War Lounge Room v91: work pwnt will maintain later

[Fawlty]

They all have similar “styles” and it’s pretty crazy how this particular brash bully persona has become something anyone would vote for.

"It will be as exciting as the 1930s!"

 

[Trotsky]

Well it’s a joke couched in reality because I live in a highly Filipino area so all the news is Duterte.

But if you really think Bolsonaro is that bad I’ll look into it.

They all have similar “styles” and it’s pretty crazy how this particular brash bully persona has become something anyone would vote for.

Duterte is a true populist that champions initiatives and perspectives that are supported and held by ordinary people, while Bolsonaro is a true fascist that seeks to fragment society, scapegoat marginalized peoples, loot the economy for private interests, and install autocratic minority rule.

Personally, I think Duterte is a level below guys like Bolso, Trump, Erdogan, MBS, and Jong Un in terms of flawed leaders. Although that famous rape comment was maybe the most disgusting thing I've ever heard a politician say.

 

[PolishHeadlock2]

My sister got a job with benefits so now we can work on getting her a place of her own.

 

[Trotsky]

My sister got a job with benefits so now we can work on getting her a place of her own.

But then where will the retard stay?

 

[Jesus H. Sherdog]

Duterte is a true populist that champions initiatives and perspectives that are supported and held by ordinary people, while Bolsonaro is a true fascist that seeks to fragment society, scapegoat marginalized peoples, loot the economy for private interests, and install autocratic minority rule.

Personally, I think Duterte is a level below guys like Bolso, Trump, Erdogan, MBS, and Jong Un in terms of flawed leaders. Although that famous rape comment was maybe the most disgusting thing I've ever heard a politician say.

Oh. Now I think it’s you who are the misinformed one.

You don’t think Duterte checks all those boxes? He does. He absolutely seeks to fragment society, scapegoats marginalized peoples (he encourages death squads and brags about murders!), and loots the economy in order to install an autocracy. He kills and jails journalists, academics, lawyers and anyone who opposes him.

He’s worse than Trump by factors for sure, and as an aside I’d say all of those guys are behind Kim Jong Un.

https://time.com/4353279/duterte-philippines-journalists-assassination/

 

[Mendacious]

Oh. Now I think it’s you who are the misinformed one.

You don’t think Duterte checks all those boxes? He does. He absolutely seeks to fragment society, scapegoats marginalized peoples (he encourages death squads and brags about murders!), and loots the economy in order to install an autocracy. He kills and jails journalists, academics, lawyers and anyone who opposes him.

He’s worse than Trump by factors for sure, and as an aside I’d say all of those guys are behind Kim Jong Un.

https://time.com/4353279/duterte-philippines-journalists-assassination/

In all fairness, drug addicts aren’t people

 

[spin]

Blue-blood shmoo-blood.

It's a religious obligation to knock up your dead brother's widow.

Genesis 38:8-10.

Ugh.

Must we bring that terrible book into this?

 

[Islam Imamate]

Hmm, a Lord Coke post that has to do with Asians? Probably trash identity politics so I think I'll pass.

 

[Islam Imamate]

Blue-blood shmoo-blood.

It's a religious obligation to knock up your dead brother's widow.

Genesis 38:8-10.

 

[PolishHeadlock2]

I just saw a commercial for Golden Girl Chia Pets.

Daytime TV hasn't changed much

 

[HockeyBjj]

I don't know why this surprised me, but apparently pet insurance exists

My sister had been paying 30 bucks a month for it. Has a 250 deductible. Her dog tore tore it's acl (or whatever that doggy equivalent is, that's how vet described it after the doggie mri) so instead of just putting the dog down, they're actually doing surgery

30 a month, 250 bucks for mri and acl surgery. Can I self identify as a dog to get on this plan?

 

[Trotsky]

Oh. Now I think it’s you who are the misinformed one.

You don’t think Duterte checks all those boxes? He does. He absolutely seeks to fragment society, scapegoats marginalized peoples (he encourages death squads and brags about murders!), and loots the economy in order to install an autocracy. He kills and jails journalists, academics, lawyers and anyone who opposes him.

He’s worse than Trump by factors for sure, and as an aside I’d say all of those guys are behind Kim Jong Un.

In comparing leaders, I think we have to be dialectical in considering their countries, their paths to power, and their intentions. If we are not, then every leader of a stable democracy is going to be better than every leader of an unstable state. In more objective terms, I think we can consider competence, good faith, efficacy, and democratic charter. Duterte's drug war had that democratic charter: it was known from the outset to be an oppressive and largely extralegal campaign, but it was supported nevertheless as an alternative to grave existing conditions. There is no such democratic charter or grave existing conditions to excuse Trump's policies and there is, likewise, no good faith excuse for most of them. That is, while you can argue that Duterte's attacks on the press and on the criminal underclass were good faith attempts to stabilize Filipino society and ensure safety for his base, there is very little justification for arguing that Bolsonaro and Trump's wildly regressive policies and institution of corruption is in good faith.

With MBS, it seems that all his policies are directed toward consolidation of power, but there have been meager collateral benefits to the people. For Erdogan, there is much of the same and, although he is clearly incompetent, he does enjoy a strong democratic charter. In terms of Jong Un, he has at minimum shown to be a basically competent political leader and he has improved quality of life in North Korea since taking over from his father. Of course, he's a legitimate hereditary monarch, but any person to take that office was going to be.

 

[Trotsky]

I don't know why this surprised me, but apparently pet insurance exists

My sister had been paying 30 bucks a month for it. Has a 250 deductible. Her dog tore tore it's acl (or whatever that doggy equivalent is, that's how vet described it after the doggie mri) so instead of just putting the dog down, they're actually doing surgery

30 a month, 250 bucks for mri and acl surgery. Can I self identify as a dog to get on this plan?

If I had a dog, I would get pet insurance too.

Dogs tear ligaments a lot it seems. And they get a lot of cancer.

 

[Deleted member 539235]

so instead of just putting the dog down, they're actually doing surgery

how would putting the dog to sleep for a knee injury even be a consideration unless it was already on it's way out?

 

[HockeyBjj]

Dogs tear ligaments a lot it seems. And they get a lot of cancer.

Yeah, if those end of life things are covered pet insurance would be a huge deal. I one dog we lost to his kidney shutting down, but the other two were cancer diagnosed. We weren't paying to take them in for screenings to catch before the dog showed symptoms and the cancer was too far along to do anything but give them an easier passing. But damn it would have been nice to have an extra 2 or 3 years with them.

Of course, it's hard as hell, but a person still needs to know when to let their 4 legged pal go. A dog won't understand the suffering its going through with chemo if it isn't a quick and effective temporary treatment. That would be my only concern with this.

 

[HockeyBjj]

how would putting the dog to sleep for a knee injury even be a consideration unless it was already on it's way out?

8 year old dog, good health otherwise but now unable to stand. 10k bill for a pet isn't doable for many people

 

[all caps]

how would putting the dog to sleep for a knee injury even be a consideration unless it was already on it's way out?

Moloch requires blood

 

[PolishHeadlock2]

8 year old dog, good health otherwise but now unable to stand. 10k bill for a pet isn't doable for many people

I used to date a vet.

She told me about 1 family that spent $80k on their dog and it still died.

Apparently if you have to spend $80k on your sick pet it's probably dying anyway.

And she said they weren't rich people.

 

[HockeyBjj]

I used to date a vet.

She told me about 1 family that spent $80k on their dog and it still died.

Apparently if you have to spend $80k on your sick pet it's probably dying anyway.

And she said they weren't rich people.

Man that's sad. Emotions vs logic is a hell of a mental tug of war

 

[Trotsky]