US DoD Report on Chinese Military Power 2014

And b-52s are still badass, you need to learn your shit before posting this retarded nonsense.
What's retarded about it? An older platform can still be effective given the proper upgrades on the modern battlefield. Bombers these days are mostly focused on standoff precision strikes, which greatly improves their suvivability. I think you should stop sounding like a rambling idiot.
 
Not trying to be a dick here, but you don't think f-22s would blow them the fuck up from miles away?
F-22 operates as part of a carrier's air wing now? Did you put them there genius? The whole point of these bombers is to deliver their payload hundreds of kilometers away from their target, within protection offered by fighter escorts and IADS. You claim to be not trying look like a dick, but you sound exactly like an ignorant one.
 
F-22 operates as part of a carrier's air wing now? That just smells like ignorance. The whole point of these bombers is to deliver their payload hundreds of kilometers away from their target, within protection offered by fighter escorts and IADS.

Lol.... You have no idea wtf you're talking about. Yes you are correct, but you're a retard if you think those bombers a threat.
 
Lol.... You have no idea wtf you're talking about
Spoken like a retard. Just as carriers do not operate alone, those bombers are supported by other air and naval assets. In fact, those bombers present a greater threat to the US navy than all other Chinese strike assets.
 
Spoken like a retard. Just as carriers do not operate alone, those bombers are supported by other air and naval assets. In fact, those bombers present a greater threat to the US navy than all other Chinese strike assets.

No... ICMBs pose the greatest threat to carriers. Along with the a2/ad.
 
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You do realize there's airbases surrounding china.
You do realize that within minutes of a war, Chinese cruise and ballistic missiles would be raining down on those bases right? You do know that carrier groups have much greater survivability right? You seem to be under the notion that your assets will be perfectly safe to strike the other side without considering the capabilities of the OPFOR. Typical idiotic internet bravado.
 
You do realize that within minutes of a war, Chinese cruise and ballistic missiles would be raining down on those bases right? You do know that carrier groups have much greater survivability right? You seem to be under the notion that your assets will be perfectly safe to strike the other side without considering the capabilities of the OPFOR. Typical idiotic internet bravado.

Jesus... We can do this all day but I'll just stop beforehand.
 
No... ICMBs pose the greatest threat to carriers.
And this is how I can tell you're ignorant. First, they would not use ICBMs as it would be a waste. It's called medium range ballistic missiles. Second, for ballistic missiles to hit anything but static targets would be incredibly difficult. You need to accurately pinpoint the location of the carrier, track it then calculate where that carrier will be at the point of warhead impact. Any course deviation means even the most maneuverable warhead would have a tough time keeping up, as they're not designed to track mobile targets. China has not shown that kind of surveillance capabilities and won't likely obtain them in the future. Get your facts other than some sensationalist neocon sources.
 
And this is how I can tell you're ignorant. First, they would not use ICBMs as it would be a waste. It's called medium range ballistic missiles. Second, for ballistic missiles to hit anything but static targets would be incredibly difficult. You need to accurately pinpoint the location of the carrier, track it then calculate where that carrier will be at the point of warhead impact. Any course deviation means even the most maneuverable warhead would have a tough time keeping up, as they're not designed to track mobile targets. China has not shown that kind of surveillance capabilities and won't likely obtain them in the future. Get your facts other than some sensationalist neocon sources.

Holy fuck, you're blue belt is showing

http://www.seapowermagazine.org/stories/20140605-cruisemissiles.html
 
Read your own article. Guess why the military isn't paying much attention? Because they know it's a greatly exaggerated threat which China could not easily pull off. Instead these get gobbled up by ignorant idiots, such as yourself.

I didn't know forum belt colour is an indication of knowledge. I guess that's all you have going for yourself. Sorry to hear that.
 
Read your own article. Guess why the military isn't paying much attention? Because they know it's a greatly exaggerated threat which China could not easily pull off. Instead these get gobbled up by ignorant idiots, such as yourself.

I didn't know forum belt colour is an indication of knowledge. I guess that's all you have going for yourself. Sorry to hear that.

You've just slapped yourself. Good job.
 
You've just slapped yourself. Good job.
Aside from demonstrating that you are clueless, you haven't said anything meaningful. Somebody is slapping himself silly, and it isn't me. You do know why they call it ballistic missile right? Here is a hint, trajectory.
 
What's retarded about it? An older platform can still be effective given the proper upgrades on the modern battlefield. Bombers these days are mostly focused on standoff precision strikes, which greatly improves their suvivability. I think you should stop sounding like a rambling idiot.

this is why i hate how we scrapped the F-14 with out really having a viable replacement.
 
this is why i hate how we scrapped the F-14 with out really having a viable replacement.
It was necessary. F-14 were getting very expensive to operate, as the fleet aged. The variable sweeping wings added complexity to its maintenance and reduced readiness. I read somewhere that 6 hours of ground maintenance was needed for every hour in the air on average.
 
It was necessary. F-14 were getting very expensive to operate, as the fleet aged. The variable sweeping wings added complexity to its maintenance and reduced readiness. I read somewhere that 6 hours of ground maintenance was needed for every hour in the air on average.

ouch, well hopefully we have something that can fill that void soon. Or maybe a phoniex style missile? i heard they are developing a long range AIM-120
 
They don't really need to do the kind of dick measuring the American gov't does because their domestic situation isn't a complete disaster like the one in America is.
 
ouch, well hopefully we have something that can fill that void soon. Or maybe a phoniex style missile? i heard they are developing a long range AIM-120
Nope, that capability is gone. It's not just about the long range missiles. The thing that made F-14 special was that it could fly longer and faster with more payload than F-18. You could say it was the last true fighter the US navy had. It extended the fleet's air defence range significantly. Quite a few Tomcat pilots basically rage quit the navy when the decision was made to retired the plane. You would have to go back to the drawing board for a new design to get that capability back, which simply isn't possible due to tight budget.
 
Nope, that capability is gone. It's not just about the long range missiles. The thing that made F-14 special was that it could fly longer and faster with more payload than F-18. You could say it was the last true fighter the US navy had. It extended the fleet's air defence range significantly. Quite a few Tomcat pilots basically rage quit the navy when the decision was made to retired the plane. You would have to go back to the drawing board for a new design to get that capability back, which simply isn't possible due to tight budget.

The A-12 was suppose to be that plane, that flopped. Northrop and lockheed pitched a F-22N and a YF-23N which never happened. i find it really stupid that we cut the one plane that gave us that advantage at sea. And i see it as a necessary need for blue water defense.
 
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