Crime United Healthcare CEO assassinated in NYC

[Cajun]

Idk how anyone can watch the video of man being gunned down in the street and think this was a good thing.

Not even saying people can't engage in some dark humor. There were many such jokes about the rich guy who died in the submersible or the other one who was killed by orcas, its fine to have some space for that. But once we're past the jokes and you're seriously talking about how this was good or some expected outcome of our healthcare system you've lost me. A father of two was gunned down on video. Not sure how old his kids are but at some point they are likely to see the video and the thought of that breaks my heart.

Agreed.

 

[IDGETKTFO]

 

[terrapin]

Nah man, CEO's carry A LOT of favor in this system and he was the CEO of one of the biggest. Whenever you make a concentrated effort to reduce people to numbers on a spreadsheet KNOWING it leads to a percentage of deaths, and there's no distinct "greater good" aspect of it like in public health, and far far less accountability.

I have to agree with this. It seems that for some no person is culpable in any way. It's just the system's fault and that is absolutely not true. The system has authors and designers and CEOs are top among them.

They are culpable for every single bit of harm they cause.

 

[scoopj]

Nah man, CEO's carry A LOT of favor in this system and he was the CEO of one of the biggest. Whenever you make a concentrated effort to reduce people to numbers on a spreadsheet KNOWING it leads to a percentage of deaths, and there's no distinct "greater good" aspect of it like in public health, and far far less accountability.

See, you’re supporting my argument that those on the left are more accepting of this murder. This has been interesting.

 

[Sinister]

What do you mean nobody talks about that? The internet has been gloating about this man's death precisely because of that angle.

You can say lots of people are also dead because of defense contractors, would you feel the same if a defense contractor was gunned down this way? How about a senior engineer who works for a defense contractor?

Wouldn't feel sorry for any of those, either. They're inarguably making the world a worse place. And they bank on the "it's just human nature" philosophy to desensitize the fact that they profit off of conflict, and have kept Countries in conflict for that purpose.

 

[Sinister]

See, you’re supporting my argument that those on the left are more accepting of this murder. This has been interesting.

The right (and centrists) are only not because it upsets the heirarchy. If this guy was a Mafia Don (which he is, just one that operates in quasi-legal spaces) they would celebrate it just as much

 

[scoopj]

HELL NO!!! Under that kind of logic you absolve everyone working for the system of all responsibility for what the system does.

There is no meaningful difference between what you just wrote and the "I was just following orders" of the Nuremberg Trials.

Even worse in this case, because this guy chose to work for this system, climbed his way to the top, and then started giving the orders himself.

Yikes! When you put it that way! Ok, so you support this guy’s murder. Got it.

And I’m curious which pristine, sinless company you work for? LMFAO

 

[scoopj]

Thats the same fallacy as when people say "they" "the media" or "the government ."
There is no such thing as some type of autonomous system
or some grand overarching conspiracy.

Bad policy, bad decisions, bad laws, bad programs, bad organizations & disinformation are all due to human beings implementing bad ideas & or stupid ideas/processes.
Its a legit human element first & foremost.

Another one that supports the murder of the ceo. Some real characters here.

Don’t hate the player hate the game.

 

[ColemanwastheGOAT]

I have to agree with this. It seems that for some no person is culpable in any way. It's just the system's fault and that is absolutely not true. The system has authors and designers and CEOs are top among them.

They are culpable for every single bit of harm they cause.

All criminals are.

 

[terrapin]

All criminals are.

Agree totally.

 

[scoopj]

I have already said the same thing. That's why I think your generalisation is... well, let's call it unproductive and leave it at that.

I’m honestly not getting your point. You already said what? Because I said earlier I didn’t know your position but when I asked you said it’s not for you to judge if it was wrong to murder him.

 

[scoopj]

The right (and centrists) are only not because it upsets the heirarchy. If this guy was a Mafia Don (which he is, just one that operates in quasi-legal spaces) they would celebrate it just as much

Ok my wife is giving me shit because I’m on my phone so I’m just going to say good night everyone. Wish me luck fellas.

 

[Andy Capp]

I’m honestly not getting your point. You already said what? Because I said earlier I didn’t know your position but when I asked you said it’s not for you to judge if it was wrong to murder him.

I'm sorry for your poor reading comprehension. Tomorrow when I have more time I'll see if I can clear it up for you.

 

[HOLA]

Yeah, I just saw the article on this. This story is some bizarre shit.

 

[HOLA]

The right (and centrists) are only not because it upsets the heirarchy. If this guy was a Mafia Don (which he is, just one that operates in quasi-legal spaces) they would celebrate it just as much

One of those QANON nuts actually did kill a mafia don.

Man who shot mob boss Francesco 'Franky Boy' Cali believed in QAnon, thought he had Trump's 'full support': Court docs

The defense team representing Anthony Comello detailed his alleged obsession with conspiracy theories in new court documents and have questioned his mental capabilities.

abcnews.go.com

The man who is accused of fatally shooting a New York City mob boss in a brazen crime that shocked observers and the law enforcement community allegedly thought he had the protection of President Trump and was trying to arrest the mob boss as part of a battle against the "Deep State," new court documents claim.

Anthony Comello is charged with the murder of Francesco "Franky Boy" Cali, the reputed head of the infamous Gambino crime family.

Authorities initially feared a possible mob war in the wake of Cali's shooting death in March, but later Comello, who has no known mob ties, was identified as the suspect. He has entered a not guilty plea to murder and weapons possession charges.

In new court documents submitted Friday, Comello's defense attorney details how his client -- who he is arguing suffers from mental defect -- allegedly was a believer in the "conspiratorial fringe right-wing political group" QAnon.

 

[Ruprecht]

Seems like a predictable outcome of a healthcare system focused on profit versus outcomes and quality of care.
Pretty risible that the corporate obituary would say, "He was a person with a deep sense of empathy and clear passion for improving access to care."
Given the profits in denying coverage for claims and the impact that has, I'm not at all surprised he had a security detail already. Just surprised it was so lax.

 

[HOLA]

See, you’re supporting my argument that those on the left are more accepting of this murder. This has been interesting.

The main group of people that seem to be most offended are the ultra-wealthy.
Normal Americans get gunned down every day, and all we get is thoughts and prayers. POTUS Trump even says "we need to get over it."

But suddenly some rich shmuck gets gunned down and the sky is falling. Turns out rich people getting whacked is VERY offensive to other ultra-wealthy people.

 

[IDGETKTFO]

Yeah, I just saw the article on this. This story is some bizarre shit.

Very fitting considering UHC is a Monopoly.

 

[WklySportsMemes]

Another one that supports the murder of the ceo. Some real characters here.

Don’t hate the player hate the game.

You are illiterate & can't understand simple concepts.
Dummy, I literally posted how I dont condone it posts above.
Where did you get that baseless allegation from ???lol

Sit this one out sport. Grown folks are talking.

 

[terrapin]

You are illiterate & can't understand simple concepts.
Dummy, I literally posted how I dont condone it posts above.
Where did you get that baseless allegation from ???lol

Sit this one out sport. Grown folks are talking.

That guy did the same thing with me. I specifically said I don't condone it and then he condemned me for condoning it...