UFC's greatest fighter?

zerofux said:
McGregor is greater than Mighty Mouse. Conor's loss to Nate is the equivalent of MM jumping up in weight and losing to Holloway or Poirier. MM would never do that, because he's not a true warrior like Conor. McGregor laid waste to a division that was more impressive than MM's and did it in much more devastating fashion.
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You're kidding, right?
 
The Natural Born Runner said:
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What is your point?
 
Lucifer Alpha said:
Do you think Tyson Fury is a better boxer than Mayweather?
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Absolutely, Tyson Fury destroys Mayweather in a boxing match, therefore he's a better boxer. He's not a more skilled boxer mind you, but his size and strength more than makes up for his skill deficiency. In the end both size and skill matter in boxing, doesn't get much simpler than that.
 
Breaking said:
Nope. I just can't believe that your argument could be so dumb.

It's one thing to say that weight classes are bullshit, so the bigger and better fighters belong and the smaller ones don't. That's a position that I would disagree with, but it's one that at least makes sense.

It's another thing altogether to say that weightclasses don't matter and therefore Werdum AND MCGREGOR belong.

That's full retard.
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Exemplar said:
Instances of recreational drug use should not be a 100% blocker. That's ridiculous. If the NFL was wise enough to allow Lawrence Taylor (one of the greatest linebackers of all time) into the NFL HOF... the UFC and fans should recognize athletes with cases of recreational drug use as well. The rest of your criteria seem relatively reasonable.

My choice is either Jones or Silva.
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If you so choose. You can replace it with GSP not eye gouging, kneecapping, throwing illegal elbows etc...
 
The Natural Born Runner said:
This is the greatest fighter ever, so of course entire resume and past fights matter.
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DJ actually has one of the better records if we're going by losses since he's never been finished or beaten by a can. The only one who is ahead of him in that regard is Jones. GSP, Silva, Aldo, Fedor all have embarrassing losses. I don't think that really matters much but it should be noted.
 
EGarrett said:
If you so choose. You can replace it with GSP not eye gouging, kneecapping, throwing illegal elbows etc...
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Well, since your so willingly injecting your personal opinion, I'd counter with my own. How about GSP's routine use of: play-it-safe strategies, habitual round-ending TDs, clock management, one fight per year schedules, dodging of fan-requested superfight with Silva, and mundane career finish rate. Hence my favoring of Silva or Jones.
 
LouisBolanos said:
Absolutely, Tyson Fury destroys Mayweather in a boxing match, therefore he's a better boxer. He's not a more skilled boxer mind you, but his size and strength more than makes up for his skill deficiency. In the end both size and skill matter in boxing, doesn't get much simpler than that.
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It's gotta be Jon Jones right? The streak he's on with the level of competition he's been against... Is it even close?
 
Exemplar said:
Well, since your so willingly injecting your personal opinion, I'd counter with my own. How about GSP's routine use of: play-it-safe strategies, habitual round-ending TDs, clock management, one fight per year schedules, dodging of fan-requested superfight with Silva, and mundane career finish rate. Hence my favoring of Silva or Jones.
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Of course I injected my opinion. That's the point of the thread.

GSP was boring at times, but none of the stuff you mentioned was against the rules. Eye gouging and 12-to-6 elbows are. I have Jones a solid 2nd or 3rd though. With Anderson solid 3rd or 2nd.
 
Lucifer Alpha said:
DJ actually has one of the better records if we're going by losses since he's never been finished or beaten by a can. The only one who is ahead of him in that regard is Jones. GSP, Silva, Aldo, Fedor all have embarrassing losses. I don't think that really matters much but it should be noted.
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What about "strength of schedule" or does that not matter?
 
EGarrett said:
Of course I injected my opinion. That's the point of the thread.

GSP was boring at times, but none of the stuff you mentioned was against the rules. Eye gouging and 12-to-6 elbows are. I have Jones a solid 2nd or 3rd though. With Anderson solid 3rd or 2nd.
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What I meant was that I prefer to view situations like this through an unbiased lense (as much as possible). You and I were clearly moving it to itemized opinions. Basically, your list and mine flip, you seem to favor a fighter/gentleman view, whereas I favor a who's trying to be the baddest man on the planet view.
 
Breaking said:
Werdum has a great MMA legacy, but his UFC resume pales in comparison to MM's.

Not to mention that McGregor's and Werdum's relationship to their titles is identical: won an interim title, unified it, failed to defend it.
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I don't think anyone can possibly suggest it's between Werdum or MM, that's an easy choice. I'm just saying Werdum's inclusion in this list isn't on the same level as McGregor being included although you have a point about their relationship to their titles. Only difference is that Werdum just got KO'ed stiff and Conor is still the Champion, "failed to defend it" doesn't apply in his case.
 
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