Media Usman: ''I am not chasing GSP, GSP had 4 fights before his title shot''

Tevfik1907 said:

Time stamp: 8:28

Usman: ''I hate the way that's being put that I'm chasing GSP, I am not chasing GSP. GSP had maybe what four fights before he got the title shot? You know I had to take the long back roads, back door, back alley in order to get the title shot.''

Usman has a point. It was even worse for Khabib as he was robbed from title fight in 2016, and had to wait Conor for 2 years because of UFC's favoritism, and only in 2018 the belt was vacated. When you consider all of these, the title defense criteria is not the best criteria when UFC is not even being fair who gets title shot or not, and Usman is right about this, he too had to work his way to title shot, while GSP got his title shot only 2 fights later. Then Hughes submits GSP in the first title fight, then 4 fights later he won his title shot against Hughes, but then got KOed by Serra in the title fight. He has many decision wins, even a split decision with Hendricks. But let's be honest, he was UFC's favorite for sure.

He has finishes over BJ Penn (a lightweight), and Serra (the guy who KOed him before) and Hughes (the guy who finished him before).

-GSP was also never P4P No.1, while Usman already become P4P No.1.
-So even based on P4P No.1 criteria, Usman can be ahead of GSP.
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Usman has 9 decisions. (11 if you include his TUF fights)
Usman has title defences over Masvidal x 2 a Lighweight, Gilbert Burns a LW.
Usman fought lower level competition until his 14th pro fight (16 if you include his TUF fights)
GSP had fought 6-7 highly ranked fighters including 2 WW champions by his 14th fight.
Usman has only 7 ranked wins Maia, Woodley & Covington and 4 LWs (Mas x2, Burns & RDA)

Sorry to tell you and Usman but he is chasing GSP and has a long way to go. 13 fight win streak with a 12 UFC title fight win streak and 2 division Champion > Usman's resume no matter how you look at it. Frankly Usman is still chasing Matt Hughes but he is closing in on him.
 
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P4P lmao

TS is a filthy casual, confirmed

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fortheo said:
New fans also don't realize that the UFC has Lowered its standards a lot now adays. Now you can basically build a regional level fighter from scratch in the UFC and throw him bottom feeders untill he's ready for ranked guys. In GSP's days if you were in the UFC, you were going to be thrown to the wolves right off the bat. There was no chase hoopers in GSP's days. If you were in the UFC back then, you had already proven that you were legit.
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Exactly, GSP fought title contenders basically his entire UFC career. Outside of Heiron and Miller (who was fringe top 10 when they met) literally every guy GSP faced either contender for the belt of was supposed to at some point (Karo). Usmans run doesn’t even compare.
 
Portland8242 said:
He was also a boring ass blanket during his come up.
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He only started playing safe after Serra. How does being boring, take away from dominating every fighter in a division, in every aspect of a fight for 25 minutes?
samoajoe said:
Shields
Hughes x2
Penn x2
Diaz

Not gonna look at the records but Bisping, Fitch, Condit, Hendricks all might of been close as well when GSP fought them.
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all but one of GSPs fights were top 10 fighters at some point since his 6th fight besides one fighter
 
Usman says some dumb shit but he ain’t wrong on this one. Title defenses are a silly metric to use when comparing the legacy of two fighters, because UFC isn’t a meritocracy.
 
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I dont think the how quickly GSP got his title shot really makes a huge difference. Right now hes ranked higher for the simple fact that his resume is still deeper, although Usman is closing the gap pretty rapidly.
 
Well that's just plain wrong. GSP was 7-0 when he got his first shot, lost it, then was 12-1 when he got his 2nd shot. Beat 3 contenders to get it, and literally begged on his knees for it. Usman was 14-1 when he got his first shot.

GSP went 13-1 in title fights after he had 13 total fights. That's why he's highly regarded. Usman's gone 5-0 in title fights after being 14-1 before that. The resumes don't match.
 
Literally not relevant. GSP's career has like 8 more fights against solid fighters than you bud. Keep on chasing GSP. You and your fangirls gotta be on some good drugs to think you aren't still chasing GSP.
 
During Hughes and beginning of GSP's time they didn't have all the WWs under the same roof under later. Division was sort of thin. You had credibility based on your work outside of the UFC. You had to show up and win once or twice then you can get a title shot. By the time Usman was fighting; UFC had a viable WW division. Usman although effective was a bore to watch, he didn't have any mic skills and he wasn't pretty.
 
NoSmilez said:
During Hughes and beginning of GSP's time they didn't have all the WWs under the same roof under later. Division was sort of thin. You had credibility based on your work outside of the UFC. You had to show up and win once or twice then you can get a title shot. By the time Usman was fighting; UFC had a viable WW division. Usman although effective was a bore to watch, he didn't have any mic skills and he wasn't pretty.
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GSP has more fights against good fighters and it's not even close, really in that regard.
 
chinarice said:
What does it matter when your response will be subjective?

2 of Marty's top5 wins are LWs from GSP's Era.....
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Both of them started out as WWs. Jorge has bounced around from LW to WW throughout his whole career and Burns has more WW fights than LW fights but you don't want to hear it though.
 
Love Usman but when it comes to his and GSP records and their claim to WW GOAT, then GSP is still ahead by a wide margin.

Lets not forget GSP joined the UFC after he had just 5 pro fights and was like 22/23. Dude pretty much never had an easy fight. Gets to fight Karo and Hieron, and then in his 8th pro fight hes matched up against Hughes. Also his first pro fight was Menjivar whos a legit win, and Pete Spratt in his fifth bout.

People also tend to forget just how dominant GSP was in most of his fights, and especially after the Serra loss. GSP pretty much did what Khabib did to guys just with less offensive output on the ground. But dont get it twisted, he DOMINATED every fresh WW contender thrown at him for years. He dominated these guys so bad it was obvious there was a clear gap in skill-level between GSP and the nr. 2 of the division.
 
Usman had to win 9 fights in a row before he could even get a title shot while GSP got 3 title shots in about 7 fights in the UFC.

Usman would already have more title defenses than GSP if he was given 3 title shots in 7 fights.

GSP title defenses are a bit padded since he was given those title shots so early into his UFC career while other fighters like Usman had to win 9 fights in a row before even getting 1x title shot.
 
Different times and if you count until the title shot he won, he had 7 fights in UFC.
Marty from Nebraska had 9 fights.
 
HHJ said:
Times were different back then. GSP wasnt "gifted" anything for his first title shot.
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Very true, hence why we must grade on a curve and have nuance when making these comparisons across the ages. People will highlight 'title defenses' for guys that fought in weak divisions or were granted a title shot off of one fight. Now a days, there are more people doing this sport than ever, it is no longer taboo and receives true world class talent like Olympians/ex NFL pro bowlers, and simply breaking in the top ten can be harder than it was for many of these ex champions in the old days to get a belt.
 
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