UFC Has Lost All Credibility With RR/WMMA

[Le 7th Samurai]

Ok, LOL. Davis got ko'ed by forehead shots from a 135 pound female. Ok. If you're getting ko'ed by forehead punches by a 135 pound person in a schoolyard headlock. You probably shouldn't fight, seeing that your chin is nonexistent.

This,

 

[emax]

yeah ronda and bones and silva never fought top competition...


give me a break

Again, Ronda's level of competition is clearly a joke relative to Jone's and Anderson's. And even Jones and Anderson did not make all their title defenses look like an older brother easily wailing on his hapless little brother as Rousey just did. Look at both of Anderson's fights vs Sonnen or Jone's fightsd vs Rashad, Machida, Glover and Gus. All of them were WAY more competitive than all of Rousey's pro fights. That is not even factoring in how laughable it is to place Rousey in the same universe as Anderson when it comes to how good they are as MMA fighters.

 

[Phisher]

C'mon man RR wanted no piece of Cyborg. I don't like cyborg either, but RR did duck her .

How the fuck did she duck Cyborg? Cyborg was suspended when the fight was viable in Strikeforce, and she asked for her release from Zuffa after the Strikeforce merger.

This criticism of Rousey for not fighting her makes no fucking sense at all.

 

[Arkain2K]

If all her fights end up like this for the next two to three years, they won't. WMMA fighters who lose to Rousey like this or would lose like that if they fought her are simply not gonna be interesting to the die hard fans or the casuals. If all of Rousey's fights end up like this by the time she retires, WMMA is history once that happens.

Please, noob. This time next year, the SW gonna take the scene by storm, and they WILL become one of the UFC's most exciting division.

Then again, you know absolutely nothing about the SW women, do you.

 

[Rittsy]

Again, Ronda's level of competition is clearly a joke relative to Jone's and Anderson's. And even Jones and Anderson did not make all their title defenses look like an older brother easily wailing on his hapless little brother as Rousey just did. Look at both of Anderson's fights vs Sonnen or Jone's fightsd vs Rashad, Machida, Glover and Gus. All of them were WAY more competitive than all of Rousey's pro fights. That is not even factoring in how laughable it is to place Rousey in the same universe as Anderson when it comes to how good they are as MMA fighters.

Put Aldo against Valasquez. Watch Aldo get destroyed. This is why we have weight classes, and why we separate men and women in most sports. You compete against the people with the same advantages/disadvantages you have.

Rousey is the best in her division. She's got the same advantages and disadvantages as her opponents. This is like getting mad that Michael Phelps doesn't race dolphins in the Olympics.

 

[emax]

A sea of garbage including an Olympic silver medalist. How many men in the UFC have an Olympic silver medal?

Ya know sherdog, sometimes its too easy to make you mother fuckers look stupid.

There are many male Olympic silver medalists who would not have stood a chance in hell in the UFC simply because for men, the level of competition in the UFC is actually legit. Also, McMann won a silver medal in wrestling when the sport was still very much in its infancy so it is not even in the same category as, for example, being an NCAA All American when fighting against men. If women's wrestling ever approaches anywhere near the level of men's wrestling, you will know it because then you actually will see the female Jon Jones, Weidmans, Cormiers, Sonnens, Dillashaws and Hendricks come along and they will dismantle Rousey as easily as she has dismantled her challengers. Of course, the operative clause is IF women's wrestling ever becomes anywhere near as legit as men's wrestling.

 

[emax]

Please, noob. This time next year, the SW gonna take the scene by storm, and they WILL become one of the UFC's most exciting division.

Then again, you know absolutely nothing about the SW women, do you.

If they are all going to be fighters who would lose this easily if they were in the same weight class as Rousey and actually fought her, than no, I will not be interested and neither will the vast majority of causal or die hard fans. Think I'm wrong? Look at the lack of interest now for pretty much any WMMA fight that does not involve Rousey. When we have WMMA fighters who get destroyed by Rousey in this kind of pathetic fashion or would get destroyed like this, the consensus is that they are watching what are at best second rate fighters. And there won't be an interest in seeing them in the UFC - that would be like watching low rent local promotions and pretending the fighters there are top 5 UFC caliber.

 

[Genghis84]

why are people calling her opponents cans?

alexis davis is a great fighter with solid muy thai and a bjj black belt

kaufman was legit and so was meisha tate aswell as mcmann

zingano is also legit

ronda is just better

Don't waste your time. I bet the same people creamed themselves when Cyborg was beating on Muxlow and Finney. Women that would lose to every single opponent Ronda has fought.

 

[TheFirstEMP]

Oh shit. UFC has lost all credibility with Hardkore. It's all over!

 

[eon001]

She's too fucking dominant. It's worse than GSP's reign becasue no one is even coming close right now. Can't get excited about any of her future match ups. Only fight that would remotely peak my interest would be Cyborg.

 

[emax]

So, whenever women's sport's on are you that guy who just shouts 'Bullshit! Boo. Not a real sport!'? Would you tell your daughter not to bother because there's going to be a boy who can do it better?

She's ranked against her competition. That's how this works; the rest is just marketing.

Not at all, I am all for women's sports. It is just that I can understand that there is going to be a need for realism in evaluating women's sports and evaluating, for example, why the WBNA has dozens of fans as opposed to dozens of millions for the NBA and why women's soccer only gets any kind of interest once every four years. I would embrace my daughters doing any sport to the best of their abilities; I would just hope that they don't get the misconception that their sport will necessarily be seen by most as being as legit as men in the same sport. Reality is, it won't.

 

[Dragonseeker]

There are many male Olympic silver medalists who would not have stood a chance in hell in the UFC simply because for men, the level of competition in the UFC is actually legit. Also, McMann won a silver medal in wrestling when the sport was still very much in its infancy so it is not even in the same category as, for example, being an NCAA All American when fighting against men. If women's wrestling ever approaches anywhere near the level of men's wrestling, you will know it because then you actually will see the female Jon Jones, Weidmans, Cormiers, Sonnens, Dillashaws and Hendricks come along and they will dismantle Rousey as easily as she has dismantled her challengers. Of course, the operative clause is IF women's wrestling ever becomes anywhere near as legit as men's wrestling.

That dumb. There are many female Judoka who will never stand a chance in WMMA either. You act like any Judoka from the Olympics and go into WMMA and steam rolled competition like Ronda. McMann has legit wrestling and stopped Ronda's takedowns easily. Ronda IS the Cormier of female MMA. That is the part that you don't understand. Sonnen? What? Ronda is already better at grappling than Sonnen. And Sonnen is even more one-dimensional than Ronda.

 

[Genghis84]

There are many male Olympic silver medalists who would not have stood a chance in !@#$%^&* in the UFC simply because for men, the level of competition in the UFC is actually legit. Also, McMann won a silver medal in wrestling when the sport was still very much in its infancy so it is not even in the same category as, for example, being an NCAA All American when fighting against men. If women's wrestling ever approaches anywhere near the level of men's wrestling, you will know it because then you actually will see the female Jon Jones, Weidmans, Cormiers, Sonnens, Dillashaws and Hendricks come along and they will dismantle Rousey as easily as she has dismantled her challengers. Of course, the operative clause is IF women's wrestling ever becomes anywhere near as legit as men's wrestling.

It's so legit that a pro wrestler became the HW champion with a 2-1 record.

 

[abracadordosaco**]

Wolf tickets.

Lol did you post this in every Rhonda thread?

 

[Dragonseeker]

Brock Lesnar dominated with less skills than Ronda and people were all over his nuts.

Ronda fights in a division with more credential fighters than the heavyweight division.

 

[DontBeScared209]

You people sound so fucking ridiculous

Grow up. Shes fighting the best competition there is (Besides Holm and Cyborg) but shes just on another level

Yall had no problem when Anderson smashed high level opponents but when an outspoken woman does it yall get butthurt

Grow up

When people want to bitch they will find a reason to bitch

 

[MMA junkie]

People who doubt Ronda's ability, do not know MMA.

 

[Callisto]

Well, let's be honest. Rousey is basically the only thing that people are remotely interested in when it comes to this division. It's makes you wonder if they'll even keep women around if and when she decides to move on.

Haters trying so desperately to downplay the success of WMMA.

If it was only about Roussey, the UFC woudn't be adding another WMMA division. A division, obviously, that Roussey won't be competing in.

 

[emax]

That dumb. There are many female Judoka who will never stand a chance in WMMA either. You act like any Judoka from the Olympics and go into WMMA and steam rolled competition like Ronda. McMann has legit wrestling and stopped Ronda's takedowns easily. Ronda IS the Cormier of female MMA. That is the part that you don't understand. Sonnen? What? Ronda is already better at grappling than Sonnen. And Sonnen is even more one-dimensional than Ronda.

Actually, I think many female Judoka at the Olympic caliber would have the same success Rousey has. For the first 8 fights Rousey's MMA game was 90 - 95 % simply using her Judo skills - many women who medaled in Judo at the Olympics could have easily done the same. And McMann's wrestling was legit but her ability to use it in MMA was not that great; her struggle to narrowly get by Baszler was proof of that.

Rousey the female Cormier? Again, one has to ask, I really hope that was a joke. Placing Rousey at the same level as Cormier in terms of MMA ability and ability to apply striking and grappling to MMA is hilariously stupid. Cormier's striking is at Manny Pacquaios' level next to Rousey and as far as grappling goes, Cormier took 4th at the Olympics and his competition was many orders of magnitude steeper than what Rousey faced at the Olympics. And Rousey being a better grappler than Sonnen? WHAT? When you consider how steep Sonnen's competition was in wrestling next to Rousey's in Judo, how is it not obvious that Sonnen's credentials are infintely better than Rousey's Judo credentials. And Sonnen for most of his career was better at MMA grappling, MMA ground fighting and of course striking and clinch fighting than Rousey ever was.

 

[Deleted member 110072]

That dumb. There are many female Judoka who will never stand a chance in WMMA either. You act like any Judoka from the Olympics and go into WMMA and steam rolled competition like Ronda. McMann has legit wrestling and stopped Ronda's takedowns easily. Ronda IS the Cormier of female MMA. That is the part that you don't understand. Sonnen? What? Ronda is already better at grappling than Sonnen. And Sonnen is even more one-dimensional than Ronda.

Stopped them for a minute and in had to leave herself wide open to knees to the body to do so.

Judo is IMHO the biggest potential talent pool for female MMA fighters by some way, your dealing with a sport there with a talent base not THAT far off of the mens. That doesn't mean that anyone with a judo background with have Rouseys success as we've seen with men that different Judoka adapt more or less successfully but I think if many switched they would likely dominate.

The problem the UFC has is that outside of US fighters they seem to have a real problem attracting Judoka, probably because most of the talent is in Europe and Asia with good state funding.