Law Utah Senator changes consent law after relative gets charged for having sex with a minor:

[Sinister]

"Utah Senate President J. Stuart Adams is facing questions over a legislative change that eased penalties in certain teenage sex cases while his relative was charged with first‑degree felonies for having sex with a 13‑year‑old, The Salt Lake Tribune reported. Adams acknowledged raising the issue but denied requesting or drafting the measure. “This case stemmed from a serious mistake, but I was surprised by the severity of the charges,” Adams said in a statement.

The law, passed as part of SB213 in 2024, allows prosecutors to file a third‑degree felony, rather than child rape, when an 18‑year‑old high school student has sex with a 13‑year‑old. While the change was not retroactive, prosecutors and defence attorney Cara Tangaro said in court it was pivotal to resolving the pending case through a plea deal."

Utah GOP Senator Stuart Adams Pushes To Amend Child Rape Law After Relative Faces Accusation

Utah Senate President Stuart Adams faces criticism after lawmakers changed state law to ease penalties for 18‑year‑old high school students in consent‑related cases. The shift came as Adams’ relative faced child rape charges., US News, Times Now

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F*ckin gross. Party of protecting child grapists.

 

[oldshadow]

I would need more information on the case to make a judgment on what the guy should get. The law sounds OK in some very rare cases.

You need more information on this particular case to say what he should have got.

First did you know the girl was 13 if so then he should get the rape charge.

If she she told him she was 17 or 18 or something and looked it then I can see a reduce charge if that can be proven. Still a very serious charge, a felony but its rare this can be proven.

It hard to know without more information.

 

[oldshadow]

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I said its rare and he should still get a felony for not being more careful.

I have seen girls that were 14 and looked 18. They even sounded older and lied and said they were. I warn a friend yo be careful because I thought she was was younger. This was quite a long time ago but im sure it still happens. This case could not be that and this ass hole needs to go to prison for the rest of his life most likely.

If you are a young guy dont trust any female you dont lnow for many reasons. Hell dont trust ones you do know. This served me well.

 

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I said its rare and he should still get a felony for not being more careful.

I have seen girls that were 14 and looked 18. They even sounded older and lied and said they were. I warn a friend yo be careful because I thought she was was younger. This was quite a long time ago but im sure it still happens. This case could not be that and this ass hole needs to go to prison for the rest of his life most likely.

If you are a young guy dont trust any female you dont lnow for many reasons. Hell dont trust ones you do know. This served me well.

You’re a sick and disgusting person. Seriously what is wrong with you? No one gets tricked by a 13 year old. Stop trying to mitigate abhorrent behavior.

 

[EL CORINTHIAN]

Does this law make any case where an 18 year old having sex with a 13 year old possible for reduced sentencing or is it only under certain circumstances?

Generally speaking though, this is gross. If your 18 and knowingly sleep with a 13 year old, your nasty as fuck, despite it skirting well established Romeo-juliet laws. You gotta draw a line in the sand somewhere, and this would probably be it for me.

 

[EL CORINTHIAN]

You’re a sick and disgusting person. Seriously what is wrong with you? No one gets tricked by a 13 year old. Stop trying to mitigate abhorrent behavior.

You'd be surprised. While I'm fully on board with your general sentiment, sometimes it can be hard to tell, even at that age.

 

[Last Falconry]

it's spreading. at this rate, even some of the closeted guys are going to get in on this

 

[oldshadow]

You’re a sick and disgusting person. Seriously what is wrong with you? No one gets tricked by a 13 year old. Stop trying to mitigate abhorrent behavior.

I said its rare but I have seen a you girl lie to a friend when I was young. Her older friends backed her up. She was coming on to a friend of mine that was 18. She looked order. I told him to back away because her friends didn't seem quite right and something felt off. This was at a private party her friends brought her to and there was drinking. Good thing he listened before we found out much latter she was actually 14.

What im saying is no matter what its still his fault and he need prison but maybe just maybe there is a small chance not life but 10 or 15 years.

 

[Crazy Source]

it's spreading. at this rate, even some of the closeted guys are going to get in on this

It's too much ignore now. They are trying to normalize banging kids.

 

[oldshadow]

It's too much ignore now. They are trying to normalize banging kids.

Who said that.

 

[Sinister]

Does this law make any case where an 18 year old having sex with a 13 year old possible for reduced sentencing or is it only under certain circumstances?

Generally speaking though, this is gross. If your 18 and knowingly sleep with a 13 year old, your nasty as fuck, despite it skirting well established Romeo-juliet laws. You gotta draw a line in the sand somewhere, and this would probably be it for me.

The problem, as I see it, isn't merely the question of sentencing for the crime. It's the heirarchy, the power structure. The fact that this is a Senator who is intervening on behalf of a Family member where the State already had a law in place.

What it means is if they want the law changed to get away with something they will bury commoners for, they will do so.

 

[Sinister]

Who said that.

The people who routinely question consent laws, as well as wanting to reduce the age for marriage.

 

[EL CORINTHIAN]

The problem, as I see it, isn't merely the question of sentencing for the crime. It's the heirarchy, the power structure. The fact that this is a Senator who is intervening on behalf of a Family member where the State already had a law in place.

What it means is if they want the law changed to get away with something they will bury commoners for, they will do so.

That's absolutely an issue, but not the only one, and the way I see it, this can help absolve a lot of commoners from abhorrent behavior that they aren't above by virtue of them being at the bottom.

Make no mistake, while the "elites" are a disgusting bunch, you'll never see as much filth coming out of the lower rungs. This isn't a win for any hierarchical class, but for all scum bags alike.

But again, what are the details of this law? Does it apply to pretty much every single case or are there specific circumstances that need to be met to be eligible for it to be classified a third degree felony?

 

[oldshadow]

The people who routinely question consent laws, as well as wanting to reduce the age for marriage.

What do mean question consent laws. It varies state by state and by country if you expand it.

Age for marriage or consent should be the same as any adult responsibility. If you are an adult then you get adult responsibility and privilege.

 

[oldshadow]

The problem, as I see it, isn't merely the question of sentencing for the crime. It's the heirarchy, the power structure. The fact that this is a Senator who is intervening on behalf of a Family member where the State already had a law in place.

What it means is if they want the law changed to get away with something they will bury commoners for, they will do so.

He should and will be held under the law at the time of his crime.

 

[Stoic1]

These laws are weird.

I heard someone propose a 3 year spread rule starting at 13. Sounded reasonable.

I was banging at 15 and friends were doing it at 13-14. We know kids are fuckin. We just don't want em fuckin adults. A 13 and a 16 year old? Meh. A 15 and an 18 year old? Meh. An 18 and a 13 year old? Ughhhh... stretching it there. I don't feel like that's okay - but girls mature faster than boys.

But was it bad for me at 15 to bang an 18 year old? By the letter of the law in some states yeah maybe. No regerts.

But I remember a 13 year old girl suckin dicks at the back of the bus. And this was the 80's. No clue what the fuck is going on these days.

 

[EL CORINTHIAN]

These laws are weird.

I heard someone propose a 3 year spread rule starting at 13. Sounded reasonable.

I was banging at 15 and friends were doing it at 13-14. We know kids are fuckin. We just don't want em fuckin adults. A 13 and a 16 year old? Meh. A 15 and an 18 year old? Meh. An 18 and a 13 year old? Ughhhh... stretching it there. I don't feel like that's okay - but girls mature faster than boys.

But was it bad for me at 15 to bang an 18 year old? By the letter of the law in some states yeah maybe. No regerts.

But I remember a 13 year old girl suckin dicks at the back of the bus. And this was the 80's. No clue what the fuck is going on these days.

The 80s were a different beast entirely as I've heard from older peeps.

 

[Loiosh]

The 80s were a different beast entirely as I've heard from older peeps.

What have you heard?

I graduated high school in the eighties and three years was a pretty huge deal.

One grade difference was pretty common, two less so, and three was almost unheard of.

This was in Quebec, maybe America was different.

 

[Crazy Source]

Who said that.

Stuart Adams, for one.