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HockeyBjj said:
Oh please. On Sunday I got together with a couple friends and played that game with us drinking Coronas. Probably last social thing I'll do in a while


@RerouteToRemain any place selling non gouged .223 that isn't steel? I've got 300 rounds, but wish I would have made a run last week. Illinois resident, so FOID card issues for shipping but I should be able to figure it out.
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Try basspro.com its saying later March delivery.
There's stuff like this.
https://www.targetsportsusa.com/prvi-partizan-match-223-remington-ammo-69-gr-hpbt-pp57-p-63.aspx
 
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Moments like these are when I'm glad I will just routinely buy ammo at random times of the year. So I have like 3k in .223/5.56 and about 1k in 9mm ball and another near 100 in .45 ACP.
 
Probs 300/300 9mm and 223. 100 7mm rem mag. Maybe a hundred shotgun shells of varying size, 30 slugs, 1k 22

and a bow with 12 arrows if we’ve gone far past the shit hitting the fan stage and I’m still alive
 
HockeyBjj said:
Probs 300/300 9mm and 223. 100 7mm rem mag. Maybe a hundred shotgun shells of varying size, 30 slugs, 1k 22

and a bow with 12 arrows if we’ve gone far past the shit hitting the fan stage and I’m still alive
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I just purchased my first compound bow last week...not because of all of this. I just fkn wanted one. Nothing outrageous...im a gun person. Just wanted something different.
 
Grrrr said:
I just purchased my first compound bow last week...not because of all of this. I just fkn wanted one. Nothing outrageous...im a gun person. Just wanted something different.
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Archery hunting feels so much more rewarding than gun hunting for white tails
 
So my store just got into a pissing match with Advanced Armament Corp.
I decided to cease all sales of AAC brand suppressors and ship them back to the company for reimbursement, and AAC wants to claim foul practice. When asked about why i was doing it, i stated that i cannot in good faith sell a suppressor to my customers KNOWING that AAC was not at any point going to provide me, or my customers with necessary hardware to keep them running. AAC has been back ordered for YEARS on various items such as extra pistons, barrel spacers, and adapters. Its gotten so bad that there are companies out there making their own hardware specifically to allow AAC can users the ability to use their products.

Who wants to wait almost a year to get their damn tax stamp for a 900 dollar can only to find out you cant put it on a different caliber pistol because they dont make pistons for it any more, or you cant utilize a 3-lug adapter because AAC hasnt sold one for their existing product line in almost 3 years? When i attempt to contact the company as a customer, i basically just talk to some office temp without a clue. but when i reach out as a dealer, they try to give me promises and run around.
 
Roaming East said:
So my store just got into a pissing match with Advanced Armament Corp.
I decided to cease all sales of AAC brand suppressors and ship them back to the company for reimbursement, and AAC wants to claim foul practice. When asked about why i was doing it, i stated that i cannot in good faith sell a suppressor to my customers KNOWING that AAC was not at any point going to provide me, or my customers with necessary hardware to keep them running. AAC has been back ordered for YEARS on various items such as extra pistons, barrel spacers, and adapters. Its gotten so bad that there are companies out there making their own hardware specifically to allow AAC can users the ability to use their products.

Who wants to wait almost a year to get their damn tax stamp for a 900 dollar can only to find out you cant put it on a different caliber pistol because they dont make pistons for it any more, or you cant utilize a 3-lug adapter because AAC hasnt sold one for their existing product line in almost 3 years? When i attempt to contact the company as a customer, i basically just talk to some office temp without a clue. but when i reach out as a dealer, they try to give me promises and run around.
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Sounds ethical on your part.
 
Roaming East said:
So my store just got into a pissing match with Advanced Armament Corp.
I decided to cease all sales of AAC brand suppressors and ship them back to the company for reimbursement, and AAC wants to claim foul practice. When asked about why i was doing it, i stated that i cannot in good faith sell a suppressor to my customers KNOWING that AAC was not at any point going to provide me, or my customers with necessary hardware to keep them running. AAC has been back ordered for YEARS on various items such as extra pistons, barrel spacers, and adapters. Its gotten so bad that there are companies out there making their own hardware specifically to allow AAC can users the ability to use their products.

Who wants to wait almost a year to get their damn tax stamp for a 900 dollar can only to find out you cant put it on a different caliber pistol because they dont make pistons for it any more, or you cant utilize a 3-lug adapter because AAC hasnt sold one for their existing product line in almost 3 years? When i attempt to contact the company as a customer, i basically just talk to some office temp without a clue. but when i reach out as a dealer, they try to give me promises and run around.
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Yeah that's pretty unacceptable on AAC's part.
Good for you guys looking out for your customers. Their stuff is pretty outdated at this point anyway tbh.

How are your guys sales the past week?
 
RerouteToRemain said:
Yeah that's pretty unacceptable on AAC's part.
Good for you guys looking out for your customers. Their stuff is pretty outdated at this point anyway tbh.

How are your guys sales the past week?
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I’m fucking exhausted. We are doing triple our normal business, running out of stock and trying to handle it all before something dumb like a curfew ruins business
 
Roaming East said:
I’m fucking exhausted. We are doing triple our normal business, running out of stock and trying to handle it all before something dumb like a curfew ruins business
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well let me elaborate a bit.

Coming in from two weeks' ago, most gun dealers are dealing with the expected downturn in sales following the end of tax season. That means (for dealers and distributors) that sales decrease on big expensive items, while maintaining fluid stocks on popular easy to sell stock. Nobody wants to be caught with a bunch of $4000 dollar guns when the spring and summer roll in and buying halts to a crawl. So prices were actually pretty good if you were a dealer.
Then a week ago everyone lost their goddamn mind and started panic buying EVERYTHING. This caught me at least completely by surprise because i was shifting away from completed items and transitioning to parts (we mostly do custom AR builds as our bread and butter). Now im scrambling around trying to basically buy any firearm i can while literally every other dealer is too. Prices from our end have jumped up like crazy for stuff not already in the allocation pool.

Now we have shipping delays because of business actions to mitigate COVID stuff, lets just say that my dealers are hawking green tip 5.56 at about .60/rnd. that is like double the regular price. factor in shipping and its literally selling at a buck a round.

the last issue is the sudden influx in NEW gun buyers. These are folks who have never even considered buying a gun, now flooding into gun shops, and boy do they eat up time. You gotta have staff stand around and explain guns to them and with the crush of people in the stores, it makes selling hard because instead of keeping a constant rotation of paperwork, product, register cycling going, you have half your staff being sidetracked for 20-30 minutes EACH to explain the various pro's and cons of a Glock vs an MP shield, or how an AR-15 pistol is a legal item, etc.
 
Roaming East said:
well let me elaborate a bit.

Coming in from two weeks' ago, most gun dealers are dealing with the expected downturn in sales following the end of tax season. That means (for dealers and distributors) that sales decrease on big expensive items, while maintaining fluid stocks on popular easy to sell stock. Nobody wants to be caught with a bunch of $4000 dollar guns when the spring and summer roll in and buying halts to a crawl. So prices were actually pretty good if you were a dealer.
Then a week ago everyone lost their goddamn mind and started panic buying EVERYTHING. This caught me at least completely by surprise because i was shifting away from completed items and transitioning to parts (we mostly do custom AR builds as our bread and butter). Now im scrambling around trying to basically buy any firearm i can while literally every other dealer is too. Prices from our end have jumped up like crazy for stuff not already in the allocation pool.

Now we have shipping delays because of business actions to mitigate COVID stuff, lets just say that my dealers are hawking green tip 5.56 at about .60/rnd. that is like double the regular price. factor in shipping and its literally selling at a buck a round.

the last issue is the sudden influx in NEW gun buyers. These are folks who have never even considered buying a gun, now flooding into gun shops, and boy do they eat up time. You gotta have staff stand around and explain guns to them and with the crush of people in the stores, it makes selling hard because instead of keeping a constant rotation of paperwork, product, register cycling going, you have half your staff being sidetracked for 20-30 minutes EACH to explain the various pro's and cons of a Glock vs an MP shield, or how an AR-15 pistol is a legal item, etc.
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I can imagine.

Was going to follow it up with how many new buyers were there.

Omaha outdoors posted a story saying they have gotten hundreds of calls from first time buyers shocked that they can't buy a gun online shipped to their door. They had no idea about shipping to an ffl and then background checks. Gun stores in CA say lots if presumably previous anti gun people upset at ammo shipping restrictions to states, ammo background checks, 10 days waiting periods, etc.

I forgot what large online store it was but they were selling like a million rounds an hour at one point. At first I thought there was no way but it's only 1000 orders of 1000 rounds. Hell I bought a few thousand myself.

Online retailers saying they did 2-3x black Friday sales.
 
Well that’s one good thing to come out of this at least.
 
RerouteToRemain said:
I can imagine.

Was going to follow it up with how many new buyers were there.

Omaha outdoors posted a story saying they have gotten hundreds of calls from first time buyers shocked that they can't buy a gun online shipped to their door. They had no idea about shipping to an ffl and then background checks. Gun stores in CA say lots if presumably previous anti gun people upset at ammo shipping restrictions to states, ammo background checks, 10 days waiting periods, etc.

I forgot what large online store it was but they were selling like a million rounds an hour at one point. At first I thought there was no way but it's only 1000 orders of 1000 rounds. Hell I bought a few thousand myself.

Online retailers saying they did 2-3x black Friday sales.
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Omaha outdoors is my go to for Okay Surefeed mags.
 
First time gun buyers/owners also means fucking idiots doing this for the 'gram:



Good Jesus fuck that gives me anxiety.
 
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