Usyk v Fury 2 - unseen footage from the first fight

[treelo]

Found this today, thought it was a great watch and i am really starting to get excited about the rematch


A lot of people have opinions on whether the ref should have stopped the fight, i dont think he should have, more telling for me was that the bell saved Fury IMO, gave him that recovery time he desperately needed

 

[Kovalev's "Man Bag"]

The issue isn't with the bell saving Fury it's with the ref stepping in so late and deciding to give him a count after he'd already been held up by the ropes multiple times. Additionally, Fury took a couple dozen unanswered blows. He wasn't intelligently defending himself at all.

 

[treelo]

The issue isn't with the bell saving Fury it's with the ref stepping in so late and deciding to give him a count after he'd already been held up by the ropes multiple times. Additionally, Fury took a couple dozen unanswered blows. He wasn't intelligently defending himself at all.

i mean, it could have been stopped, but i am glad it wasnt, and Fury did OK after that round as well. Imagine how much crying would have gone on from people if the fight had of been stopped, it would have been terrible, it was bad enough that people thought he won the fight

 

[Kovalev's "Man Bag"]

i mean, it could have been stopped, but i am glad it wasnt, and Fury did OK after that round as well. Imagine how much crying would have gone on from people if the fight had of been stopped, it would have been terrible, it was bad enough that people thought he won the fight

It worked out and Fury recovered as he usually does but I don't think too many would've complained had it been stopped when he was slumped in the corner hanging against the ropes when the ref finally stepped in. Anybody that thought Fury won doesn't know how to properly score a boxing match or just isn't being objective.

 

[treelo]

the first fight was a very good fight, i didn't realise how good it was until recently

Fury needs to do something different or he has no chance, Usyk knows by pressuring him every round he can make Fury uncomfortable, that is his thing, make people work either physically or mentally for every minute of every round, he was even wobbled a few times in that Fury fight and looked hurt a few times, but Fury just didnt want to commit because he knew what was coming his way

i have scored the fight once or twice, neither went for Fury, even when i was trying my best to vouch for him in some rounds, the fact some of the commentators had him 4-2 up after 6 rounds was fucking mental

 

[Kovalev's "Man Bag"]

the first fight was a very good fight, i didn't realise how good it was until recently

Fury needs to do something different or he has no chance, Usyk knows by pressuring him every round he can make Fury uncomfortable, that is his thing, make people work either physically or mentally for every minute of every round, he was even wobbled a few times in that Fury fight and looked hurt a few times, but Fury just didnt want to commit because he knew what was coming his way

i have scored the fight once or twice, neither went for Fury, even when i was trying my best to vouch for him in some rounds, the fact some of the commentators had him 4-2 up after 6 rounds was fucking mental

It was a good fight. You mentioned Usyk's pressure that worked last time. Bellew doesn't think it'll work again so they both might have to do something different or at least mix it up more. Fury's track record in rematches is spotless. He's stopped all of his opponents in them which tells us that his ability to make the adjustments between fights is excellent. Usyk's better at making adjustments on-the-fly in fights. After having rewatched it a couple times I still favor Usyk but think that it's a winnable fight for Fury.

 

[djacobox372]

It was a good fight. You mentioned Usyk's pressure that worked last time. Bellew doesn't think it'll work again so they both might have to do something different or at least mix it up more. Fury's track record in rematches is spotless. He's stopped all of his opponents in them which tells us that his ability to make the adjustments between fights is excellent. Usyk's better at making adjustments on-the-fly in fights. After having rewatched it a couple times I still favor Usyk but think that it's a winnable fight for Fury.

Usyks pressure didn't work, his left hand did... had he not landed that one punch it would have been a pretty one-sided affair, as Fury was running away with it.

 

[Kovalev's "Man Bag"]

Usyks pressure didn't work, his left hand did... had he not landed that one punch it would have been a pretty one-sided affair, as Fury was running away with it.

Possibly the worst take I've read on here in a long time. It also wasn't just one punch. He smashed Fury's nose in a round or two before he landed that counter left which had Fury in deep trouble and out on his feet. Secondly, Usyk always performs poorly in the middle rounds. You can look at any of his other heavyweight fights and see the same pattern. He'll start fast, take his foot off the gas a bit mid-fight, and then close strong late. Just as he did against Joshua.

 

[treelo]

wow, Fury was running away with it...you need locking up mate

he didnt win any of the first 3 rounds, and 7 was arguable, then in round 8 as the poster above pointed out, he got absolutely smashed by a few lefts, one of which really hurt him, possibly broke his nose and had Fury rubbing his face for the rest of the fight with blood pouring from his nose and his eye swolen

 

[Blastbeat]

Usyks pressure didn't work, his left hand did... had he not landed that one punch it would have been a pretty one-sided affair, as Fury was running away with it.

What the hell fight were you watching

 

[Kovalev's "Man Bag"]

What the hell fight were you watching

The same fight that we all watched. Usyk's vaunted "pressure" didn't affect Fury. It's just that Fury didn't take the fight seriously enough. He will this time. No more clowning around. He's gonna hunt that rabbit down and make stew out of him! Carrots included.

 

[Blastbeat]

The same fight that we all watched. Usyk's vaunted "pressure" didn't affect Fury. It's just that Fury didn't take the fight seriously enough. He will this time. No more clowning around. He's gonna hunt that rabbit down and make stew out of him! Carrots included.

hah
in all seriousness i do think Fury was fucking around too much
whether its because he didnt take it seriously or he was just trying to cope in the moment vs a superior boxer - only he knows that
a focused Fury is a dangerous Fury. but i know Usyk's gonna come correct. this rematch should be a B A N G E R

 

[treelo]

Fury was fucking around because he cant fight at the pace Usyk was making him fight for 12 rounds, he was trying to buy little bits of time here and there, i think he will go for the stoppage so it should be exciting, im not sure Fury has a bigger shot in him than those uppercuts he landed in the first fight, and while they did hurt Usyk, i dont think he was close to being stopped or going down

 

[Kovalev's "Man Bag"]

hah
in all seriousness i do think Fury was fucking around too much
whether its because he didnt take it seriously or he was just trying to cope in the moment vs a superior boxer - only he knows that
a focused Fury is a dangerous Fury. but i know Usyk's gonna come correct. this rematch should be a B A N G E R

Fury appeared discouraged and used that clowning around to take a breather and try and distract from it. A tactic you'll see fighters use when they're looking to take a moment's rest or trying to outhustle their opponent to make it appear that they're actually in control of the fight when they're not. It'll be interesting to see what their respective strategies are but we've also never seen Fury have to rebound from a loss (officially, he was gifted the first McDermott fight).

 

[Chaotic Progressor]

Ref should not have stopped the fight,

Because:

- It's Fury, and we've seen him get up on 9 after his eyes were rolling against Wilder / 1; and I know rules should apply to all indiscriminantly but this kind of rule / judgement is based on the specific fighter, and so that has to come into play

- it's also a title fight and one of the biggest, and most important: and undisputed, so unless he's OUT, you don't stop it

- he was still tryna move out the way, stumbling albiet

- the ropes held him up

Ref did the absolute right thing in calling a knockdown, as the ropes did hold him up. That's the rule. It's not a pro-Fury conspiracy, if you don't like it - challenge the rule, but that is the rule and tbh most refs don't enforce it or correctly; the ref did the absolute right thing here, and under immense pressure/think fast judgement.