Media Walt Harris calls out Derrick Lewis

[TriangleMonkey]

Walt brought a box of Church’s chicken to practice as a pre-training meal and he shows the part.


Beast blasts this dude to Bolivia and back

 

[ExitLUPin]

Walt Harris is a prime example of how bad the UFC HW division has been. Dude has been in the UFC for 10 years and achieved literally nothing lol. How is he still on the roster?

The funniest part is he could absolutely beat Derrick whos been ranked top 3 @ HW in this era and got title shots. My money would be on Walt lmao.

Well he KO'd Alexey Oleynik in 12 seconds. Also, I think he's getting a bit of a leeway because of what happened to his step daughter, which is perfectly understandable.

He KOd Spivak in under a minute whos ranked no. 7 right now too. By far his best win.

 

[Safton]

Again, it's more nonsense lol. If he was 6-4 in his current run, he was 0-5 in his previous run which was only separated by 1 fight outside the UFC. What happened with his daughter should have no bearing on if he stays in now he's been finished twice since then and looked terrible in the process. Also lmaoo and the Jon comment. Take away the one NC which is the only actually fight he popped in, and Jon's resume is still the top 3 of all time.

0-5? What are you talking about? He was 0-2, got cut, picked up a win at Titan, came back and has been with the UFC ever since. Since you seemed to have trouble with the Bones analogy: my point was that if popping for something invalidates a fighter's winning streak, then Jon's resume is in trouble considering he has popped multiple times and his entire resume is one long winning streak.

I couldn't care less whether you think what happened with his daughter should have any bearing on if he stays, but it's adorable that you think you have a say in the matter. In the world we live in, Dana White got himself and the company heavily invested with the kidnapping and subsequent murder by donating money and promising to support Walt and his family. It made national news. In the eyes of the company, it would have been a bad move to immediately cut the dead weight that was Walt Harris soon after he got KO'd three times in the wake of all that -- especially at a time when they need good PR. Letting him fight out his current contract before simply not re-signing him is a much cleaner way of doing things for them. It's not like they're giving him a charity title shot ffs, it's literally them doing something they already routinely do with all the guys they already intend to get rid of already and have done countless times before.

Even if you give Walt that late career Arvlowski win, he still is worse than a lot of HW's

Nobody is saying Walt Harris is a Top 10 fighter lmao. But the sad truth of it is that he still has a better resume than a lot of guys who make the walk for the UFC what seems like every other weekend: Parker Porter, Chase Sherman, Justin Tafa, Josh Parisian, Don'Tale Mayes, Chris Barnett, etc. I would love to see the UFC trim the proverbial fat and get rid of all its middling journeyman and just have nothing but elite killers running around, but that's not a practical expectation of them. Especially at Heavyweight.

 

[TempleoftheDog]

Walt Harris is still fighting? Thought he quietly retired

I actually did too. Just the win over Aleksei since that tragedy in 2019. 3 losses and by IFW it’ll be about 25 months since his last fight.

Edit. The Aleksei fight was before the tragedy. Just the 3 losses since.

 

[Sticko]

I actually did too. Just the win over Aleksei since that tragedy in 2019. 3 losses and by IFW it’ll be about 25 months since his last fight.

Edit. The Aleksei fight was before the tragedy. Just the 3 losses since.

The win over Oleynik happened before his stepdaughter's murder. They made a really big deal out of it during his return fight with Overeem which got pretty sad and awkward when Overeem flattened out Harris and finished him with ground strikes.

IIRC Harris had Overeem in a lot of trouble in the first but he tends to fade as fights go long and he can be outgrappled.

 

[SaigeVanZant]

Rather see Black Beast vs. Beast Boy

 

[Chillez]

Go home Big Ticket.

When I hear the nickname "Big Ticket" I think of Kevin Garnett lol

 

[Bobby Boulders]

Down for that. That's a banger, someone going night night.

 

[Willy Knuckles]

0-5? What are you talking about? He was 0-2, got cut, picked up a win at Titan, came back and has been with the UFC ever since. Since you seemed to have trouble with the Bones analogy: my point was that if popping for something invalidates a fighter's winning streak, then Jon's resume is in trouble considering he has popped multiple times and his entire resume is one long winning streak.

I couldn't care less whether you think what happened with his daughter should have any bearing on if he stays, but it's adorable that you think you have a say in the matter. In the world we live in, Dana White got himself and the company heavily invested with the kidnapping and subsequent murder by donating money and promising to support Walt and his family. It would made national news. In the eyes of the company, it would have been a bad move to immediately cut the dead weight that was Walt Harris soon after he got KO'd three times in the wake of all that -- especially at a time when they need good PR. Letting him fight out his current contract before simply not re-signing him is a much cleaner way of doing things for them. It's not like they're giving him a charity title shot ffs, it's literally them doing something they already do with all the guys they already intend to get rid of already and have done countless times before.



Nobody is saying Walt Harris is a Top 15 fighter lmao. But the sad truth of it is that he still has a better resume than a lot of guys who make the walk for the UFC what seems like every other weekend: Parker Porter, Chase Sherman, Justin Tafa, Josh Parisian, Don'Tale Mayes, Chris Barnett, etc. I would love to see the UFC trim the proverbial fat and get rid of all its middling journeyman and just have nothing but elite killers running around, but that's not a practical expectation of them. Especially at Heavyweight.

He's 6-9 in the ufc. I know math is hard,but if he's 6-4 in one UFC run, he is winless during any other stint in the UFC. I'm just going off what you're saying bro lol. I thought he's 6-9 would be enough to convince someone that he probably shouldn't be here and is a reflection of how bad HW is

 

[Safton]

He's 6-9 in the ufc. I know math is hard,but if he's 6-4 in one UFC run, he is winless during any other stint in the UFC. I'm just going off what you're saying bro lol. I thought he's 6-9 would be enough to convince someone that he probably shouldn't be here and is a reflection of how bad HW is

I said his current run, prior to the skid, i.e. almost certainly what the UFC was taking into account.

Nobody said Heavyweight is UFC's prestige division. Most people agree that it's absolute shit outside of like the Top 5 or 6 guys at best. But my point is that the sad truth is that his resume is still better than a lot of the active Heavyweights the UFC uses to fill its undercards (and even Main Cards on occasion) and your original question was "why is he still on the roster"? I explained what the UFC's likely reasoning was between the PR aspect, letting fighters finish out contracts a lot of the time, and his decently long tenure with the promotion. Like it or not, these things often factor into business decisions regardless of whether people like you and I agree with Athlete X or Y being there. You heard all this and just got pissy for some reason though.

 

[StewDogg11]

Lewis/Rozenstruik is the fight to make, they will both bang

He’s fighting Almeida.

 

[asdf122345]

Current lewis loses to harris in my opinion...

 

[Willy Knuckles]

I said his current run, prior to the skid, i.e. almost certainly what the UFC was taking into account.

Nobody said Heavyweight is UFC's prestige division. Most people agree that it's absolute shit outside of like the Top 5 or 6 guys at best. But my point is that the sad truth is that his resume is still better than a lot of the active Heavyweights the UFC uses to fill its undercards (and even Main Cards on occasion) and your original question was "why is he still on the roster"? I explained what the UFC's likely reasoning was between the PR aspect, letting fighters finish out contracts a lot of the time, and his decently long tenure with the promotion. Like it or not, these things often factor into business decisions regardless of whether people like you and I agree with Athlete X or Y being there. You heard all this and just got pissy for some reason though.

He's not 6-4 on his current run though lol wtf are you saying? Since returning to the UFC he's 6-7. My original post was saying his a prime EXAMPLE of how bad the division is. Meaning there are more fighters that are also shit because they are obviously part of said weight class. Also, he's been on the roster for 10 years lol, I was more eluding to how tf did he fight here for 10 years and achieve nothing?

 

[Mangar]

Would watch, sadly better than most headline fights these days.

 

[SJP_SevenLaker]

I'll pass. Harris is looking for some low hanging fruit.

 

[Simple Southerner]

DL would pick Harris apart

 

[Jonesisnatural]

This sounds like fantastic one round action
Somebody is dying
I'd like to see both get easier fights though so they can rebuild
Maybe give chase Sherman to walt and parker porter to derrick or vice versa
Or that guy who was a mw and got so fat he's a hw

 

[Kyojiro Kagenuma]

Again, it's more nonsense lol. If he was 6-4 in his current run, he was 0-5 in his previous run which was only separated by 1 fight outside the UFC. What happened with his daughter should have no bearing on if he stays in now he's been finished twice since then and looked terrible in the process. Also lmaoo and the Jon comment. Take away the one NC which is the only actually fight he popped in, and Jon's resume is still the top 3 of all time. Even if you give Walt that late career Arvlowski win, he still is worse than a lot of HW's

Could you like just not be a dick for two seconds? That'd be nice.

 

[Safton]

He's not 6-4 on his current run though lol wtf are you saying? Since returning to the UFC he's 6-7. My original post was saying his a prime EXAMPLE of how bad the division is. Meaning there are more fighters that are also shit because they are obviously part of said weight class. Also, he's been on the roster for 10 years lol, I was more eluding to how tf did he fight here for 10 years and achieve nothing?

Now you're just going out of your way to be deliberately obtuse and misquote me by ignoring very relevant parts of what I said. Here:

I said his current run, prior to the skid, i.e. almost certainly what the UFC was taking into account.

Not a good look, champ. No one disagrees that Heavyweight is a bad division; literally every time the subject comes up of ranking the divisions Heavyweight and/or Light Heavy are usually down in the pits of despair and rightfully so. But you also said this:

How is he still on the roster?

Which I answered by addressing the likely motivations behind the UFC's brass to hold onto him, which are/were grounded in business, PR, previous precedent, and the fact that as limited of a fighter as he is overall... he still arguably has a better resume than a lot of dudes the UFC still loves to roll out on a regular basis. We just had a Co-Main event of Augusto Sakai vs. Don'Tale Mayes (yes, I know the original Co-Main got bumped up). UFC 284 had Justin Tafa and Parker fucking Porter on the Main Card. Compared to a lot those guys, Walt Harris has actually achieved slightly more by beating the likes of Oleinik and Spivak. He actually made it into the Top 10 at one point.

 

[Willy Knuckles]

Now you're just going out of your way to be deliberately obtuse and misquote me by ignoring very relevant parts of what I said. Here:



Not a good look, champ. No one disagrees that Heavyweight is a bad division; literally every time the subject comes up of ranking the divisions Heavyweight and/or Light Heavy are usually down in the pits of despair and rightfully so. But you also said this:



Which I answered by addressing the likely motivations behind the UFC's brass to hold onto him, which are/were grounded in business, PR, previous precedent, and the fact that as limited of a fighter as he is overall... he still arguably has a better resume than a lot of dudes the UFC still loves to roll out on a regular basis. We just had a Co-Main event of Augusto Sakai vs. Don'Tale Mayes (yes, I know the original Co-Main got bumped up). UFC 284 had Justin Tafa and Parker fucking Porter on the Main Card. Compared to a lot those guys, Walt Harris has actually achieved slightly more by beating the likes of Oleinik and Spivak. He actually made it into the Top 10 at one point.

You're providing no context to those wins. Spivak was much worse at that point then he is now and Oleinik is ancient my dude. The whole point of my post was to highlight that Walt Harris is a prime example of the HW division being trash. He wouldn't be here in any other weight class most likely. You saying there's worse HW's doesn't change my original post at all