UFC Has Lost All Credibility With RR/WMMA

[The_Renaissance]

For your information numbnuts, Holm is 7-0 in mma. 6 of her wins are knockouts. She had only 1 decision. Stop trying to hate.

But she has beaten extremely low-level competition. That isn't in doubt.

The UFC invested in Rousey, not WMMA. These don't necessarily have to be competitve fights, coz Zuffa would prefer it if they were Ronda Rousey exhibitions anyway.

 

[Deleted member 428241]

Wolf tickets.

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[CSA08]

But she has beaten extremely low-level competition. That isn't in doubt.

The UFC invested in Rousey, not WMMA. These don't necessarily have to be competitve fights, coz Zuffa would prefer it if they were Ronda Rousey exhibitions anyway.

She's not going to get world class opposition at that level. She's worked for national and regional promotions so far. It's like saying Royce Gracie, Dan Severn, Don Frye or Mark Coleman don't deserve legend status because they started their career off against competition that wasn't top tier.

When you first start off in any combat sport, no matter what it is, you're going to be paired up with two types of people: those who are just starting out like you or those who are on their way back down the ladder and just don't want to give it up.

Some call it "padding their records", but others who are more reasonable call it "getting experience."

 

[Scamrock]

She's not going to get world class opposition at that level. She's worked for national and regional promotions so far. It's like saying Royce Gracie, Dan Severn, Don Frye or Mark Coleman don't deserve legend status because they started their career off against competition that wasn't top tier.

When you first start off in any combat sport, no matter what it is, you're going to be paired up with two types of people: those who are just starting out like you or those who are on their way back down the ladder and just don't want to give it up.

Some call it "padding their records", but others who are more reasonable call it "getting experience."

Getting experience is fine. But can't we all agree that Holm should get some wins in over higher ranked opponents before we start saying she should be fighting Rousey?

 

[Niten Ichi Ryu]

You people sound so fucking ridiculous

Grow up. Shes fighting the best competition there is (Besides Holm and Cyborg) but shes just on another level

Yall had no problem when Anderson smashed high level opponents but when an outspoken woman does it yall get butthurt

Grow up

Cyborg is the only one on the same level as her, is 10 lbs away, and Dana isnt going out of his way to make it happen. But oh, he's so impressed by Gina. Look at Ginas record before she fought Cyborg. Hardly great comp as well. Then you have Holm who could possibly threaten her in the future but shes not signed either.

The only person who had a shot was Mcmann.

 

[callofdutyNBA]

Ronda ! Ronda ! Ronda !

 

[Bacon Bits]

Holms decisions a 40 year old waitress from Denny, she's legit.

Cyborg knocks out Akano who she outweighed by 20-30 pounds, she's legit.

Ronda completely outclassing the top fighters in her division, she's overrated.

Only on fucking Sherdog lol.

 

[alpharowe3]

You people sound so fucking ridiculous

Grow up. Shes fighting the best competition there is (Besides Holm and Cyborg) but shes just on another level

Yall had no problem when Anderson smashed high level opponents but when an outspoken woman does it yall get butthurt

Grow up

Agreed.

 

[Niten Ichi Ryu]

Holms decisions a 40 year old waitress from Denny, she's legit.

Ronda completely outclassing the top fighters in her division, she's overrated.

Only on fucking Sherdog lol.

Ronda almost got choked out by a blue belt who never grew up when any martial arts training or pedigree. Mcmann was her most legit fight.

 

[FRANKIE 保憲]

a blue belt who never grew up when any martial arts training or pedigree.

Sounds like Kawajiri.

 

[SocraticMethod]

Ronda almost got choked out by a blue belt who never grew up when any martial arts training or pedigree.

Sounds like Kawajiri.

Reminded me of Machida and Rampage both getting choked out by a white belt.

 

[Hardkore]

She's not going to get world class opposition at that level. She's worked for national and regional promotions so far. It's like saying Royce Gracie, Dan Severn, Don Frye or Mark Coleman don't deserve legend status because they started their career off against competition that wasn't top tier.

When you first start off in any combat sport, no matter what it is, you're going to be paired up with two types of people: those who are just starting out like you or those who are on their way back down the ladder and just don't want to give it up.

Some call it "padding their records", but others who are more reasonable call it "getting experience."

Lol that's what Apostle and the rest of the white knight brigade fails to understand, they make it sound like RR fought top level competition when she first started.

 

[Hardkore]

Getting experience is fine. But can't we all agree that Holm should get some wins in over higher ranked opponents before we start saying she should be fighting Rousey?

Like RR did in strikeforce?

 

[CSA08]

Here's what people in all camps need to remember: Rousey is the best female fighter the UFC has to offer at this point. Cyborg is the closest competition she has at the national/worldwide level. Holm is the top prospect on the regional/national scene.

That's why you keep hearing people want to see Holm and Cyborg called up because they are the most well known figures outside of the UFC that are still fighting on a regular basis.

Meanwhile, for people deriding Rousey as being overrated, she is fighting the best she can possibly fight at this point. If you win this many fights consecutively at this level without getting beaten, you are a deserving champion. She's not fighting girls just starting out. She's fighting women who have won MMA world titles (Tate) or Olympic champions (McMann.)

I dislike her attitude, but I cannot deny that she is a legitimate champion.

 

[BROKENSPROKET]

Ok, LOL. Davis got ko'ed by forehead shots from a 135 pound female. Ok. If you're getting ko'ed by forehead punches by a 135 pound person in a schoolyard headlock. You probably shouldn't fight, seeing that your chin is nonexistent.

I swear....

It was the overhand right before she got kneed and tossed that knocked her out. Do you have a problem paying attention?

 

[Bazooka1**]

WMMA is a joke a fad.

Alotta kids here but anyone remember Christy Martin?

She was pretty big in boxing in the 90's but died out pretty fast yet she was actually skilled. Now look at female boxing its nothing.

Ufc is pushing this Wmma hard but it will die out.

 

[CSA08]

WMMA is a joke a fad.

Alotta kids here but anyone remember Christy Martin?

She was pretty big in boxing in the 90's but died out pretty fast yet she was actually skilled. Now look at female boxing its nothing.

Ufc is pushing this Wmma hard but it will die out.

I am 32 years old and I have been watching MMA since 1995. I have been watching boxing since the late 90s. So I know very well who Christy Martin is. I also know who Mia St. John is.

They helped usher in the era of women in boxing and it's proven to be more than just a fad as there are world champions in multiple divisions nearly 20 years after those women were making headlines. Meanwhile, the Olympics have just put a women's division into their boxing ranks as well.

This is no fad. Women want to fight and a lot of people want to see them fight. If the UFC stops calling up female fighters in the future, it will just open the door for other promotions to evolve and grow, while the UFC falls behind.

 

[WilfordBrimley]

You're saying this now? Meisha was coming off a loss and got a titleshot. It's all about that paper with Dana.

 

[Tactitus]

It's kimbo all over again except the UFC should be above this kind of shit.

WMMA is pathetic.... One big fish amongst a sea of garbage.

Come on, man. Kimbo was a backyard brawler. Ronda is an Olympic medalist.

 

[Bazooka1**]

I am 32 years old and I have been watching MMA since 1995. I have been watching boxing since the late 90s. So I know very well who Christy Martin is. I also know who Mia St. John is.

They helped usher in the era of women in boxing and it's proven to be more than just a fad as there are world champions in multiple divisions nearly 20 years after those women were making headlines. Meanwhile, the Olympics have just put a women's division into their boxing ranks as well.

This is no fad. Women want to fight and a lot of people want to see them fight. If the UFC stops calling up female fighters in the future, it will just open the door for other promotions to evolve and grow, while the UFC falls behind.

If you think female boxing is big or grew since the 90's your sadly mistaken.

In all reality no one gives a damn about female boxing these days. Nuff said.