Urine Trouble (Mueller Thread v. 16)

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Darkballs said:
Apparently, this agent entrapped them for the crime of "having stolen property." According to bob. The fact that they were never charged with this crime, hasn't stopped bob from telling us just how bad they were entrapped and how damning this is to the Obama administration.
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Not just stolen property, but stolen CLASSIFIED property
 
Darkballs said:
Apparently, this agent entrapped them for the crime of "having stolen property." According to bob. The fact that they were never charged with this crime, hasn't stopped bob from telling us just how bad they were entrapped and how damning this is to the Obama administration.
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What about those text messages where they called Trump an imbecile?
 
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HockeyBjj said:
Huh. So it really is guilty until proven innocent to you
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Not at all. It's me acknowledging tRUmp could very well be caught up in investigation while tRUmptards want to insist the investigation is over and tRUmp is already absolved of any wrongdoing
 
Darkballs said:
So you still think they entrapped them into committing a crime that no one else has argued they committed?
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You can’t be this stupid, I refuse to believe it. Who is them? I’ve never said anything about “them”. This is about a single member of the trump campaign.

They attempted to set him up for entrapment.
 
bobgeese said:
They attempted to set him up for entrapment.
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You don't set someone up for entrapment. Entrapment is an affirmative defense that you use for a specific crime. You plead that, while I did commit all elements of the crime, I was entrapped into doing so. I've never heard of someone raising an affirmative defense for a crime that hasn't been charged, or to cry about potential entrapment for a crime they were not charged with.

And of course that's presuming your entire claim of entrapment is even valid, and it fails in the face of all evidence we have. Papadopoulos ran his mouth to an Australian diplomat about Russians reaching out, then lied about it under oath. Said diplomat contact US intelligence (like a good ally should) and the investigation was launched into whether or not members of the Trump campaign were targets, or had been compromised by foreign intelligence. Turns out, a shit ton of them were, had committed various crimes along the way, and lied about it under penalty of perjury many times. None of them were entrapped into doing any of those things. And despite how many times you try to mischaracterize this as "spying" or any other right wing term of the week, you cannot demonstrate how this entire process has been anything other than above board.

Your claim that one man was entrapped, for a crime he was never charged with (kinda a big part of entrapping someone, in fact, you can't even raise it as a defense unless you are charged), is just retarded and fits nowhere in any sensible discussion.
 
Darkballs said:
You don't set someone up for entrapment. Entrapment is an affirmative defense that you use for a specific crime. You plead that, while I did commit all elements of the crime, I was entrapped into doing so. I've never heard of someone raising an affirmative defense for a crime that hasn't been charged, or to cry about potential entrapment for a crime they were not charged with.

And of course that's presuming your entire claim of entrapment is even valid, and it fails in the face of all evidence we have. Papadopoulos ran his mouth to an Australian diplomat about Russians reaching out, then lied about it under oath. Said diplomat contact US intelligence (like a good ally should) and the investigation was launched into whether or not members of the Trump campaign were targets, or had been compromised by foreign intelligence. Turns out, a shit ton of them were, had committed various crimes along the way, and lied about it under penalty of perjury many times. None of them were entrapped into doing any of those things. And despite how many times you try to mischaracterize this as "spying" or any other right wing term of the week, you cannot demonstrate how this entire process has been anything other than above board.

Your claim that one man was entrapped, for a crime he was never charged with (kinda a big part of entrapping someone, in fact, you can't even raise it as a defense unless you are charged), is just retarded and fits nowhere in any sensible discussion.
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You are doing gods work here.
 
Darkballs said:
You don't set someone up for entrapment. Entrapment is an affirmative defense that you use for a specific crime. You plead that, while I did commit all elements of the crime, I was entrapped into doing so. I've never heard of someone raising an affirmative defense for a crime that hasn't been charged, or to cry about potential entrapment for a crime they were not charged with.

And of course that's presuming your entire claim of entrapment is even valid, and it fails in the face of all evidence we have. Papadopoulos ran his mouth to an Australian diplomat about Russians reaching out, then lied about it under oath. Said diplomat contact US intelligence (like a good ally should) and the investigation was launched into whether or not members of the Trump campaign were targets, or had been compromised by foreign intelligence. Turns out, a shit ton of them were, had committed various crimes along the way, and lied about it under penalty of perjury many times. None of them were entrapped into doing any of those things. And despite how many times you try to mischaracterize this as "spying" or any other right wing term of the week, you cannot demonstrate how this entire process has been anything other than above board.

Your claim that one man was entrapped, for a crime he was never charged with (kinda a big part of entrapping someone, in fact, you can't even raise it as a defense unless you are charged), is just retarded and fits nowhere in any sensible discussion.
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You need to check your timeline son, they started spying on trumps campaign BEFORE the Australian communicated with the US.

And again, you’ve gone full potato. They tried and failed to set him up. I have pointed out numerous times now that they attempted to set him up, which demonstrates my claim of misconduct by the leadership in the obama administration.


It’s also notable how you didn’t address a single thing in the half hour worth of evidence I presented you.
 
Quequeg said:
You are doing gods work here.
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He’s really not. He refuses to actually address my points, instead he tries twisting what I’m saying into ridiculous claims. It’s a common third rate debate technique used when presented with facts and you have no answers.
 
bobgeese said:
He’s really not. He refuses to actually address my points, instead he tries twisting what I’m saying into ridiculous claims. It’s a common third rate debate technique used when presented with facts and you have no answers.
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Bob, you have proven yourself both dishonest and delusional countless times.
 
bobgeese said:
He’s really not. He refuses to actually address my points, instead he tries twisting what I’m saying into ridiculous claims. It’s a common third rate debate technique used when presented with facts and you have no answers.
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Like how you never address why everyone lied about the meeting in Trump Towers.
If it is a nothing burger, why all the lying burgers.
 
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