Urine Trouble (Mueller Thread v. 16)

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But if he's not a spy why will agents possibly die if his names released

Also, there may be more than 1 spy

I don't think anyone will die, and I don't think he's a spy. I don't think you should disclose informant's identities in ongoing criminal investigations unless necessary. This, as a policy to not fuck over that current informant, and to not discourage future informants as well.

I'm not sure what the issue is though. He's already been outed. It won't come to anything other than republicans trying to play six degrees of Obama with him.
 
So in your head using intelligence agencies to spy or attempt to spy on an opposition campaign BEFORE an investigation is not abuse

I never said anyone spied on anyone. Those are the derp squad terms.
 
I don't think anyone will die, and I don't think he's a spy. I don't think you should disclose informant's identities in ongoing criminal investigations unless necessary. This, as a policy to not fuck over that current informant, and to not discourage future informants as well.

I'm not sure what the issue is though. He's already been outed. It won't come to anything other than republicans trying to play six degrees of Obama with him.

There is actually talk there are more than one spy.

An informant would be someone already in the organization. These were plants. This was spying

Again, are u ok with government agencies spying on presidential campaigns before investigations are opened?
 
I never said anyone spied on anyone. Those are the derp squad terms.

Remember when u guys also said there was no surveillance. Remember when u guys said The Dossier was not paid by Hillary. Remember when u guys said there was no unmasking.

So if the agencies admit there was indeed spying would u at least at that point give in?
 
Nothing to see here folks, just more coincidences...


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He's not a spy but Clapper says he was spying to help Trump

He's not a spy but releasing his name would endanger other spies lives


You can't make this stuff up
 
So they were doing lawful opposition research, but decided to commit perjury to hide it, and your defense is that they're amateur politicians. Well, we'll see how that holds up in court.

Politicians lie? OMG!!

Like how the DNC and Clinton campaign were honest about the Dossier
 
Are you guys seriously saying coordinating with a foreign entity for stolen information on a political opponent in exchange for political favors is the same as opposition research?

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There is actually talk there are more than one spy.

Huge if true.

Again, are u ok with government agencies spying on presidential campaigns before investigations are opened?

I'm fine with investigations justified by intelligence that warrants them. Official start dates to an investigation is some legal fiction that means nothing to me or our justice system.

Politicians lie? OMG!!

And when they do so under oath, they've broken the law.

Like how the DNC and Clinton campaign were honest about the Dossier

Nice to throw in a "but hilary" every once in awhile. Doesn't have anything to do with this, but you gotta stay in practice.

Remember when u guys also said there was no surveillance.

No. I remember when Trump said that Obama tapped his phones, and we all laughed at that because it was retarded. No one ever claimed that there wasn't an investigation into the trump campaign, that could include, surveillance.

Remember when u guys said The Dossier was not paid by Hillary.

No. I remember when trumptards tried to say that the DNC paying for a copy of the Steele Dossier was a big scandal, people reminded them that the dossier was compiled by, and first paid for by, Republicans.

Remember when u guys said there was no unmasking.

No. I remember when we said it would amount to jack shit, and have been proven right.

So if the agencies admit there was indeed spying would u at least at that point give in?

No. Call it spying all you want, but there was clearly enough actual intelligence to warrant an investigation. Proven, by the fact that this investigation has borne fruit that you have denied and swore would never happen every step of the way.

You aren't worried about actual criminal conduct, even that which people have pled guilty to, dismissing it all as "all politicians lie" or some other cheap equivocation. The goal of this shitty spying and entrapment argument you're peddling is to undermine an investigation that you know will damage your partisan beliefs. The same way you tried with Unmaskgate, Mueller's a secret democrat, the steel dossier was in the warrant request, and countless other nothingburgers that never address the subject of the investigation. You only pray it goes away.
 
Are you guys seriously saying coordinating with a foreign entity for stolen information on a political opponent in exchange for political favors is the same as opposition research?

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I think one of bob's most successful strategies is that he throws in so much bullshit and outright untruths that you end up moving past most of it just to keep the conversation going.
 
Huge if true.



I'm fine with investigations justified by intelligence that warrants them. Official start dates to an investigation is some legal fiction that means nothing to me or our justice system.



And when they do so under oath, they've broken the law.



Nice to throw in a "but hilary" every once in awhile. Doesn't have anything to do with this, but you gotta stay in practice.



No. I remember when Trump said that Obama tapped his phones, and we all laughed at that because it was retarded. No one ever claimed that there wasn't an investigation into the trump campaign, that could include, surveillance.



No. I remember when trumptards tried to say that the DNC paying for a copy of the Steele Dossier was a big scandal, people reminded them that the dossier was compiled by, and first paid for by, Republicans.



No. I remember when we said it would amount to jack shit, and have been proven right.



No. Call it spying all you want, but there was clearly enough actual intelligence to warrant an investigation. Proven, by the fact that this investigation has borne fruit that you have denied and swore would never happen every step of the way.

You aren't worried about actual criminal conduct, even that which people have pled guilty to, dismissing it all as "all politicians lie" or some other cheap equivocation. The goal of this shitty spying and entrapment argument you're peddling is to undermine an investigation that you know will damage your partisan beliefs. The same way you tried with Unmaskgate, Mueller's a secret democrat, the steel dossier was in the warrant request, and countless other nothingburgers that never address the subject of the investigation. You only pray it goes away.

You really are starting to post some very dishonest posts considering what we know.

I'll just point to 1. You saying a COPY of the dossier. The Dossier from what we know was NEVER funded before the DNC. Steele was brought on After the DNC took over.

It's hard to engage if u are going to post things we know are wrong

Also. It wasn't just phone tapping. Several Obama officials said there was no surveillance

As for unmasking. If everyone said it didn't matter why did Lynch lie about the unmasking

Lol at u saying I don't care. Just LOL! I'm on record for saying Trump should be removed from office if he knew what Cohen was doing. Only 1 of us is blindly defending 1 side

So now that u know what it takes for me to want Trump impeached. What exactly would it take for u to think the intelligence agencies were up to no good? Seriously, is there anything?
 
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There was absolutely nothing wrong with the Trump Tower meeting. It’s opposition research. Just like democrats paying for Russian propaganda in the Steel dossier.

It’s what they did with the dossier and the fisa court that makes it a scandal.


I’ve been wrong maybe 7 times in the whole time I’ve posted here.
AND still did not address why everyone felt the need to lie about it.
 
I haven't seen a besmirching like this since the, "Mrs. Flying Burrito" thread.

Devastating.
 
I think one of bob's most successful strategies is that he throws in so much bullshit and outright untruths that you end up moving past most of it just to keep the conversation going.

You saying he's dishonest? You clearly lied in your last post saying the Dossier was funded by republicans. It's completely untrue
 
Then why does everyone at the meeting keep lying about who was there and what was discussed? And it wasn't opposition research. That isn't even the bullshit excuse the administration was making. They claim that the meeting was to discuss Russian adoptions and how they relate to sanctions.

At least use the correct lie.
"It was a short introductory meeting, I asked Jared and Paul to stop by. We primarily discussed a program about the adoption of Russian children that was active and popular with American families years ago and was since ended by the Russian government ... it was not a big issue with the campaign at the time so there was no follow-up.."

I think that was among the first lies. Who knows what the count is now
 
Because it looked bad. Just like the Dossier did. So both sides lied
So they lied just that one time, but everything else anyone associated with Trump has said is now the truth. Got it.
 
So they lied just that one time, but everything else anyone associated with Trump has said is now the truth. Got it.

Nope. I'm sure plenty have lied. What's your point?

Why did the Clinton campaign and DNC lie about the Dossier? Does it mean it was illegal because they lied about it?
 
Nope. I'm sure plenty have lied. What's your point?

Why did the Clinton campaign and DNC lie about the Dossier? Does it mean it was illegal because they lied about it?

Clinton lost get over it.
Not only did they lie about it, but have multiple different lies about the meeting.
 
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