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Picture this:

A fat, unshaven man in his mid 60's with beer stains dried on his yellow vest. He sees you and your friends watching The UFC as it's broadcast from the huge screen in the sports bar. He slurps on his beer before slurring "I used to be an MMA fighter. I beat the greatest!". You and your friends laugh. "Okay buddy. Can you be quiet? We're trying to watch". He slumps over on the counter, deathly drunk, only to be escorted out by the bouncers.

A likely tale. But one that may be sneakily true.

This is a list of fighters who have beaten the some of the best, but may never be known beyond searching MMA records.


Erica Paes - knee-barred the young, aggressive Cyborg 20 years ago this month! Probably not fat, unshaven, nor balding but never-the-less was the first set-back for a woman most consider a contender for WMMA GOAT. Erica went into MMA obscurity with a 3-2 record but has this story to tell any woman who will listen.

Luciano Azevedo - before Conor came along to spoil the party, Jose Aldo, considered one of the GOATs of Featherweight and a deadly force, was also stopped. Incidentally, also 20 years ago. Luciano finished Jose with a RNC. They were both 8 fights deep into their career and though you may never have heard of Luciano, he has also had a few more discreet wins. Din Thomas. Abdul Mohammed. Jean Silva. Now 43 years old, judging by his Sherdog profile picture, I'd guess he probably is bald but unlikely to be fat.

Alexander Otsuka - no surprise to Hardcore fans or MMA historians but still, a surprise in its own right. In the 90's, Marco Ruas was considered a very dangerous man. "The King of the Streets" had been in MMA fights since the 80's and showed he was a step above the rest by being a legitimate Mixed Martial Artist, winning UFC 7.
However, other than a decision loss to Taktarov, he was expected to walk through Otsuka at Pride 4. Otsuka survived Ruas's onslaught, turned the tide and Ruas wasn't capable of coming back out for the final round, resulting in a TKO corner stoppage. Otsuka is now mid 50's. Probably still bald and though known as "the diet butcher", I'm going to assume will be marginally overweight, drinking saki in the bar. He went on to have a 5-13 record with losses to Renzo, Igor, Ken Shamrock, Mezger, Rampage, Wandy, Spider, and Ninja Rua.


Do you have any others? I've left a ton of room for multiple fighters.

This list can be endlessly added to as time goes on.
 
There's a million dudes you'd never expect to be killers but are. One of my old coaches was this Italian American dude from Jersey, maybe 5'10, he was fat jacked but in clothes you couldn't tell, mid to late 40s, balding. He was a Junior Olympian in Boxing from his youth, had trained under guys like Gokor and Bas extensively, had a handful of fights, master in Sambo etc. I know a kid that trains with Joey Beltran, some lanky semi athletic 23 year old from the midwest that has a couple amateur fights and completed buds to be a Navy Seal, he used to come into a club I managed to watch the fights when we had them on. These people exist, imagine Enson Inoue...chubby, bald, old...dude beat Couture. Look at Joe Rogan, if I didn't know who he was I'd laugh and think he's some short pussy over compensating that I'd stomp into the ground.

You never know, and the not knowing is the worst part. You get into a confrontation with some small guy like at that baseball game where the big black dude was trying to fight this small Hispanic dude and the Hispanic dude turned out to be some elite pro boxer...you fuck around like that, even if you could have a chance in a consensual fight due to size your guard is down and you're unaware, takes a dude like Tank Davis 0.5 seconds to sleep so big aggressive dude running his mouth with a false sense of security.
 
Picture this:

A fat, unshaven man in his mid 60's with beer stains dried on his yellow vest. He sees you and your friends watching The UFC as it's broadcast from the huge screen in the sports bar. He slurps on his beer before slurring "I used to be an MMA fighter. I beat the greatest!". You and your friends laugh. "Okay buddy. Can you be quiet? We're trying to watch". He slumps over on the counter, deathly drunk, only to be escorted out by the bouncers.

A likely tale. But one that may be sneakily true.

This is a list of fighters who have beaten the some of the best, but may never be known beyond searching MMA records.


Erica Paes - knee-barred the young, aggressive Cyborg 20 years ago this month! Probably not fat, unshaven, nor balding but never-the-less was the first set-back for a woman most consider a contender for WMMA GOAT. Erica went into MMA obscurity with a 3-2 record but has this story to tell any woman who will listen.

Luciano Azevedo - before Conor came along to spoil the party, Jose Aldo, considered one of the GOATs of Featherweight and a deadly force, was also stopped. Incidentally, also 20 years ago. Luciano finished Jose with a RNC. They were both 8 fights deep into their career and though you may never have heard of Luciano, he has also had a few more discreet wins. Din Thomas. Abdul Mohammed. Jean Silva. Now 43 years old, judging by his Sherdog profile picture, I'd guess he probably is bald but unlikely to be fat.

Alexander Otsuka - no surprise to Hardcore fans or MMA historians but still, a surprise in its own right. In the 90's, Marco Ruas was considered a very dangerous man. "The King of the Streets" had been in MMA fights since the 80's and showed he was a step above the rest by being a legitimate Mixed Martial Artist, winning UFC 7.
However, other than a decision loss to Taktarov, he was expected to walk through Otsuka at Pride 4. Otsuka survived Ruas's onslaught, turned the tide and Ruas wasn't capable of coming back out for the final round, resulting in a TKO corner stoppage. Otsuka is now mid 50's. Probably still bald and though known as "the diet butcher", I'm going to assume will be marginally overweight, drinking saki in the bar. He went on to have a 5-13 record with losses to Renzo, Igor, Ken Shamrock, Mezger, Rampage, Wandy, Spider, and Ninja Rua.


Do you have any others? I've left a ton of room for multiple fighters.

This list can be endlessly added to as time goes on.
Paes tried to get her career going. She took a big layoff trying to get opportunities in other areas... Like singing.
She then tried MMA again, even joining X-Gym (Anderson Silva's former team) for training. She took a beating from Bethe Correa (yeah, she twerked after the win) and faded into obscurity again. She appeared in some random TV stuff in Brazil again for a time (she choked unconscious a reporter trying MMA) but that was it.

Otsuka is a legend. From submitting a guy with a double armbar to being literally set to die against the most bizarre murderers row a fighter may ever faced....
 
Paes tried to get her career going. She took a big layoff trying to get opportunities in other areas... Like singing.
She then tried MMA again, even joining X-Gym (Anderson Silva's former team) for training. She took a beating from Bethe Correa (yeah, she twerked after the win) and faded into obscurity again. She appeared in some random TV stuff in Brazil again for a time (she choked unconscious a reporter trying MMA) but that was it.

Otsuka is a legend. From submitting a guy with a double armbar to being literally set to die against the most bizarre murderers row a fighter may ever faced....
I think even broke his jaw. Read here long ass time ago that they fought because of a woman, something like Benji stole his GF or something
 
I think even broke his jaw. Read here long ass time ago that they fought because of a woman, something like Benji stole his GF or something
Yeah. That's what I'd read. Dude avoided a rematch like the plague for obvious reasons.
 
Izzy is gonna be sitting at a bar one day watching Alex on the telly telling anyone that will listen "I beat that guy once"
 
Sean "Big Sexy" McCorkle also known as "The Curtain Jerker" and "The Hater" was a notorious super heavyweight 6'7" 320lb MMA forum troll in the early 2000s, claiming he would be able to beat the shit out of most fighters constantly.
He then started training and within his first year in the gym, went pro, beat up a bunch of cans and journeymen in the regionals and trolled his way to a UFC contract.
He was given Mark Hunt in his UFC debut in his hometown, probably in an effort to knock him unconscious and shut him up, but he subbed Mark instead after having to cut to 265lbs "for the first time since I [McCorkle] was 18."
He then lost to Stefan Struve and Christian "World of" Morecraft before going back to the regionals, winning 6 in a row, then going 1-5 in his last 6.
In recent years, he pops up on the internet from time to time to troll, most recently spreading some Brendan Schaub hate.

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He is known for his review of Matt Hughes' autobiography

McCorkle is one of my favorite characters to have come and gone in the sport, he was a great part of The UG when it didn't suck.
 
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Never met an undercover MMA killer's killer.
Met Scott Hall at the bar the night of the iron sheik incident and I used to drink with Gordon Ryan's dad at that same bar
 
I guess I should add in:

Aldin Bates - currently a 9-3 (seemingly) active fighter from England. Certainly not a name that stands out for the casual fan but then a 2-0 prospect matched up against debutant Jack Della Maddalena.
Of course, Jack is about to fight for gold but 9 years ago he was stopped in the 3rd round by Aldin. Never-the-less, Jack levelled things 4 years later, flattening Aldin in the first. Thereafter, Jack stepped into Dana White's contenders and now we await to see if Aldin was the first destroyer of an upcoming champion.
 
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