum's dungeons and dragons with athletes
 
Just in case this is halfway serious, I want no part in handling someone else's money

Especially not as an impromptu bookie for a karate forum's dungeons and dragons with athletes

So you're in?
 
Moved to the lounge to keep from derailing further. See the end for the original thread.
naw, you can go fuck yourself. The science is young and not close to settled. This isn't the science on evolution. They are still in the midst of learning about this and admit it. YOu have a different opinion, great. I have mine. And the science will eventually settle and this body of knowledge will become fact. It is not there yes.

You're triggered over something that was said once and chasing it pages later. You can do so on you own.

There is a ton of variance in the various reports and a ton of new emerging science moving the goal posts often. You don't get to claim an unassailable opinion.

Funny how you keep making comments about my opinion. I made no claim about the scientific validity of my opinion. Funny how you have shifted over the course of this exchange from near certainty, to broad estimate, to the science is not close to settled. The issue is you passing off opinion as scientific fact, isn't it?

It's annoying because it's exactly the same tactic employed by all the other trolls around here. Someone posts a bullshit claim as though it were a fact, fails to back it up, and then in the face of contradictory evidence, pretends they made a different claim, or as you're doing now saying, oh well it's your problem if you care that I made a bullshit comment I can't defend.

Now, thanks to your idiotic stubbornness, I need to rub your nose in it because you think your shit don't stink.

First you said this,
i... recognize that genetics plays the far bigger role in long term health as opposed to food choices....
Diet impacts 'quality of life' more so than 'length' which it does impact but typically only marginally unless you get into pretty abusive diets and obesity.

1. What about the way this is written suggests it is only your lay opinion as opposed to established science?

In my first reply to you I explicitly said you're welcome to your opinion and offered my own. You in turn doubled down, to wit,
Does diet play a role. Absolutely. But not a bigger role than genetics. Diet plays a much bigger role in the QUALITY of that life but not necessarily the length outside extremes.

1a. What about the way this is written suggests it is only your lay opinion as opposed to established science?

So, quite reasonably, I think, I said, "That may be what you have seen, but what I have seen contradicts it. How about seeing if you can produce some actual data to support that?"

You start off by claiming you don't understand the question and follow it with anecdotal evidence of no scientific validity. So, I tried to give you another chance to distinguish between your opinion and what the science says,
But what I am referring to is that you made a claim, genetics plays the dominant role in life span over diet (presumably such that anything but an extreme diet is insignificant). I have anecdotal data just like you do that contradicts you. So, how about empirical data? Got any?

You reply with more anecdotes and invite me to establish your claim for you. Anyone can see your fuckery here,
Do you know what the main causes of death are amongst men and women and do I really need to show you the link between those diseases and genetics?

I am not trying to be difficult here but you seem to be asking very obvious questions. Google the main causes of death and look how many of them are strongly genetic correlated.

But you were indeed trying very hard to be difficult, weren't you? Because I gave you another chance to admit you were putting forward opinion as established scientific fact and you dodged it again.

I said, "...let's see the empirical data to support that if you have any. If you don't, just say so. No shame in it. It's not a simple topic and my questions are not simple at all. You made a scientific claim and around here it's standard practice to back that with empirical evidence. One should no more take your word for this based on anecdotal evidence than to accept as fact non-binary gender based only on my cousin Nancy who was getting into fistfights with boys from the age of 6 (disclaimer, totally made up, doesn't exist)."

And your reply was,
I am not going to defend you pretending I took a far more absolute and extreme position than i did. I cited many times there is conflating info on this. I don't have a hard line. I've just read that the importance of genetics (not having a huge cancer, high blood pressure, etc, risk in family) is more important over all than diet.

See #1 and #1a, and then tell me again where in there you indicated you "don't have a hard line"? And I gave you yet another opportunity to walk back your arrogance,
The fact is you could have saved us both a lot of time and trouble by simply admitting that from the get go, say by replying to me with something like, "OK, maybe not FAR BIGGER". And that would have been the end of it.

Instead, you resort to misstatement of my point with,
"That is not the only scientific opinion one can find suggesting that. Cry more that others have different views, including people who study this for a living."
{Seriously, what the fuck kind of delusion is this?}

Who was talking about different views? Who is disputing what scientists say? I'm disputing what you claimed,
You're not espousing a different view. You made a scientific claim for which I requested supporting evidence (knowing you had no such thing), you posted something that contradicts that claim, then moved the goalpost to try to avoid admitting your error. We've just exchanged posts over several pages simply because you can't admit a mistake. Cry about that.

Again, "You made the declarative statement that genetics were FAR MORE significant than diet. You said that. There is no missing context nor misrepresentation of your intent to be found. You were given the opportunity to admit that might be an exaggeration in the absence of empirical data to support it and you chose instead to condescend and avoid the question repeatedly."

You have the same inability to admit an error as every other Dunning-Kruger case study on this site. May you join them in the bit bucket.
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Edit: for reference: https://forums.sherdog.com/posts/155492485/
 
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That Gaped Crusader idiot posted porn.

Ah'. I don't think he cared too much to begin with. I think he's been on dub-dubs since day 1. Just another banned guy coming back to fuck around.
 
Moved to the lounge to keep from derailing further.


Funny how you keep making comments about my opinion. I made no claim about the scientific validity of my opinion. Funny how you have shifted over the course of this exchange from near certainty, to broad estimate, to the science is not close to settled. The issue is you passing off opinion as scientific fact, isn't it?

It's annoying because it's exactly the same tactic employed by all the other trolls around here. Someone posts a bullshit claim as though it were a fact, fails to back it up, and then in the face of contradictory evidence, pretends they made a different claim, or as you're doing now saying, oh well it's your problem if you care that I made a bullshit comment I can't defend.

Now, thanks to your idiotic stubbornness, I need to rub your nose in it because you think your shit don't stink.

First you said this,


1. What about the way this is written suggests it is only your lay opinion as opposed to established science?

In my first reply to you I explicitly said you're welcome to your opinion and offered my own. You in turn doubled down, to wit,


1a. What about the way this is written suggests it is only your lay opinion as opposed to established science?

So, quite reasonably, I think, I said, "That may be what you have seen, but what I have seen contradicts it. How about seeing if you can produce some actual data to support that?"

You start off by claiming you don't understand the question and follow it with anecdotal evidence of no scientific validity. So, I tried to give you another chance to distinguish between your opinion and what the science says,


You reply with more anecdotes and invite me to establish your claim for you. Anyone can see your fuckery here,


But you were indeed trying very hard to be difficult, weren't you? Because I gave you another chance to admit you were putting forward opinion as established scientific fact and you dodged it again.

I said, "...let's see the empirical data to support that if you have any. If you don't, just say so. No shame in it. It's not a simple topic and my questions are not simple at all. You made a scientific claim and around here it's standard practice to back that with empirical evidence. One should no more take your word for this based on anecdotal evidence than to accept as fact non-binary gender based only on my cousin Nancy who was getting into fistfights with boys from the age of 6 (disclaimer, totally made up, doesn't exist)."

And your reply was,


See #1 and #1a, and then tell me again where in there you indicated you "don't have a hard line"? And I gave you yet another opportunity to walk back your arrogance,


Instead, you resort to misstatement of my point with,
"That is not the only scientific opinion one can find suggesting that. Cry more that others have different views, including people who study this for a living."
{Seriously, what the fuck kind of delusion is this?}

Who was talking about different views? Who is disputing what scientists say? I'm disputing what you claimed,


Again, "You made the declarative statement that genetics were FAR MORE significant than diet. You said that. There is no missing context nor misrepresentation of your intent to be found. You were given the opportunity to admit that might be an exaggeration in the absence of empirical data to support it and you chose instead to condescend and avoid the question repeatedly."

You have the same inability to admit an error as every other Dunning-Kruger case study on this site. May you join them in the bit bucket.
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please post a link to the thread in question. this sounds like an interesting convo
 
Ah'. I don't think he cared too much to begin with. I think he's been on dub-dubs since day 1. Just another banned guy coming back to fuck around.

I don't even remember his Final Rehab account, but he's worn out his welcome for some time as well with his second porn suicide.
 
@Hognoxious asked a very fair question. These choleric responses of yours aren't warranted.

He's on my ignore list, but we're talking about a multiple-time banned troll. I don't think anyone would miss him, and I can see why a mod would consider him to be on thin ice.
 
I don't even remember his Final Rehab account, but he's worn out his welcome for some time as well with his second porn suicide.

He was a good poster as FR, but, yeah, that's unfortunate.
 
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