UFC made historic profits of $387 million in 2022

[Kb7]

How else do you describe an industry with such an astronomically high HHI score?

You're acting like the UFC is operating on tight margins. They aren't. How many major companies have similar profit margins?

Educate us, you seem to know all the answers. In fact screw it, start your own MMA organization, show Dana how it's really done.

 

[avenue94]

Educate us, you seem to know all the answers. In fact screw it, start your own MMA organization, show Dana how it's really done.

If you can't tell me how mma shakes out in the HHI, how can you tell me whether there is concentration or competition? It just sounds like you need remedial econ if you're going to so loudly insist that the UFC has serious competitors.

 

[Kb7]

If you can't tell me how mma shakes out in the HHI, how can you tell me whether there is concentration or competition? It just sounds like you need remedial econ if you're going to so loudly insist that the UFC has serious competitors.

Again, you seem to know everything. The UFC has no competitors, UFC doesn't pay or treat fighters good, what else? Again like I told you, all you're doing is bitching about it online, if you're are not going to do anything then that is all you're doing. I'm going to enjoy watching MMA for as long as it's around, I don't care about what the fighters make. They chose this life. You & the rest of the haters can jerk each other off, because that is the only reason your in this thread, if you really cared you would be doing doin something else. Deep down inside, you don't. Just like everybody in this thread.

 

[avenue94]

The UFC has no competitors

Based on revenue share and concentration (HHI like I mentioned), they do not. They have more market power than nearly every monopoly the US government has broken up to date.

UFC doesn't pay or treat fighters good

Anderson Silva doesn't seem to think the UFC treats fighters well, and Dana and Joe Silva provided no shortage of evidence of this. As far as pay, they grossly underpay their draws and overpay entry level fighters to hamstring competitors. Overall, they heavily distort the market in mma.

I'm going to enjoy watching MMA for as long as it's around, I don't care about what the fighters make.

It's almost as if we want the sport tot improve, we need to pay fighters more. Just like if I want a product ot improve, I expect it to cost more and require more investment.

You & the rest of the haters can jerk each other off, because that is the only reason your in this thread, if you really cared you would be doing doin something else.

I vote for representatives and and elected officials sympathetic to workers like the fighters. I've also bought merch. Either does more to improve the lot of a fighter than buying PPVs if you do the math. No one is lording over you that you're a shitty person for not caring about fighters. We're just pointing out your logic is bad and shows crappy economics.

 

[Kb7]

Based on revenue share and concentration (HHI like I mentioned), they do not. They have more market power than nearly every monopoly the US government has broken up to date.

Anderson Silva doesn't seem to think the UFC treats fighters well, and Dana and Joe Silva provided no shortage of evidence of this. As far as pay, they grossly underpay their draws and overpay entry level fighters to hamstring competitors. Overall, they heavily distort the market in mma.

It's almost as if we want the sport tot improve, we need to pay fighters more. Just like if I want a product ot improve, I expect it to cost more and require more investment.

I vote for representatives and and elected officials sympathetic to workers like the fighters. I've also bought merch. Either does more to improve the lot of a fighter than buying PPVs if you do the math. No one is lording over you that you're a shitty person for not caring about fighters. We're just pointing out your logic is bad and shows crappy economics.

Offcourse we all want fighters to get paid more, the UFC is slowly making that possible. I emphasize "slowly.", but these threads are tiresome and overdone. We see these threads every single event and it's always the same, a bunch of people who dislike the UFC who exchange likes and jerk each other believing in their crusade. I've bought PPV's, I've gone to international fight week, gone to events, purchase apparel of said fighters, I've done my fair of supporting fighters I actually like. So don't couple me with clowns who seemingly stream every event whilst shitting on that very same card and fighters.

Honestly everytime I see threads like this, it's just a bunch of people who want the UFC to fail, what happens then when it does? 1000s of unemployed fighters who will get picked up and resort back to getting 5k/5k. And then it's ends up being a repeat of the same people hating on the org crying about the same shit.

This is tiresome and overdone, get back to me when you actually do something about it other than cry about it online or I'll probably be in the next "fighter pay" thread after the next UFC since that is the only threads I see you in.

Don't tell me I don't care about fighters, I do, i just don't care how much they get paid because they signed the contract to fight in the first place. I cared when I was younger, but now that I'm older with a career & a family. I'm going to tend to my own garden instead of worrying about something I have no control of.

Don't bother replying, I've said my peace in this topic & probably showed a bit of a sociopathic behavior.

I believe fighters do need to get paid more for what it's worth.

 

[avenue94]

Offcourse we all want fighters to get paid more, the UFC is slowly making that possible.

No they aren't. They're doing everything in their power to drive pay down and reduce the power fighters have. They've already tightened contracts even more, for example, by making it so fighters can't participate in class action lawsuits. Or for the obvious ones, they pay less for fight bonuses than they used to, both nominally and in real terms.

I've bought PPV's, I've gone to international fight week, gone to events, purchase apparel of said fighters, I've done my fair of supporting fighters I actually like. So don't couple me with clowns who seemingly stream every event whilst shitting on that very same card and fighters.

Congrats, each PPV buy contributes about a dollar or two to one or two fighters, with apparel being a couple bucks per fight kit. If you don't realize how fucked of a system that is, then you're being naïve. You don't have to feel bad for buying those things, but to pretend they are effective ways of supporting fighters is ludicrous. Buying a shirt direct from Max Holloway puts more money in his pocket than buying his last 5 years of PPVs.

Honestly everytime I see threads like this, it's just a bunch of people who want the UFC to fail, what happens then when it does? 1000s of unemployed fighters who will get picked up and resort back to getting 5k/5k. And then it's ends up being a repeat of the same people hating on the org crying about the same shit.

Creative destruction, if you're into Schumpeter. Other firms would step in and pick up fighters and fill in the void, and the market and sport moves on. No industry is bigger than its leading firm.

This is tiresome and overdone, get back to me when you actually do something about it other than cry about it online or I'll probably be in the next "fighter pay" thread after the next UFC since that is the only threads I see you in.

You'll see me in other forum sections bro. No need to be a stranger.

Don't bother replying, I've said my peace in this topic & probably showed a bit of a sociopathic behavior.

May you go in piece since you've now said you're peace.

I believe fighters do need to get paid more for what it's worth.

I believe you. I just don't think you realize basic economics: Competition is the largest driver of wages in any industry. Period, full stop. If you want fighters to be paid more, you need more competition for their services.

 

[Hdfi]

The details of his contract give him unprecedented freedom from a champion’s clause, allows him to box and likely without having to co-promote with PFL, and perhaps most notably, it would ensure that his future PFL opponents are paid fairly ($2M/fight).

Ngannou will get less money than what he would earn if he stayed in the UFC.