Valentina Shevchenko is NOT slowing down

[Geniusss]

After she beats Grasso it would be smartest to fight Fiorot next as she earned her title shot by beating the number 1 conteder.
Then after that either go up and fight Amanda in the first ever UFC wmma trilogy OR fight Weili in a superfight at 125.

Fiorot said she wants another fight before title fight for her comeback so I'm guessing Blanchfield is next since she said she is ready and she is #3 right now

Then after that she could fight Santos and Fiorot this year

The super fights Shev/Nunes or Shev/Zhang are good

But Zhang has a lot to prove in her diviison first, she needs to keep the belt for a bit at least and Nunes gotta settle the score with Peña theyre 1-1, theu need a trilogy and she also gotta fight Aldana

 

[Geniusss]

She wasn't piecing Santos up, her headbutt was more significant than any of her striking. This is why good grapplers are a problem for Valentina because her striking isn't what people make it out to be. She relies on her strength and grappling advantage a lot, so a good grappler that can negate Valentina's grappling givers her a lot of problems. And they don't even have to be good strikers, just tough and it will give Valentina problems and make her panic

Her striking isn't what ppl make it to be?
What? She is one of the best counterstriker in the game

She has beat the most decorated strikers at stand up. She beat Amanda Nunes at stand up, Amanda barely got a SP due to a couple of takedowns.

She also completaly outclassed Holm at stand up (x18 times world boxing champion)

She outclassed Joanna too (x5 timed world muay thai champion)

So you are saying her striking is overrated? Who is beating her at stand up?

 

[Shay Brennan]

Fiorot said she wants another fight before title fight for her comeback so I'm guessing Blanchfield is next since she said she is ready and she is #3 right now

Then after that she could fight Santos and Fiorot this year

The super fights Shev/Nunes or Shev/Zhang are good

But Zhang has a lot to prove in her diviison first, she needs to keep the belt for a bit at least and Nunes gotta settle the score with Peña theyre 1-1, theu need a trilogy and she also gotta fight Aldana

I'd much rather have Val vs Nunes as the first ever UFC wmma trilogy bout than Nunes vs Pena.
Pena will just get battered again.

 

[Kung Fu Kowboy]

Literally have never seen a post / thread on her slowing down

 

[Substance Abuse]

She's 35. She's slowing down. She was just so damn good that it may not seem like it.

 

[GolovKing]

Her striking isn't what ppl make it to be?
What? She is one of the best counterstriker in the game

She has beat the most decorated strikers at stand up. She beat Amanda Nunes at stand up, Amanda barely got a SP due to a couple of takedowns.

She also completaly outclassed Holm at stand up (x18 times world boxing champion)

She outclassed Joanna too (x5 timed world muay thai champion)

So you are saying her striking is overrated? Who is beating her at stand up?

Well I mostly think wmma skills are low compared to men's. There's many male strikers that are more skilled and talented than Valentina, but people believe that she's right up there. The second thing I want to say is about the Joanna fights. The fights they had in muay thai were garbage and Val showed no skill, particularly no striking skills in those fights, she just used her power and size to grab Joanna and dump her to the ground over and over. In the mma fight they had, she fought a past prime Joanna out of her natural weight class yet while getting the better of Joanna early, Joanna actually started to get Valentina's timing down and was beginning to get the better of Valentina in striking exchanges as Val started to gas, so what does Valentina do? She goes to her wrestling knowing that Joanna is a better pure striker than she is. Nunes imo is a better striker but is not as consistent and I think does struggle against Valentina head to head because the speed is something she has difficulties with. Against common opponents Nunes has showed better striking though. Honestly I think Grasso can give Valentina problems on the feet and I definitely don't consider her to be a high level striker but I don't think Valentina will try to trade with Alexa that much anyways she will make it more of a wrestling match

 

[Wonderfight]

She wasn't piecing Santos up, her headbutt was more significant than any of her striking. This is why good grapplers are a problem for Valentina because her striking isn't what people make it out to be. She relies on her strength and grappling advantage a lot, so a good grappler that can negate Valentina's grappling givers her a lot of problems. And they don't even have to be good strikers, just tough and it will give Valentina problems and make her panic

Her striking is not all that? She is touched a few times in every of her fights, her striking defense is the best we have seen in history of WMMA, immaculate is the only word for it. Level of competition compared to damage she took on feet through whole career? Are you guys are blind of something? That women exits the ring with face cleaner than before the fight pretty much every time.

She is by far the most skilled WMMA fighter we have seen ever. Yeah I know Amanda is a double champ, but she is a prime example of size helping with average technique (atrocious striking…), you just need a tough girl who can take punches and give one back and you will have Amanda in problems. But Schevchenko striking is not all that people make it up to be? Cmon…

 

[TempleoftheDog]

Well I mostly think wmma skills are low compared to men's. There's many male strikers that are more skilled and talented than Valentina, but people believe that she's right up there. The second thing I want to say is about the Joanna fights. The fights they had in muay thai were garbage and Val showed no skill, particularly no striking skills in those fights, she just used her power and size to grab Joanna and dump her to the ground over and over. In the mma fight they had, she fought a past prime Joanna out of her natural weight class yet while getting the better of Joanna early, Joanna actually started to get Valentina's timing down and was beginning to get the better of Valentina in striking exchanges as Val started to gas, so what does Valentina do? She goes to her wrestling knowing that Joanna is a better pure striker than she is. Nunes imo is a better striker but is not as consistent and I think does struggle against Valentina head to head because the speed is something she has difficulties with. Against common opponents Nunes has showed better striking though. Honestly I think Grasso can give Valentina problems on the feet and I definitely don't consider her to be a high level striker but I don't think Valentina will try to trade with Alexa that much anyways she will make it more of a wrestling match

I’m not the grammar police. But you might want to change this into a post with 3, or 4 paragraphs. In the future. It makes it much easier to read. Walls of text sometimes just stop a person from reading the whole thing.

With all due respect.

 

[VAfan]

she's so far ahead of the curve she'll be able to fight to 40 easy. maybe even 45, like the female tom brady.

 

[T-dog.1337]

I have a feeling Val will compete until she passes the torch, whenever that may be.

She is so deeply committed to the martial arts lifestyle I don't think she could accept walking away and wondering if she could have kept winning.

I think she rides it until the wheels come off, be that via injury, age or opposition talent catching up to the bar she set.

I concur. This falls in line with her "character", so to speak. She's a formidable icon in WMMA and I can't say anything bad about her, though some try to make her the villain, I'm not seeing it. She's just a complete fighter who loves what she does and makes the sport better by setting a standard.

I'm pretty sure everyone is slowing down physically at 35. Most women in sports where speed is important peak before they're 30.

It's probably not going to katter against good stylistic match ups for her like grasso and fiorot, though.

meanwhile, Shelly Ann Fraser Pryce

Jamaican sprinter setting new records, fastest woman in the world rn,
36 years old, and also recently had a kid.
Mind over matter all day, I say.

edit: In addition, I do believe some sports have an age cap/limit, but contrary to popular belief, many DON'T. It's just unfeasable for most to put in enough work to get to where they want to be, and I think thats completely rational for most people, actually, making it past a certain age... it's definitely irrational.
Anyway,
if there's anything that's confirmed to have an age gap it's gymnastics.
So i'd say speed isn't the factor that lessens with age but... strength and flexibility instead.

 

[Starman]

Yes, Weili double champ please

Gross.

 

[Eater of Souls]

Literally have never seen a post / thread on her slowing down

Really?

 

[Eater of Souls]

Literally have never seen a post / thread on her slowing down

 

[drbolony]

She is going to put the paws on that girl

Of course she is, she's fighting a girl who publicly stated she needed at least one more fight to feel ready for 5 rounds when she had willing contenders.

You dumped this thread real quick:
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/alexa-grasso-boxing-is-too-good.4280073/

 

[Pharenheit]

Need pics to prove your case

 

[MyNameisMyName]

She needs to get a better sidepiece than Jon Jones.

 

[Gigacardio]

I’d like to see her win tonight (which she will)

then fight Amanda trilogy as almost everyone thought she won the second fight

then they should both retire …. Amanda has a foot out the door already …. And Val has nothing left to prove if she beats Amanda

she only risks getting grapplefucked by Erin or Tatiana

No, by no means almost everyone thinks she won the second Amanda fight. That's huge bull even by fanboy standards.

 

[Geniusss]

Of course she is, she's fighting a girl who publicly stated she needed at least one more fight to feel ready for 5 rounds when she had willing contenders

What willing contenders? Chookagian Andrade and Santos had already lost to Shev
Manon Fiorot was injured and Blanchfield needed get higher in the rankings

Grasso was the only one available in the top 5

 

[julmma]

She wasn't piecing Santos up, her headbutt was more significant than any of her striking. This is why good grapplers are a problem for Valentina because her striking isn't what people make it out to be. She relies on her strength and grappling advantage a lot, so a good grappler that can negate Valentina's grappling givers her a lot of problems. And they don't even have to be good strikers, just tough and it will give Valentina problems and make her panic

Wonder how or when she went from being a pure counter striker and bad wrestler to be the complete opposite…

She's 35. She's slowing down. She was just so damn good that it may not seem like it.

This

 

[WalterSobchak]

Shit thread NO PICS. Science is falling behind.