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US Government Shutdown

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You can thank democrats for putting illegal immigrants before you and your loved ones.


Want to do something about it? Stop voting for the far left of the democrat party.

If DACA is so unpopular why is McConnell afraid to call a vote on it?

Call a vote on it then see it fail if it really is that unpopular.
 
The problem is that both major parties are being run by morons. Did you guys see Schumer and McConnell out there the other day blaming each other like two babies? Schumer even brought out a picture of Trump to point at when he said, "The Trump shutdown." What an ass. My girlfriend and I were cracking up. She was like, "Some staffer had to run to Kinkos and make that poster just so Schumer could put it behind him and point at it."

There is really no defending the attitude and lack of leadership that our politicians show. They are embarrassing people.
 
If DACA is so unpopular why is McConnell afraid to call a vote on it?

Call a vote on it then see it fail if it really is that unpopular.




It doesn’t seem that DACA is a problem at all. The problem seems to be democrats refuse to improve our immigration system, and our national security.


They attempted to put illegals before citizens, and it has backfired.
 
The problem is that both major parties are being run by morons. Did you guys see Schumer and McConnell out there the other day blaming each other like two babies? Schumer even brought out a picture of Trump to point at when he said, "The Trump shutdown." What an ass. My girlfriend and I were cracking up. She was like, "Some staffer had to run to Kinkos and make that poster just so Schumer could put it behind him and point at it."

There is really no defending the attitude and lack of leadership that our politicians show. They are embarrassing people.



That not “being run by morons” that is “leading morons”.


It is embarrassing, on that we agree.
 
I'm not advocating for anyone's family to be torn apart . . . if they're following the process towards citizenship then I'm perfectly fine with them being here.

Those who don't make one step towards becoming a citizen are the ones I wouldn't mind seeing leave.

Everyone on DACA is making the path toward citizenship.

Every single one.

They've gone farther than that, in my opinion they're already Americans.
 
The problem is that both major parties are being run by morons. Did you guys see Schumer and McConnell out there the other day blaming each other like two babies? Schumer even brought out a picture of Trump to point at when he said, "The Trump shutdown." What an ass. My girlfriend and I were cracking up. She was like, "Some staffer had to run to Kinkos and make that poster just so Schumer could put it behind him and point at it."

There is really no defending the attitude and lack of leadership that our politicians show. They are embarrassing people.


I doubt it. Chuck probably used the same pic of Trump's face that Chuck's wife makes him tape up over his own face so she feels like she's getting fucked by a man.
 
You should vote next time on whether we’re a safer, more prosperous nation.



As of right now we are, and that has been under republican leadership.

I assume you voted democratic then last election since we were safer and more prosperous under Obama than we were under bush.
 
It doesn’t seem that DACA is a problem at all. The problem seems to be democrats refuse to improve our immigration system, and our national security.


They attempted to put illegals before citizens, and it has backfired.
Please provide any evidence for this assertion. Thanks.
 
I said it several times in the other thread:

The Democrats always blink first in shutdown negotiations. So much of their voting constituency relies on the free flow of government largesse, that they can't allow the flow of money to slow down for very long.

Also, as everyone can see, the dire predictions never came true. We had slightly less government over the weekend, and the world didn't come to an end.
 
It doesn’t seem that DACA is a problem at all. The problem seems to be democrats refuse to improve our immigration system, and our national security.


They attempted to put illegals before citizens, and it has backfired.

Actually the problem is that a promise was broken, a promise that allowed the tax cuts to pass in the first place.

You are forgetting that 5 republicans voted against it due to said promise.
 
I assume you voted democratic then last election since we were safer and more prosperous under Obama than we were under bush.



Yes, I voted for Obama. I only regret the second vote. Bush was terrible.
 
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We got McConnell on record again saying that there's gonna be a DACA vote, but the Democrats caved.

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I'll say again: that's a hollow talking point.

The border was more secure during the Obama administration than at any point in US history, and it's now even more secure under Trump. And that border has had a negative migration rate since 2008.

Stop worrying. Live a little.
eh, you're arguing against something I didn't say. Our border is weak. We all know this. I don't care about Obama/Trump comparisons. Thats not what its about. Its about fixing a problem we've already fixed a couple of times. This is just a repeat of the Reagan amnesty in which laws were introduced to keep this from happening. Laws we ignore.

I love the US as a country where everyone can come and make it, thats what its about. But thats not what it is anymore. Its about coming here and being taken care of and thats a burden. No one comes here to be something anymore. To contribute anything. And please don't start with nonsense about African micro surgeons coming over on boats.
 
Good the shut down only cost more to get things back up and running the longer it goes.

And by secure the border it should also do something about over stays.
 
Please provide any evidence for this assertion. Thanks.



Simple, both sides want daca passed, but only democrats are unwilling to fix our immigration system, which has needed fixing for a long time.


DACA + border security + immigration reform sounds like a good deal to any reasonable person.
 
I said it several times in the other thread:

The Democrats always blink first in shutdown negotiations. So much of their voting constituency relies on the free flow of government largesse, that they can't allow the flow of money to slow down for very long.

Also, as everyone can see, the dire predictions never came true. We had slightly less government over the weekend, and the world didn't come to an end.

At least until Feb 8th.
 
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