Economy Volkswagen gets Canceled

Rod1 said:
You would say good to anything Trump does anyway.
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I'm just messing with you, but seriously Trump's plan is working. Why don't you try rooting for America for a change?
 
Rod1 said:
VAT is sales tax, its also paid by domestic producers


By that logic California is tariffing the rest of America with its State-wide sales tax.
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It was a question not a statement. The other concern but I don't think as much with Europe was some countries letting China us their country as a work around to tarrifs on their sales to the US.
 
oldshadow said:
It was a question not a statement. The other concern but I don't think as much with Europe was some countries letting China us their country as a work around to tarrifs on their sales to the US.
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US cars also have a lot of content from Asia and a lot of US cars parts are manufactured in Mexico.

Trump could take the zero for zero tariffs and declare a win but he won't because he believes trade deficits are inherently a bad thing.
 
Rod1 said:
US cars also have a lot of content from Asia and a lot of US cars parts are manufactured in Mexico.

Trump could take the zero for zero tariffs and declare a win but he won't because he believes trade deficits are inherently a bad thing.
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We will see how this works out. Of he gets some kind of good deal in the end then it's a win. If it goes to shit it's on him and his administration.
 
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How many of you have been to Germany?

Yes, many times

How many F150's or American cars did you see?

ZERO
 
Whippy McGee said:
How many F150's or American cars did you see?
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Opel is very popular and its GM owned, the fact however is that American cars are just not made with European market consideration.

I mean you even pointed the F150 which has no European equivalent because in Europe trucks are for working not glorified SUVs
 
Scheme said:
Tariffs also lower demand of the people buying the car. If a car is tariffed at 10% then it is essentially 10% more expensive in that country than local auto manufacturers. Most people really look at prices when buying big items like cars. So having a tariff imbalance inherently hurts the demand for the company that is selling that car. A 7.5% tariff discrepancy on a large-ticket item like cars would be in the range of $2-5K, which as a consumer is a big deal, especially in EU markets that don't have the same amount of money that the American consumer market has.

I agree that a lot of people buy European cars because of the brand, so why exactly is a tariff so bad on them? They are typically going to be high-end vehicles (Porsche, Mercedes, Ferrari, etc. as you mentioned), so the car price for an average person is going to be less affected than a rich person buying these high-end vehicles. To me it sounds like rich people in America have to pay a little extra to buy luxury brand cars, like a pseudo-tax on the rich. If you are going to argue that the average person in America is going to be negatively affected, tariffs on Japan or South Korea are much more impactful.
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Small point, but since everyone mixes up this part. Tariff napkin math comes out of margin, not price.
 
oldshadow said:
Wasn't there something about a VAT tax on imported goods in Europe that was a point.

Kind of a work around to a Europe tariffs on US goods.
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Vat is the equivalent of sales tax, do you pay sales tax when you buy a car?
 
Scheme said:
By the same logic, should Europe make less shit cars as well given their auto tariffs on both America and China? Why is it okay for EU to impose a 10% tariff on American cars and America to only have a 2.5% tariff on theirs? Either the EU is just as dumb as America and has been for a long time or there may be more to it than simply making "less shit cars".
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You have a point there.. raising the US tariff on EU cars to 10% would have been a good move.

Setting a 20% tariff on all goods from the EU is fucking stupid.
 
More apt description would be "American car buyers get cancelled by VW."
 
Whippy McGee said:
How many of you have been to Germany?

Yes, many times

How many F150's or American cars did you see?

ZERO
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Spent 2 months in Germany in the late 80's Trucks in general are not popular due to the street suck for daily driving Trucks and I currently Drive a Silverado 1500 2019. They have vans or box trucks and trailers that don't largely drive through communities. Not unlike old Montreal that have have been to a number of times. A small pickup the Telo or Maverick would make a better choice.
 
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