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Law UK to scrap trial by jury

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In one of the biggest assaults on the fabric of English and British civil society, the Labour government and MP David Lammy are attempting to scrap trial by jury in all but the most serious cases.


Currently all offences within the UK are classified as either Summary only, Either Way or Indictable only. A summary only offence is basically very low level crime such as traffic offences etc. These are heard at Magistrates court, where you are judged by a Magistrate.

Indictable only offences are the most serious and relate to rape, murder, terrorism etc. These are heard in Crown Courts and the case is overseen by a judge with a 12 person jury standing in judgement should the person plead not guilty.

Either way offences cover the vast majority of crimes and can be heard at either Magistrates or Crown Court - depending on the expected length of prison time if found guilty. 6 months or less - Magistrates. More than 6 months - Crown. At the time of charge, the CPS reviewing lawyer can decide if it's S, EW or I based on their personal opinion of the likely prison term.

Someone can be charged with an Either way offence and plead not guilty at Magistrates Court. They are then referred to the Crown Court

If a case is referred to the Crown Court, the person who plead not guilty will be automatically allowed a jury trial

Labour plan to scrap this and only offer jury trials for indictable only offences where the expected prison term is more than 3 years. This means that a reviewing lawyer can block a jury trial for anyone who they assess may only receive less than 3 years. This cuts out the public having the power to decide on cases that involve child sex offenders (who are currently receiving less than 3 years) and people who post anti migrant social media posts.

This hands complete power to a theoretical policitized judge who wants to punish right wing agitators but release sex offenders and foreign criminal.

This is the brain child of MP David Lammy, who has been referred to as the lowest IQ politician in the country. He argues this is to clear the backlog of court cases currently clogging up the British legal system, a backlog caused by the previous governments shutting down of society for COVID.

Needless to say my opinion is that this is the most naked move towards a totalitarian state I have seen in my lifetime. Jury trials were established in the 11th century of a way of communities policing themselves before being formalised in Magna carta. They are the one thing preventing complete state oppression in the UK.
 
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In one of the biggest assaults on the fabric of English and British civil society, the Labour government and MP David Lammy are attempting to scrap trial by jury in all but the most serious cases.


Currently all offences within the UK are classified as either Summary only, Either Way or Indictable only. A summary only offence is basically very low level crime such as traffic offences etc. These are heard of Magistrates court, where you are judged by a Magistrate.

Indictable only offences are the most serious and relates to rape, murder, terrorism etc. These are heard in Crown Courts and the case is overseen by a judge with a 12 person jury standing in judgement should the person plead not guilty.

Either way offences cover the vast majority of crimes and can be heard at either Magistrates or Crown Court - depending on the expected length of prison time if found guilty. 6 months or less - Magistrates. More than 6 months - Crown. At the time of charge, the CPS reviewing lawyer decides if it's S, EW or I based on their personal opinion of the likely prison term.

If a case is referred to the Crown Court, the person can plead not guilty and be automatically judged by a jury.

Labour plan to scrap this and only offer jury trials for indictable only offences where the expected prison term is more than 3 years. What this means is that a reviewing lawyer can block a jury trial for anyone who they assess may only receive less than 3 years. This cuts out the public having the power to decide on cases that involve child sex offenders (who are currently receiving less than 3 years) and people who post anti migrant social media posts.

This hands complete power to a theoretical policitized judge who wants to punish right wing agitators but release sex offenders and foreign criminal.

This is the brain child of MP David Lammy, who has been referred to as the lowest IQ politician in the country. He argues this is to clear the backlog of court cases currently clogging up the British legal system, a backlog caused by the previous governments shutting down of society for COVID.

Needless to say my opinion is that this is the most naked move towards a totalitarian state I have seen in my lifetime. Jury trials were established in the 11th century of a way of communities policing themselves before being formalised in Magna carta. They are the one thing preventing complete state oppression in the UK.




Yeah, and this got minimal coverage in the media, too. This is a fucking huge deal, and it definitely feels extremely ominous on face value.
 
Yeah, and this got minimal coverage in the media, too. This is a fucking huge deal, and it definitely feels extremely ominous on face value.
It's difficult to overstate how catastrophic this will be to civil liberties, regardless of which side of the political bench you sit

The worst bit is the man on the Clapham Omnibus probably doesn't understand it's consequences either. sleepwalking into tyranny
 
England deserves what it gets for all the crimes against humanity that its ruling class has committed.

The simple folks deserve what they get for allowing that ruling class to exist.

P.s. I do have compassion for the simple folk of England.
 
England deserves what it gets for all the crimes against humanity that its ruling class has committed.

The simple folks deserve what they get for allowing that ruling class to exist.

P.s. I do have compassion for the simple folk of England.

For how many generations should people pay for the crimes of their ancestors? Is this a forever thing or where is the cutoff?
 
Oh... what could go wrong?

It's not like they will lock you up for social media posts or praying to Jesus in public.

The thing is these seemingly "mild" clampdowns were always heading in the same direction. Death by a thousand cuts. The eventual goal was always a Chinese style social credit system where criticism of the state means punishment, imprisonment or worse. This means any mother whose 6yr old daughter is raped by an immigrant and goes online to publicise the horror and call out the government who allowed it to happen is immediately thrown in jail without a real trial. Its a deterrent. Allow us to do what you we are doing and accept the horrors or disappear. It is very frightening. And the left seem to be aware of this too, which is interesting because it was the left that encouraged thought crime and charging people for bad words. Good luck tweeting about how much you hate politicians now guys. Thanks.


For how many generations should people pay for the crimes of their ancestors? Is this a forever thing or where is the cutoff?


Forever. Its a religion. Its original sin that can never be erased. Voiced by atheists.
 
The thing is these seemingly "mild" clampdowns were always heading in the same direction. Death by a thousand cuts. The eventual goal was always a Chinese style social credit system where criticism of the state means punishment, imprisonment or worse. This means any mother whose 6yr old daughter is raped by an immigrant and goes online to publicise the horror and call out the government who allowed it to happen is immediately thrown in jail without a real trial. Its a deterrent. Allow us to do what you we are doing and accept the horrors or disappear. It is very frightening. And the left seem to be aware of this too, which is interesting because it was the left that encouraged thought crime and charging people for bad words. Good luck tweeting about how much you hate politicians now guys. Thanks.





Forever. Its a religion. Its original sin that can never be erased. Voiced by atheists.

I mean I'm an atheist and I obviously think it's bullshit I just like to try some sort of clarity out of people like him. Like when do people get to stop paying? Do they get credits for good things done by the English as well? Could we get some sort of ledger where we can see how many good things need to be done before they're back in the black
 
Liberal white woman are the biggest threat to western society.


Yeah Staph, just blame those white people, GFY.

You KNOW that lie isn't even close to true, good try. Soros is sure to repay your lies, if he hasn't already.

The UK's BS "laws/policies", just like USA Sanctuary City Profiteering scumbags laugh while aiding that Parroted NWO Divide N Conquer ploy.

Once again Staph, it's NOT always those white people, GFY.

1984 coming at ya, UK

1984 is aready there Stoic, George Orwell's prophetic quotes resonate constantly, repeating the Deep State scumbags of gaytes / Fow-chee MRNA Corona Virus Identification implants for human destruction.
"The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation has been involved in discussions about COVID-19 vaccine patents, advocating for equitable access to vaccines. However, specific patents related to coronavirus identification are primarily held by organizations like the CDC, which has filed several patents since 1999."

$hit, my bad for mentioning the Plandemic. That's their last, yet long forgotten, depopulation tactic. Wanna keep your job? Wanna ever leave your home OR get a job? Take the jab.

Don't you care about the children?

The most recent UK chip discussion- mandatory...to survive.
 
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they should do away with trial by judge and trial by jury and simply have trial by combat.

it would make people think twice about not paying their child support, parking in a handicapped spot, not returning their library books, or not signaling for lane changes.

it would also sell pay per views. i don't know about you guys but i fancy me a nice public execution alongside my nachos and beer.
 
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