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International UK Government wins court case to block its population from accessing Wikipedia

"authoritarian shit show."

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New Bill Could Ban Pornography Across US​


Porn ban mapped: Pornhub now blocks visitors in a third of US states​



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Anything resembling censorship is going to meet a lot of resistance over here. But yeah, our government is shit too
 
Anything resembling censorship is going to meet a lot of resistance over here. But yeah, our government is shit too
Sherbro-


Its happening now


Pornhub Is Now Blocked In Almost All of the U.S. South​

Age Verification in the US​


We continue to block access to Pornhub in more states that have passed age verification laws.




We're just complicit with it.

Before you know it, well have the military at bay to kick down doors for porn.
Cracking down on "crime"
 
Sherbro-


Its happening now


Pornhub Is Now Blocked In Almost All of the U.S. South​

Age Verification in the US​


We continue to block access to Pornhub in more states that have passed age verification laws.




We're just complicit with it.

Before you know it, well have the military at bay to kick down doors for porn.
Cracking down on "crime"
These are state laws, not federal. Not good, but still. It's a very far cry from needing to show ID to go online in general. And there are tons more porn sites than pornhub, so it's not like its a really effective measure.
 
What kind of leftist Karen woke nonsense state would try to limit the access of 7 year olds to their right to see a donkey anally fuck a barely legal teen?

Worse than Hitler and Stalin.
 
Sherbro-


Its happening now


Pornhub Is Now Blocked In Almost All of the U.S. South​

Age Verification in the US​


We continue to block access to Pornhub in more states that have passed age verification laws.




We're just complicit with it.

Before you know it, well have the military at bay to kick down doors for porn.
Cracking down on "crime"
For porn it's a good thing. It's something we all agree should be a controlled substance like cigarettes and alcohol yet kids have unlimited free access to it. Basically all men under the age of 35 are now porn addicts because of this historical oversight.
 
Anything resembling censorship is going to meet a lot of resistance over here. But yeah, our government is shit too

Is this where all this shit stems from about other countries going for censorship? This daydream fantasy?

I think it's a total fallacy, if I'm honest.

At what point have Americans pushed back on Trump for his authoritarian assaults on learning, on text books, and the rise of religious censorship?
 
Is this where all this shit stems from about other countries going for censorship? This daydream fantasy?

I think it's a total fallacy, if I'm honest.

At what point have Americans pushed back on Trump for his authoritarian assaults on learning, on text books, and the rise of religious censorship?
I'll be frank. The American people don't give a fraction of a fraction of a shit about any of that compared to what they would about internet censorship. I'm not saying it's right, but it is what it is.
 
Is this where all this shit stems from about other countries going for censorship? This daydream fantasy?

I think it's a total fallacy, if I'm honest.

At what point have Americans pushed back on Trump for his authoritarian assaults on learning, on text books, and the rise of religious censorship?
Something doesn't actually become legal censorship until the threat of being arrested and charged by the government occurs. One could posit that pulling books from libraries in public schools is censorship in a broader sense, but not necessarily the kind that is protected by the First Amendment.

The situation in the UK- where as I understand it, an average of 30 people a day are being arrested and sometimes jailed basically for saying mean things on social media- is an example of something the First Amendment is supposed to protect us from. Although places like the UK generally have free speech, they don't have a First Amendment, so the level of protection of free speech is unquestionably lower.

I worry about cracks in our free speech laws, and the authoritarianism that is going on right now, but I am less worried about free speech in the US than I am in other places in the world even with these current problems.
 
Something doesn't actually become legal censorship until the threat of being arrested and charged by the government occurs. One could posit that pulling books from libraries in public schools is censorship in a broader sense, but not necessarily the kind that is protected by the First Amendment.

The situation in the UK- where as I understand it, an average of 30 people a day are being arrested and sometimes jailed basically for saying mean things on social media- is an example of something the First Amendment is supposed to protect us from. Although places like the UK generally have free speech, they don't have a First Amendment, so the level of protection of free speech is unquestionably lower.

I worry about cracks in our free speech laws, and the authoritarianism that is going on right now, but I am less worried about free speech in the US than I am in other places in the world even with these current problems.

There's more theater in America, but not always.

Robert Peralta was arrested for a tweet.

People have been arrested in America for threats of violence, as they absolutely should be.

It would be absolute berzerk to suggest these pieces of shit shouldn't have been arrested, for example:


But generally in America people are arrested and the excuse is the form of protest rather than the words or sentiment... the UK is probably just more honest about the fact the authorities don't approve of certain narratives.
 
These are state laws, not federal. Not good, but still. It's a very far cry from needing to show ID to go online in general. And there are tons more porn sites than pornhub, so it's not like its a really effective measure.
Umm, okay.

But there is a similar impetus and forcing sites like pornhub to use ID to access it and presumably other sites.


You can say its different in execution, but the mindset is exactly the same and you dont think those US politicians wouldnt do anything in their power to ban it or make it a crime?
 
There's more theater in America, but not always.

Robert Peralta was arrested for a tweet.

People have been arrested in America for threats of violence, as they absolutely should be.

It would be absolute berzerk to suggest these pieces of shit shouldn't have been arrested, for example:


But generally in America people are arrested and the excuse is the form of protest rather than the words or sentiment... the UK is probably just more honest about the fact the authorities don't approve of certain narratives.
That's fundamentally different from arresting someone for any kind of opinion or POV (even if you call it "hate speech"). People have always been arrested for what you refer to here- making a serious threat is not covered by free speech, nor is anything that could cause immediate danger (e.g. the classic yelling "fire" in a crowded theater). That isn't comparable to what the UK is doing.
 
That's fundamentally different from arresting someone for any kind of opinion or POV (even if you call it "hate speech"). People have always been arrested for what you refer to here- making a serious threat is not covered by free speech, nor is anything that could cause immediate danger (e.g. the classic yelling "fire" in a crowded theater). That isn't comparable to what the UK is doing.

I think I'm probably going to agree with you, because... well, in all honesty, I do agree with your position, but I will still say many of the arrests that I'm aware of have incorporated some kind of threat - not necessarily "I am gonna do this", but driving people towards really revolting actions.
 
There is a huge propaganda effort, the news tells you nothing of what it's like to live in a county.

Wikipedia is used a lot sure, but now mainly by AI. It's a CIA/Mossad propaganda platform or at least heavily captured.

Amen and Bravo!

I would say we are entering into a special period where "information" and "news" is really diverging as to what it's like to live in a country.

The digital world is literally being designed by folks people trying to make the general population angry, immature, divided, and lonely -- pumping out maladjusted insufferable people; which doesn't show up in the economics stats like the stock market index. And the "underdeveloped" world has recently been making strides to increase basic material standards of living while still maintaining elements of tradition, and decency. I spend a lot of time abroad and have noticed this bizarre shift, where the classic european westerners are becoming insufferable, yet middle easterners, and people from the far east and south asia are sooooo much better to be around. But to be fair, being abroad for a lot of those people tends to be only for the upper crust of society there, not the common folk like in the traditional west.

But one thing I also learned from being abroad so much is how effective the Hollywood image of USA impacts people. Lot of folks abroad think all Westerners have money to burn and that the whole of the country is like Rodeo Drive, and everyone has the big house with white picket fence. I'm sure there's no shortage of "mail order bride" types from east europe and places like Philippines that move to America with a dude thinking life is gonna be all glamorous, but the dude works at a KFC and lives in a shithole in a medicore part of town. I mean, it's certainly better than being in the shitty part of Delhi or Manila or whatever, but it's definitely not how like a lot of people envision it.
 
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