Volk being short is not a disadvantage...

This isn't basketball.... BTW - Spud Webb would win the dunk contest this year.
 
It could actually cause them both problems. It could make it slightly harder for Volk to close the gap and, could make it harder for Islam to keep him down.
 
Agree

If Volk was tall and lanky Ortega finishes the choke. A short stocky fighter with sick skills is not necessarily at a disadvantage ie HW DC. Volk also played rugby at 200+ lbs so you know he can function at a high level with some extra weight.

I put Islam at a SLIGHT advantage here but Volk has way more than a punchers chance to win tonight.
 
Of course but he’s 160 lbs against a massive really good grappler.

in the 90s you could play pee wee football at that size.
 
In combat sports, being taller is always an advantage, all things being equal.

Rarely are things all equal so yes, a shorter guy can sometimes win, but that's the same as a stronger fighter vs a weaker fighter, all things being equal, strength helps you...

In this case, Islam is no moron, so being taller, despite reach measurements will only help him, and if Volk wins, it's not because he's shorter, it's because he's just using tools other tall people haven't.

A good tall guy beats a good short guy, unless a tall guy lacks elements a short guy can capitalize on.
 
Coconutwater said:
In combat sports, being taller is always an advantage, all things being equal.

Rarely are things all equal so yes, a shorter guy can sometimes win, but that's the same as a stronger fighter vs a weaker fighter, all things being equal, strength helps you...

In this case, Islam is no moron, so being taller, despite reach measurements will only help him, and if Volk wins, it's not because he's shorter, it's because he's just using tools other tall people haven't.

A good tall guy beats a good short guy, unless a tall guy lacks elements a short guy can capitalize on.
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Funny that you say that with a Wallid avatar.
 
VAfan said:
this isn't true. it's not the only disadvantage. any boxer will tell you it's exhausting punching up at a much taller opponent. and he's going to have to do a lot of boxing in this fight, at least if he wants it to go his way. he's a big underdog for a reason.
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... not to mention knees.
 
Ehhh if Islam gets double underhooks on this much shorter fighter he's almost assuredly scoring the takedown.

If there's one advantage Volk has it's cardio, and with a suffocating grappler like Islam he could drain that gas tank real quick with a couple rounds making him work on the ground, who knows how much that cardio advantage is even gonna play into things.
 
Koro_11 said:
Aside from Islam getting caught by Adriano Martins, which pretty much everyone considers a bit of a fluke, it's obvious his only real tough test and seemingly bad matchup in the UFC so far has been Arman Tsarukyan. Not sure how many sherbros actually watch the fights but if you haven't already you should definitely watch that one.

Now Volk is not the same fighter Arman is, but they do have a lot of similarities. And I know Islam is much improved from that fight, but you can also say the same about Arman as it was his very first UFC fight. But it was another stocky short guy with an endless gas tank and lots of tenacity, a treestump with low center of gravity... a lot like Volk. Now Tsarukyan is probably the better grappler, but Volk is certainly the better striker, with a lot more experience.

I also have a hard time seeing Makhachev losing to anyone right now, but one could argue that Volk is a more savy and more calculated version of Tsarukyan, with weaker grappling but significantly better striking and fight IQ. I have it 60/40 Islam, but I think Volk will really push him to the brink, this is a really interesting fight and I can't wait.


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The way I see this...

Volk will win... Islam style works but not against Volk, Volk will bring a different narrative, Volk will win simply cause he will grind it out to the 4th, and from 4th to 5th it will be dominate from Volk. Islam will put Volk in the first 3 rounds like he is going to pull off a submission, but Volk will slip out and the strikes will gradually grow in Volks favor...Islam will be dealing with someone slippery by 3rd round, the leg kicks from Islam from the first 1 and 2 round will grow slower. The hands by 3rd for Volk and the 3rd round will really determine who wins. I expect Volk, in the 3rd looking better, and winning fight from that point on.But I know its not that simple, overall, I see Volk having tools that will work against Islam to pull off a late win in strikes, or decision, have a hard time seeing him submit...Islam submission game is so good that the first 1 and 2 rounds get me guessing, but, I get to guess as a fan, I don't think Islam submits Volk in first 2 rounds which I think will be his biggest problem.

We look at Volk vs Islam career, both loss but in early times, Volk to me has the experience, Islam started later and has not been in those championship rounds like Volk but looks clearly ready to be in them. .....I think my whole belief can go to crap if Islam is just too strong for him...I don't think Islam will be and if Volk can keep standing it up, I think Volk proves it. But.....I have no idea how strong Islam will be for Volk. Islam is bigger by weight class, and Volk if wins, proves he could have went to that division. I think Volk thinks he stylistically matches well vs Islam which I do too, I believe thats why he took the fight too. I see allot of strengths in Volk that will help him win. What a fight to see though, we all win, whoever wins or loses...its a very interesting match up.
 
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Coconutwater said:
In combat sports, being taller is always an advantage, all things being equal.

Rarely are things all equal so yes, a shorter guy can sometimes win, but that's the same as a stronger fighter vs a weaker fighter, all things being equal, strength helps you...

In this case, Islam is no moron, so being taller, despite reach measurements will only help him, and if Volk wins, it's not because he's shorter, it's because he's just using tools other tall people haven't.

A good tall guy beats a good short guy, unless a tall guy lacks elements a short guy can capitalize on.
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I think you're wrong.
 
All about Volk surviving first 2 rds.

With Volks experience, will power, an low center of gravity he won't be easy to tske down even for Islam n will be tough to keep down due to his fight n determination alone.

Now if Islam brings his top level gsme and takes Volk 100% serious he likes wins in first 2 rds via sub. If Islam is lacking at all in either Volk will win this fight
 
Koro_11 said:
Nah, I think Volk has a lot more than just a puncher's chance, the puncher's chance goes without saying and everyone has that.

I'm saying I think Volk might actually be able to outgrind him, win a decision or get a late finish.
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i hope your right, i hated wrestling short stocky guys in school
 
Coconutwater said:
In combat sports, being taller is always an advantage, all things being equal.

Rarely are things all equal so yes, a shorter guy can sometimes win, but that's the same as a stronger fighter vs a weaker fighter, all things being equal, strength helps you...

In this case, Islam is no moron, so being taller, despite reach measurements will only help him, and if Volk wins, it's not because he's shorter, it's because he's just using tools other tall people haven't.

A good tall guy beats a good short guy, unless a tall guy lacks elements a short guy can capitalize on.
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To be honest... this might be a me problem... im 5 ft 11... and when I sparred tall guys like 6 ft 1 or 2 I found it easier to get inside and smother.... when I fought 5 ft 8 guys it was hard to keep me off of them... all about the same weight... but like I said it might have been my personal boxing wrestling and muai thai style.. that said kicking range was easier against the short guys... but I really preferred using kicks on the outside than coming in to punch.
 
Being the shorter/smaller guy is a disadvantage in all areas of combat sports. Arman giving Islam a challenge in grappling was entirely about his skillset, not height. Volk is not a high level credentialed wrestler, he's not going to be able to stop the takedown for long.

Also if anything being much taller makes it easier to defend takedowns, remember olympic wrestler Cormier trying to take Jones down repeatedly and Jones just putting a hand or foot down on the canvas to stop it cause he was tall enough to do that? If they were the same height DC gets those takedowns and maybe changes the flow of the fight. Being short is never good, in fighting or in life, there are just some guys who overachieve for their stature.
 
jko1355 said:
To be honest... this might be a me problem... im 5 ft 11... and when I sparred tall guys like 6 ft 1 or 2 I found it easier to get inside and smother.... when I fought 5 ft 8 guys it was hard to keep me off of them... all about the same weight... but like I said it might have been my personal boxing wrestling and muai thai style.. that said kicking range was easier against the short guys... but I really preferred using kicks on the outside than coming in to punch.
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A lot of people think I'm automatically equating height with victory, I'm not. All I'm saying is, if you take a brain, a clone them, put them in two bodies, two identical bodies, the only difference is height, then taller guy has the advantage, IMO. It doesn't count if you pick a super skilled short guy against a decent, but less skilled tall guy..

I mean, just look at how effective teeps and jabs are coming from a tall guy. Sherbros be uploading Mike Tyson as proof that short guys prevail for heaven sakes.
 
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