Media UFC no longer offering comp tickets to fighter's families

As long as the fighters allow the UFC to treat them like shit, this will continue

When the fighters actually decide to rise up against the tyranny of UFC and expose them for the scumbags that they are, this sort of treatment will end
Pretty much what I've come to say. A lot like employment in general, many workers have stockholm syndrome and let their employer screw them as hard as humanly possible because thats the way things have gone in the past, it's the status quo. If the fighters don't eventually stand up for themselves and break the cycle of exploitation, the UFC will continue to push the envelope into how much revenue they can make by taking further pay and benefits from the fighters until either it reaches a breaking point, or the UFC has finally stacked the deck so high it'd be literally impossible to stop them. As of now, the latter is looking like the upcoming reality, and that's really sad.
Can't wait for the downfall of Dana via his greed. It cannot happen soon enough, UFC is going to one day be split right open by one of many unethical/illegal practices they partake in, and a large chunk of the roster will be redistributed amongst other promotions, and it'll be the best thing to happen to MMA instead of having this pseudo-monopoly. I'm making a prediction now, Dana White gets indicted on tax evasion or money laundering in the next decade, things like Power Slap are just too obvious vehicles to wash money with.
Yeah especially with the former ties to questionable individuals like mobsters the UFC is doing some weird ass shit with their revenue, very shady practices have been going on for a whiie and have increased, really id say since the Reebok deal it's been an increasingly concentrated effort to severely underpay fighters unless you're a great draw and you're STILL only getting a cut of all the revenue you've actually generated. Nobody can oppose the UFC monopoly as a promotion and they get to generally do whatever they want. Things need to change or I expect an sharp decline in quality of fights and fighters as top tier talent will refuse to be underpaid and go elsewhere and we will starting to get DWCS alumni as main events.


I'm not going to really talk shit, cus but it's not something to laugh or complain about, but its unfortunate to see so many people perfectly ok or even supporting fighters/workers being screwed over because it's legally allowed and the only thing they ever known. Its a serious problem. Wanting a fairer share from the already ridiculously wealthy owner/boss doesn't make you entitled, and you don't need to "grow up." It's not even truly about the money really. It's about refusing to let a person or institution screw you over just because they can.

It's called standing up for yourself regardless of the established status quo because if you continue to get walked all over by someone, nobody is going to respect you, hence all these posters being pro-corporation and shitting all over the entire reason the UFC is even in business.

If slavery still existed, some people would probably defend it just because society accepted it and is the norm even though it's not right at all, and that shit is very depressing to think about.
 
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You gotta love this place. 100+ hateful posts running with a completely false statement with not a lick of effort to verify, if it fits what you want to hate then it has to be true. There is literally nothing to see here. Nothing changed folks.
 
As long as the fighters allow the UFC to treat them like shit, this will continue

When the fighters actually decide to rise up against the tyranny of UFC and expose them for the scumbags that they are, this sort of treatment will end
And they most likely never will. Complete lack of any sort of class consciousness an solidarity among themselves, or even a belief that people should have any guaranteed rights when bargaining with their employer

I agree that there's an extent where the fighters largely have themselves to blame, nothing but extreme individualism among most of them(which does make sense for a fighter in away).

Honestly tired of various fighters going to social media (rightfully) outraged how the UFC shafts them while at the same time they are quite literally not even able to conceive or dream of banding together. In fact when pushed most of them would then proceed to churn around and suck Dana's dick and justify their own exploitation. Is what it is.
 
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This place gets more bizarre by the day.

Let me see if I have this right.. If somebody gives me a BD present every year for 10 years. I’m allowed to bitch if they stop doing it?

Or a Christmas BONUS every year from work. And they stop doing it. I’m allowed to bitch about that too?

That’s happened in real life to me. Or maybe say us 20 employees get a $50 gift card for Safeway. Yet the company is making a fortune. But can’t afford to spend more than $1000 on Christmas BONUSES. Nobody I know cries about stuff like that.

I’ve also worked for companies that would give me free tickets to NHL, and CFL games. NHL tickets are very expensive. How about the annual Christmas party. Or the annual golf tournament, and shit like that. Some companies did, and some didn’t. None of them were obligated to do any of that. And if they just stopped doing it I didn’t cry about it.

These perks, bonuses, etc were free. I appreciated all those things but didn’t just expect to get them for eternity, or ever in fact. Some did treat us much better than others. That’s the way the real world works. At least since I started working at 13 years old.

These places hired me to do a specific job. That’s it, that’s all. The wages were negotiated before actually being hired. If special PPE was required. Did the company pay for it, or the employee? Renewing safety tickets every year or two to work in Alberta’s Oilpatch. Does the company pay, or do I? A new drivers abstract every year. Who pays for that?

Are you people serious?

The sense of entitlement amongst people born since about 1990 is unbelievable. The disconnect I feel with a LOT of people 35 and under is insane. Apparently a lot of them feel the world owes them something. And they cry when they don’t get it.

No company is EVER required to do anything like this unless it is literally part of a contract. PERKS, and BONUSES are just that. A performance bonus in the real world is one thing. Or even in the contracts of athletes where if they get so many wins, yards, points, etc is one thing and is specifically written into contracts. Or if you sell so many cars, houses, etc.

But why do so many of you expect a free ride all the time? I doubt that POTN bonuses are actually written into standard UFC contracts. Yet people say the UFC is cheap for not raising them every year to match inflation, etc.

Again.. Are you people serious?

At least some of you people are smart enough to say WME, or UFC. The rest say Dana.. Like he has autonomy over EVERYTHING in the UFC. He doesn’t even negotiate contracts. So get a grip, alright. The obsession gets creepier and creepier.

Didn’t Emmet go on social media about a year ago complaining that his free UFC tickets were in the nosebleeds or some shit?

Yes, he did..

https://www.mmamania.com/platform/a...6-but-got-dumped-in-the-cheap-seats-left-dead

Give these younger generations an inch and they DEMAND A MILE.

It’s absolutely bizarre to me how so many of you display fake outrage at things that have nothing to do with you. Or that you literally care more about an athlete’s free tickets than how much you get shafted on your own wages, etc.

It’s time for some of you to grow up. This is insane.
It's circle jerk, more than half of these weirdos in this thread don't even care about the fighters in the first place. It's just their way of trying to jump on the bandwagon on hating someone in Dana they have no connection to. These are the same clowns who bitch about everything the UFC does and want them to fail so bad so these fighters & everyone they "care" about will be unemployed.

Your post nailed it.
 
Gotta make room for them influencers I guess.
Or people who actually buy tickets to support said fighters, you know supporting the same fighters you so care about but don't do anything than cry about online?
 
This is reaching reddit level of hatred of the UFC so no one will care but Dana said that the policy at the Apex has always been that only the main eventers get extra tickets.
 
You gotta love this place. 100+ hateful posts running with a completely false statement with not a lick of effort to verify, if it fits what you want to hate then it has to be true. There is literally nothing to see here. Nothing changed folks.
Bunch of absolute fucking weirdos.
 
Common courtesy?

Its a job, not charity. My boss doesn't pay for my family and I wouldn't expect him to
You are obviously not a fighter or employed by a promotion/production that features you as a star. I got free tickets to a show I worked on last summer and I didn't even star in it. Weird huh? Not.

Its also pretty low of the UFC to stop providing family tickets after years of doing so, and not inform the fighters.

I typically support Dana and the UFC, but a sleazy move is a sleazy move. On this issue of fighter pay/benefits/compensation, I feel the UFC is moving in the wrong direction and this is a perfect example.
 
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You are obviously not a fighter or employed by a promotion/production that features you as a star. I got free tickets to a show I worked on last summer and I didn't even star in it. Weird huh? Not.

Its also pretty low of the UFC to stop providing family tickets after years of doing so, and not inform the fighters.

I typically support Dana and the UFC, but a sleazy move is a sleazy move. On this issue of fighter pay/benefits/compensation, I feel the UFC is moving in the wrong direction and this is a perfect example.

How? Is there even enough seating at the Apex to give every fighter four tickets?
 
How? Is there even enough seating at the Apex to give every fighter four tickets?
I don't know the answer to the seating question at the Apex, or how many tickets each fighter used to get, but apparently there used to be plenty of seating for families, and the UFC is trying to save a few bucks.

"How"?, you ask, and I am assuming you mean how is this an example of the UFC moving in the wrong direction? To answer that I would point out the the UFC, already at the lowest percentage athlete payout for any major sports league, has now dropped from 18% to 13% payout (https://bloodyelbow.com/2023/05/24/ufc-finances-lowest-revenue-share/) and they are taking away another benefit from fighters without even giving them the professional courtesy of advising them this will happen beforehand.

MLB, NFL, and MLS all provide comp tickets for families. They also pay much, much better. If the UFC would continue to grow, attract talent and become more popular, I am of the opinion that increasing fighter pay and benefits is the strategy to follow. We're not talking about a regional show here (they typically give some comp tickets to family also) but the world leader in MMA. Unfortunately, this world leader seems to take pride in crushing their own talent when it comes to pay and benefits, and like I said in my earlier post, this is a perfect example of that behavior.
 
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I don't know the answer to the seating question at the Apex, or how many tickets each fighter used to get, but apparently there used to be plenty of seating for families, and the UFC is trying to save a few bucks. "How"?, you ask, and I am assuming you mean how is this an example of the UFC moving in the wrong direction? TO answer that I would point out the the UFC already at the lowest percentage payout payout for any major sports league, has now dropped from 18% to 13% (https://bloodyelbow.com/2023/05/24/ufc-finances-lowest-revenue-share/).

I mean it makes perfect sense. Of course you can give every fighter four tickets when you’re at a 20,000 seat venue and then you’ll even have fighters like Josh Emmett bitching that the seats aren’t good enough. You can’t really give out four free tickets to every single fighter at a significantly smaller venue.
 
This place gets more bizarre by the day.

Let me see if I have this right.. If somebody gives me a BD present every year for 10 years. I’m allowed to bitch if they stop doing it?

Or a Christmas BONUS every year from work. And they stop doing it. I’m allowed to bitch about that too?

That’s happened in real life to me. Or maybe say us 20 employees get a $50 gift card for Safeway. Yet the company is making a fortune. But can’t afford to spend more than $1000 on Christmas BONUSES. Nobody I know cries about stuff like that.

I’ve also worked for companies that would give me free tickets to NHL, and CFL games. NHL tickets are very expensive. How about the annual Christmas party. Or the annual golf tournament, and shit like that. Some companies did, and some didn’t. None of them were obligated to do any of that. And if they just stopped doing it I didn’t cry about it.

These perks, bonuses, etc were free. I appreciated all those things but didn’t just expect to get them for eternity, or ever in fact. Some did treat us much better than others. That’s the way the real world works. At least since I started working at 13 years old.

These places hired me to do a specific job. That’s it, that’s all. The wages were negotiated before actually being hired. If special PPE was required. Did the company pay for it, or the employee? Renewing safety tickets every year or two to work in Alberta’s Oilpatch. Does the company pay, or do I? A new drivers abstract every year. Who pays for that?

Are you people serious?

The sense of entitlement amongst people born since about 1990 is unbelievable. The disconnect I feel with a LOT of people 35 and under is insane. Apparently a lot of them feel the world owes them something. And they cry when they don’t get it.

No company is EVER required to do anything like this unless it is literally part of a contract. PERKS, and BONUSES are just that. A performance bonus in the real world is one thing. Or even in the contracts of athletes where if they get so many wins, yards, points, etc is one thing and is specifically written into contracts. Or if you sell so many cars, houses, etc.

But why do so many of you expect a free ride all the time? I doubt that POTN bonuses are actually written into standard UFC contracts. Yet people say the UFC is cheap for not raising them every year to match inflation, etc.

Again.. Are you people serious?

At least some of you people are smart enough to say WME, or UFC. The rest say Dana.. Like he has autonomy over EVERYTHING in the UFC. He doesn’t even negotiate contracts. So get a grip, alright. The obsession gets creepier and creepier.

Didn’t Emmet go on social media about a year ago complaining that his free UFC tickets were in the nosebleeds or some shit?

Yes, he did..

https://www.mmamania.com/platform/a...6-but-got-dumped-in-the-cheap-seats-left-dead

Give these younger generations an inch and they DEMAND A MILE.

It’s absolutely bizarre to me how so many of you display fake outrage at things that have nothing to do with you. Or that you literally care more about an athlete’s free tickets than how much you get shafted on your own wages, etc.

It’s time for some of you to grow up. This is insane.

I worked at a neighborhood porn store when I was younger, and he gave everyone free rentals for life, and that guy wasn't rich ffs.

This is a multi billion dollar company that can't take care of the families of the fighters with tickets?, as if it's going to break their bank.
Im not sure if you realize this but without these fighters there is NO company.
Who the fuck is getting in that cage without the fighters sir?....Dana and Ari?

You were in a band, im sure when you played a venue you received a +2 or +5 on the list at the door.
That's just common courtesy man.

I guess common courtesy isn't so common anymore.

Making the fighters pay for their family's tickets is just another way to fucking weasel more money from them, but hey no big deal right?
This is prize fighting, yet the prize is getting less and less for our entertainment.

And your birthday present analogy doesn't really hold water btw, because you don't get a fuckin beating in front of your family for that present.

I like you, but sometimes you go off and spray the whole place without any concern for the innocent people around you sir.
 
It matters because that is what Tim didn't understand about why he didn't get tickets as usual. The standard fighter ticket policy doesn't apply to the Apex because there is only seating for less than 100 people so 4 tickets to each fighter on the card and guest fighters (top 5 or with an approved request) would account for all of the seating.
You gotta love this place. 100+ hateful posts running with a completely false statement with not a lick of effort to verify, if it fits what you want to hate then it has to be true. There is literally nothing to see here. Nothing changed folks.

It seems he's fought at Apex twice since covid (2021, 2020).

So if we believe him, he must have gotten tickets to those events. But not this one.

So I would suggest something changed. Maybe they've just limited seating in the last few years.
 
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Or people who actually buy tickets to support said fighters, you know supporting the same fighters you so care about but don't do anything than cry about online?

I've bought every PPV I have ever watched and that's more than 90% of this site does.
 
If we're to take Elliot at his word he was surprised to not get tickets. To the point family had already wasted their time/money flying to Vegas. Yeah we don't know all the details. Why Tim was surprised and what not

I don't know why UFC would change this policy. This is a fight discussion forum so it's acceptable to show sympathy for the fighters

YoU dAmN eNtItLeD kIdS cOmPlAiN tOo MuCh
 
The UFC is the only sport I can think of where more people are fans of the owners than they are the athleats.

Has to be some bots or shills to some degree.
Also, don't bring your kids to a violent fight that you are in. See Mark Coleman vs Fedor for the reality of that. Not saying Tim was planning on it but I cringe anytime I see the kids in the crowd.
 
I've bought every PPV I have ever watched and that's more than 90% of this site does.
I've done my fair share of supporting fighters via PPVs, buying apparel, events, etc. But according to some people it doesn't matter, it's far better to constantly bitch about it online, and they're doing everything they can to not support these said fighters when it comes to actually purchasing products and put a little bit of money in fighters pockets.

Can't take anyone serious when they're in this thread saying they care & then in the next thread they gloat about illegally streaming events and shit all over [insert fighter name].
 
I've done my fair share of supporting fighters via PPVs, buying apparel, events, etc. But according to some people it doesn't matter, it's far better to constantly bitch about it online, and they're doing everything they can to not support these said fighters when it comes to actually purchasing products and put a little bit of money in fighters pockets.

Can't take anyone serious when they're in this thread saying they care & then in the next thread they gloat about illegally streaming events and shit all over [insert fighter name].

Oh I definitely agree that the bitching is at dumb shit levels sir.
I sometimes wonder why some of these guys even watch this shit anymore, I mean if I only had complaints about something I liked I certainly wouldn't watch it lol.
 
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