UFC on ESPN 6 Reyes vs Weidman

[Sono07]

man i just wanted to say that was a really insightful comment. there is no way chris has improved cardio with more fat/muscle. and because of this im leaning towards reyes. The only thing im worried about this how good is reyes' TDD vs weidman's wrestling at 205?

I know he wrestled at a high school level at least. Not exactly the high level background like Weidman but it's good to know he had experience early.
If you haven't seen it I'd recommend his fight against OSP, he showed strong grappling defense in my opinion. He stopped all but one of OSP's 9 TDs.
I thought his clinch work looked strong too, cornering off the cage with good angles and reversing to take dominant position several times using his head position to help keep OSP pinned. He looks pretty solid all around to me aside from possible pacing/experience issues.

 

[RichBoyKermit]

@Oblivian are you breaking your $5 max bet rule for Bermudez?

 

[Sono07]

He dislocated his shoulder or was having some issue with his shoulder, hence not throwing the right hand.

If anyone thinks Holland won those fights or at least can't admit both could have gone either way I want what your smoking.

Was on Holland against GM3 and went outside to smoke a fatty when the score cards were being read thinking for sure Holland lost and then shocked and happy to see him being interviewed when I came back inside thinking wtf haha.

Then bet Chirico against him at almost +200 and clearly thinking when I heard all 3 judges had it 29-28 that Chirico got the win. I blame Chirico's dumb ass for not pressing in round 3 to make the win more clear when he must have seen Holland was hurting .

I'll admit I don't believe I've seen his GM3 fight. I'll definitely look that one up before I decide on his coming bout though. Neither man looked great in Holland v Di Chirico.
I forgot Hollands shoulder got knocked out defending a TD or something thought it was his hand.
Still I have take a small something from him inching out a decision with only his lead arm. Even if it was more Di Chiricos bad fight IQ it shows some guts and experience by Kevin and his corner for keeping him in it.

 

[Naught2Sixty]

Who's the new guy?

 

[Oblivian]

@Oblivian are you breaking your $5 max bet rule for Bermudez?

I was going to go $10, but I decided to save the $5 for another night with your mother.

 

[rev0lver]

Then bet Chirico against him at almost +200 and clearly thinking when I heard all 3 judges had it 29-28 that Chirico got the win. I blame Chirico's dumb ass for not pressing in round 3 to make the win more clear when he must have seen Holland was hurting .

Honestly Di Chirico lost that fight for himself by not pressing it in round 3 after a decently-close second round. Even if he didn't recognize the injury to take advantage, I hate when fighters start coasting when they haven't clearly dominated two rounds. Reminded me of Reyes vs Oez. But it's not like Holland looked good there either after a mediocre opening to that fight. I don't trust the guy.

 

[Jordan3399]

I was going to go $10, but I decided to save the $5 for another night with your mother.

 

[RichBoyKermit]

I was going to go $10, but I decided to save the $5 for another night with your mother.

You sure bro? I dont want you to go broke just cause you want my mom so bad

 

[Soccer Steve]

I'll admit I don't believe I've seen his GM3 fight. I'll definitely look that one up before I decide on his coming bout though.

It is absolutely must-see before you play this fight. It’s either gonna make you think he subs Allen (like I do), or you’re gonna wanna pass. Same with the Hiley and Hernandez fights on the other side.

I think Holland whoops him but fuck: Kevin Holland.

 

[ill800]

It is absolutely must-see before you play this fight. It’s either gonna make you think he subs Allen (like I do), or you’re gonna wanna pass. Same with the Hiley and Hernandez fights on the other side.

I think Holland whoops him but fuck: Kevin Holland.

Thought Allen was pretty solid from taping him for dwcs, and he performed well in that fight

I don’t think he’s ready for the unorthodox style Holland is going to bring him, but it’s very hard to bring myself to bet - odds on a guy like holland

 

[Jordan3399]

Allens style should match up well vs Holland he's just a bit green. Holland isn't great on the backfoot, has poor wrestling and is relatively weak at 185. Allens a strong middleweight with consistent forward pressure boxing, constant TD attempts and the conservative, position over submission, top game that he showed in recent fights is great stylistically for him to do well.

If Allen was more proven and had shown some consistency with that style I'd favour him a decent amount. As it is I think he should at least make it a close dec hitting TDs and keeping Holland uncomfortable standing. I expect at a minimum it's another very close decision based on the style match up.

 

[Soccer Steve]

I see Allen as a sloppy top controller that will get swept easily, flattened out, and choked, maybe punched out. But yes, surely Holland makes this harder than it needs to be.

Also see the majority of his past opponents as utter shit. Except for his losses, all of whom are now currently in the UFC.

 

[TrueAscension]

I think I can pretty confidentially say frota is better than maycee on the ground and is stronger than her.

Gillian dealt with her pretty easily.

And you say she’s been training with askren. What is this statement based off of? That Instagram picture? Or do you have more info?

for all we know that could’ve been for a day or a week.

in wmma especially, I’m going to lean towards the better wrestler with a better ground game

I favor Gillian, so the gift line for me was getting her at +170

Of course Frota is better on the ground. As I said, its a much different matchup.

I see why you'd favor Gillian and especially why you'd take her at those odds considering you favor her. I simply disagree with ya bud.

 

[ill800]

Of course Frota is better on the ground. As I said, its a much different matchup.

I see why you'd favor Gillian and especially why you'd take her at those odds considering you favor her. I simply disagree with ya bud.

How terrible would this forum be if we all agreed on everything?

 

[Gugabe]

Bermudez grappling is classic grappling that people who don't know shit about grappling think is good. He's at size, striking and positional grappling deficits. His only real win path is jumping a triangle, if Rosa fought more consistently I'd be going near maxbet

 

[ApplesVild]

Bermudez grappling is classic grappling that people who don't know shit about grappling think is good. He's at size, striking and positional grappling deficits. His only real win path is jumping a triangle, if Rosa fought more consistently I'd be going near maxbet

Doesn't the lay off and injury and the fact he's only back now because it's a home town fight bother you?

 

[Gugabe]

Doesn't the lay off and injury and the fact he's only back now because it's a home town fight bother you?

Yep. Thus why I'm only going in for a unit.

If he was a frequent fighter I'd be maxing

 

[RichBoyKermit]

If you don't bet Bochniak on this card you're a bum #facts

 

[Soccer Steve]

Doesn't the lay off and injury and the fact he's only back now because it's a home town fight bother you?

He had 450 days off leading up to the Burgos fight and, although he slowed down, still looked great right out of the gate as well as generally fine cardio-wise throughout.

 

[theTKDguy]

Bermudez grappling is classic grappling that people who don't know shit about grappling think is good. He's at size, striking and positional grappling deficits. His only real win path is jumping a triangle, if Rosa fought more consistently I'd be going near maxbet

I agree. The long layoff turns me off but i like rosa's heart.