Vadim Nemkov pay vs Glover pay

[TorontoTO]

So Glover has made more than Nemkov. Unless you are talking about the hypothetical Nemkov who fights in 2 months. There is no sponsorship money for Nemkov in my opinion but tell me, how big will it be since its on CBS...

No one even knows who he. Don't let the C-list organizations trick you. Nemkov is stiff as a board. Bellator ain't it.

When Glover was fighting back in the day, even Jon Jones wasn't getting paid millions and millions. The sport has evolved. You are just picking and choosing your "fighter pay" battles poorly.

Nemkov is stiff as a board? Wtf are you talking about. Also CBS is the most watched channel in all of America, so no idea why you are trying to make it out as it's not a big thing

 

[brackis1]

Posts like this make me laugh everytime - Go for example ask Attila Vegh, former Bellator champ how great it was to win LHW tournament of Bellator back in the day. How they tricked him and how they gave him for +- 4 fights + won of title only prize money of 100 k dollars and how many he had after he paid his team and taxes? basically nothing. - (They refused to pay him show money for fights and weigh ins, they paid him only prize for victory in tournament...)

Also u should compare paychecks of people on prelims - UFC 12 K minimal vs 300-500 dollars from Bellator. (in some cases)..

uhhh what?
Bellator paid a woman $25,000 to fight on Youtube on their undercard recently who has like a 5-1 record and minor following lol.

The only people paid $3000 or so (their minimum abouts) are under undercard fights between guys with 3-4 total pro fights. Which is great pay an exposure.

 

[kflo]

A guy like Glover who's had 6 losses in the ufc averaging 120k per fight is congruent with the business model where Moreno makes 150k to fight for a title, where Costa makes 70k, where Rory got 40k to fight for a title. Where Jones, cejudo and Ngannou are all sitting out due to low fighter pay. But shills can't accept it. "But... but... but those backroom bonuses!"

UFC= U FIGHT CHEAP

Again, your OP was trying to compare what nemkov made vs glover and you don’t know what glover made. Now you’re changing your thread. Notice i haven’t mentioned backroom bonuses, yet you keep inserting those words for some reason…..

 

[TorontoTO]

uhhh what?
Bellator paid a woman $25,000 to fight on Youtube on their undercard recently.

The only people paid $3000 or so (their minimum) are under undercard fights between guys with 3-4 total pro fights. Which is great pay an exposure.

Knowing what guys from my gym usually get paid for regional cards when they have 1-5 bouts, 3000K is amazing. It's usually a couple hundred if that.

Bellator prelims are basically on par with Contender Series, most of the guys brought in to fight their contracted prospects are on one off contracts.

However, Contender Series pays the best prospects in the game 5K/5K for the chance to win a 10K/10K contract, which is sad. Jack Della is making 10K/10K per bout

 

[brackis1]

Knowing what guys from my gym usually get paid for regional cards when they have 1-5 bouts, 3000K is amazing. It's usually a couple hundred if that.

Bellator prelims are basically on par with Contender Series, most of the guys brought in to fight their contracted guys are on one off contracts.

However, Contender Series pays the best prospects in the game 5K/5K for the chance to win a 10K/10K contract, which is sad. Jack Della is making 10K/10K per bout

Jack Della is also an outlier who will be pushed quickly because he is an Aussie. Guy hasn't been pro very long and fought in a single regional promotion
The biggest travesty is guys like Andre Muniz who have been pro for over a decade and won titles in other orgs literally 6 years ago...forced to fight on the Cantender TWICE against tough competition waiting a year between Cantender fights, both against guys with 10+ fights and big-name victories on their record (first guy he beat had beaten Jailton Almeida, his second fight against a dude who then heelhooked Ed Ruth). While Jack Della at least got in immediately despite not getting a finish on there against someone with under 10 pro fights.

 

[NicholasJBasile]

Who was it. Why don't you just say his name?

Sorry -- Patrick Cummins

 

[Hellowhosthat]

I mean the UFC also doesn't get top fighters from most other big promotions either, ie. your KSW, ACA, Oktagon, etc

They can get the Oktagon ones usually (though I'd hesitate to call Oktagon a big promotion), but they got Klein and Bleda from there no problem and I imagine they'll sign Keita in the not too distant future.

KSW I guess they got Gamrot and Dricus, just not Soldic. Don't know if they've made a play for Parnagoat yet.

ACA they could have had Kerimov, Vartanyan, Shabliy, Tumenov, Vakhaev, Goncharov, Raisov, Kerefov if they'd wanted them, but they've passed for whatever reason. They used to sign the bigger ACB names like Yan, Zabit, Askarov and Antigulov but for whatever reason they seem to intentionally sign lesser Russians a lot of the time it feels like.

 

[Tokoloko]

uhhh what?
Bellator paid a woman $25,000 to fight on Youtube on their undercard recently who has like a 5-1 record and minor following lol.

The only people paid $3000 or so (their minimum abouts) are under undercard fights between guys with 3-4 total pro fights. Which is great pay an exposure.

1.3000 is comical pay if u compare it to 12k
2.Multiple guys were paid/offered few hundreds
3.Bellator is keep getting rejected by fighters from regional scene, for example - Krištofič, guy is nothing great, but he recently declined Bellator. Not once but twice...and reason was - 1. pay, 2. stupid matchmaking. - (Iam pretty sure that this guy is not having more than 3-5k euro per fight in OKTAGON...)

Bellator overpays few people and rest of roster is underpaid...

 

[Tokoloko]

I mean the UFC also doesn't get top fighters from most other big promotions either, ie. your KSW, ACA, Oktagon, etc

UFC can have whoever they want from OKTAGON. Only one fighter from OKTAGON who wont accept regular contract by UFC is OKTAGON WW champ David Kozma...

Meanwhile Bellator have basically 0 success here...

 

[ejazahmednit]

I love threads like this
So much fiction in them

 

[Hellowhosthat]

UFC can have whoever they want from OKTAGON. Only one fighter from OKTAGON who wont accept regular contract by UFC is OKTAGON WW champ David Kozma...

Meanwhile Bellator have basically 0 success here...

I can see why Kozma would turn them down, he's very good on the Euro regional scene but I don't think he'd have any chance of making the rankings in the UFC.

 

[The Last King]

I love threads like this
So much fiction in them

That back room bonus fiction

 

[Tokoloko]

I can see why Kozma would turn them down, he's very good on the Euro regional scene but I don't think he'd have any chance of making the rankings in the UFC.

He could crack into ranking but he would need to upgrade his striking defense.

BTW his training partner which i mentioned long time ago is finally in talks with UFC for few months already. -

 

[Hellowhosthat]

He could crack into ranking but he would need to upgrade his striking defense.

BTW his training partner which i mentioned long time ago is finally in talks with UFC for few months already. -

I think Kozma would be a solid mid tier guy, kind of around where someone like Nicolas Dalby is.

I actually think of the Oktagon champs other than Keita that Kincl would do the best in the UFC.

 

[Yrat]

Vadim Nemkov is 30 years old, he has a record of 16-2, hes been fighting for 9 years and in his last fight he made 1.3M in Bellator. He's the LHW Champion of Bellator.

Glover Texeira is 43 years old, he has a record of 33-8, he's been fighting for 20 years and he makes 120k per fight in the UFC and was recently the UFC LHW champion.

Glover Texeira has never made a million dollars for one fight in the UFC. Hes made 2.7M for 22 fights, averaging 120k per fight at a company that's 10x bigger than Bellator with 10x the resources of Bellator.

This is disrespectful to a fighter like Glover Texeira who is an all time great and UFC champion.

UFC stands for U FIGHT CHEAP

Glover was complaining about fighting Magomed Ankalaev, so i guess he is an ungrateful fighter.

Sheeshh!! Way to many UFC fighters who are complaining about the payment

 

[Tokoloko]

I think Kozma would be a solid mid tier guy, kind of around where someone like Nicolas Dalby is.

I actually think of the Oktagon champs other than Keita that Kincl would do the best in the UFC.

Kincl should definitely sign with UFC if he manages to beat Vemola on 30.12. (There are some rumours that winner of fight will be signed which seems pretty unreal to me, but who knows.)

Keita could have very bright future, but he should work on his strength otherwise he will eventually get worked badly by some wrestler.

BTW Keita recently called out Sivak for standup fight, which is not very wise decision by Keita and his team... -
Sivak vs Sugden (Glory veteran) in MMA standup without takedowns.

 

[TorontoTO]

1.3000 is comical pay if u compare it to 12k
2.Multiple guys were paid/offered few hundreds
3.Bellator is keep getting rejected by fighters from regional scene, for example - Krištofič, guy is nothing great, but he recently declined Bellator. Not once but twice...and reason was - 1. pay, 2. stupid matchmaking. - (Iam pretty sure that this guy is not having more than 3-5k euro per fight in OKTAGON...)

Bellator overpays few people and rest of roster is underpaid...

I mean how much would you pay for someone like Krištofič? Likewise knowing how much they paid Kamil Oniszczuk, Krištofič offer was probably not 3K they pay to debuting guys

Secondly, stupid matchmaking in that he would fight hard opponents or easy ones?

 

[Tokoloko]

I mean how much would you pay for someone like Krištofič? Likewise knowing how much they paid Kamil Oniszczuk, Krištofič offer was probably not 3K they pay to debuting guys

Secondly, stupid matchmaking in that he would fight hard opponents or easy ones?

First fight was vs unatracttive fighter and low money and second offer was good money vs LHW in LHW.- Krištofič is WW which sometimes fights in MW...

 

[TorontoTO]

First fight was vs unatracttive fighter and low money and second offer was good money vs LHW in LHW.- Krištofič is WW which sometimes fights in MW...

I mean he hasn't fought at WW since 2019 and has 5 bouts since then at MW, at this point he is a MW, but point taken about the rest

 

[Tokoloko]

I mean he hasn't fought at WW since 2019 and has 5 bouts since then at MW, at this point he is a MW, but point taken about the rest

He lost his title chance in WW and division became too stacked in OKTAGON with addition of Buscape, Veličkovič and etc... So he is atm fighting in more comfortable MW (my opinion).

BTW Iam not fan of Krištofič, but he is controversial and he would bring alot of fans to watch Bellator - He got fanbases in 3 countries. So 3-5k is not enough, mainly when its offer from someone who got TV deal and call himself 2nd best promotion in world...