ufc shoud have a mandatory 2 or 3 fight rule

[grimballer]

where the challenger, after unsuccessful title fight, would have to fight 2 or 3 times before getting another ts.

this whole gus/jbj situation is getting ridiculous.

heres the guy who comes to a title fight n literally runs the entire fight, did some good things, but clearly losses 3 rounds to 2 (some would say 4-1).

instead of thanking jones for the opportunity, he acts as if he won n demands an instant rematch as if jones n ufc owned him another ts.

if ufc give in to this, it will open the door to more challengers coming to title fight not to beat the champ, but just look k n demand another ts.

dana should do the right thing, tell gus to helax n work his way to another ts.

 

[punky brewster]

2/10

 

[NinjaSquid]

you suck

 

[DrDangles]

Your an idiot.

1. Why would the UFC make such a rule? Helps them in no way
2. Fans want to see Gus-Jones II NOW. Just like people wanted Sonnen-Silva II a lot sooner then it happened.

 

[Lethal_Striker]

That would never ever ever ever work in the HW division when you have a hard enough time just making title fights in general.

 

[TheRassler]

champions wouldn't give a shit about putting on exciting fights anymore, which would be a massive failure for the fans.. all they would have to do is ride out boring decisions knowing once they win this decision, they won't have to face this guy again until 2-3 fights later.

horrible idea.

 

[countswagula]

Circumstances vary, so should the criteria

 

[grimballer]

champions wouldn't give a shit about putting on exciting fights anymore, which would be a massive failure for the fans.. all they would have to do is ride out boring decisions knowing once they win this decision, they won't have to face this guy again until 2-3 fights later.

horrible idea.

the champ already has the title n is DEFENDING IT. its up to the challenger to go n take it.

thats what jones did when he won the title, he took it from rua.

gus did the opposite. came in n tried to look competitive vs jones, he was point fighting. his td did serve no other purpose than get some points n get out, didnt try gnp after. his striking is the same. hes happy just to land one strike n get out.

 

[elzar]

sounds convoluted. the ufc is in the game of selling fights that people will buy while also appearing more or less to be putting up worthy challengers. the former is more important than the latter. it's not much more complicated than that.

 

[DCarf]

1. Why would the UFC make such a rule? Helps them in no way.

You couldn't be more wrong if they were smart they would realize it helps. When you have two guys on a path to fight that everyone wants to see then you now have two fighters that are must see TV. Once they fight each other then whoever loses is no longer must see. Everyone needs to see Gus rematch so they will tune in for any Gus fight regardless of who he's fighting. If he fights Jon again and loses he no longer is interesting and his career will go downhill.

 

[TheRassler]

the champ already has the title n is DEFENDING IT. its up to the challenger to go n take it.

thats what jones did when he won the title, he took it from rua.

gus did the opposite. came in n tried to look competitive vs jones, he was point fighting. his td did serve no other purpose than get some points n get out, didnt try gnp after. his striking is the same. hes happy just to land one strike n get out.

you are giving too much credit to the judges, they are known to fuck up decisions (forrest vs rampage, and shogun vs machida, etc).

you are basically giving guys like machida an incentive to play it safe once they have the title and come in with the safest game plan ever for each fight. And once they win the controversial decision, they will keep fighting safer and safer.

 

[grimballer]

Your an idiot.

1. Why would the UFC make such a rule? Helps them in no way
2. Fans want to see Gus-Jones II NOW. Just like people wanted Sonnen-Silva II a lot sooner then it happened.

1. to have less stagnant divisions.

2. yeah, but fans are just acting on impulse. the fight would be much bigger if jones defends his title one more time n gus beats another top contender. if they fight again n theres another "close" decision, are you gonna have another rematch?

you welcome

 

[grimballer]

you are giving too much credit to the judges, they are known to fuck up decisions (forrest vs rampage, and shogun vs machida, etc).

you are basically giving guys like machida an incentive to play it safe once they have the title and come in with the safest game plan ever for each fight. And once they win the controversial decision, they will keep fighting safer and safer.

even if most mma media scored the fight for jones,

the reality is judges are part of the game. just like a fighter can "fuck up" so can the judges, thats why fighters are told not to leave it in the hands of the judges.

now speaking of machida, even he had to go out there n beta the champ. he earned his title. so why is it too much to ask for other challengers to do the same?

youre a challenger? you know what you gotta do. BEAT THE CHAMP! not go out there n try to outpoint the champ. thats bs. n thats exactly what gus tried to do.

 

[lowsingle]

more like champs have to defend 2-3 times a year

where its like 5 fights in 24 months. so one year you can get by on 2 but then you need 3 the next

 

[jjresq]

champions wouldn't give a shit about putting on exciting fights anymore, which would be a massive failure for the fans.. all they would have to do is ride out boring decisions knowing once they win this decision, they won't have to face this guy again until 2-3 fights later.

horrible idea.

Tell that to Gsp

 

[TheRassler]

even if most mma media scored the fight for jones,

the reality is judges are part of the game. just like a fighter can "fuck up" so can the judges, thats why fighters are told not to leave it in the hands of the judges.

now speaking of machida, even he had to go out there n beta the champ. he earned his title. so why is it too much to ask for other challengers to do the same?

youre a challenger? you know what you gotta do. BEAT THE CHAMP! not go out there n try to outpoint the champ. thats bs. n thats exactly what gus tried to do.

you are not understanding the point fighting mentality of some champions, you cannot expect it to be a fight if one guy is doing everything to avoid the fight.. like I said, your idea will force champions to train on how to avoid the fight and make it the most boring title fight known to man. It would possibly kill PPV buys because nobody wants to see that shit.

I know a little something or two about fighters that abuse the Unified Rules and play the points game during fights, look at my name/sig/av/posts.

 

[TheRassler]

Tell that to Gsp

Lol, I didn't even have to mention his name and you guys already know who I'm talking about...well done.

 

[Master Shonuff]

This 1 fight win and rematch happens is annoyingly ridiculous

 

[grimballer]

you are not understanding the point fighting mentality of some champions, you cannot expect it to be a fight if one guy is doing everything to avoid the fight.. like I said, your idea will force champions to train on how to avoid the fight and make it the most boring title fight known to man. It would possibly kill PPV buys because nobody wants to see that shit.

I know a little something or two about fighters that abuse the Unified Rules and play the points game during fights, look at my name/sig/av/posts.

dont be naive.

if one fighter is doing everything to avoid the fight n the other is chasing after him entire time, it wont be hard for the judges to choose the right winner.

the ref could also warn the guy avoid the fight even take off some points.

ppl need to let go of this idea that champs will simply not fight, if challenger has to beat em.

machida/shogun is the best example.

in the 1st fight both were hesitant to engage. machida won that one.

in the 2nd shogun was much more aggressive n the result was a ko.

if shogun knew he would have to beat machida to get the title n if he doesnt he wont get another shot any time soon, he would press him from the start.

 

[TheRassler]

if one fighter is doing everything to avoid the fight n the other is chasing after him entire time, it wont be hard for the judges to choose the right winner.

that's where you're wrong, you cannot expect the judges to decide the correct winner when a fight happens like that. You are giving these incompetent judges way too much credit and that's where your idea fails at.

It has happened time and time again where we don't know what fight the judges were watching. Your idea will make champions fight safer and safer, to the point where it won't even look like a fight anymore, but more of a stalemate or a chase down.

the ref could also warn the guy avoid the fight even take off some points.

that's a good one, ref's are not gonna take away a point from the champion.

how many warnings has jones gotten for his eye pokes? not one point deduction.