Media UFC Gillette Commercial

jeremyemilio said:
Sure. But it's implicit message is that most men are bad.

And there absolutely are parallels out there for other groups.

For over a century local news was BUILT around focusing in on black crime, and then playing innocent when people complained by saying "but, but, we aren't talking about ALL blacks... we're just reporting on the bad ones." Bullshit.

For a couple of decades now, conservative news outlets have been BUILT around focusing on crime committed by illegal immigrants, and then playing innocent when people complained by saying "but, but, we aren't talking about ALL immigrants... we're just reporting on the bad ones." Bullshit.

Since 9/11 talk radio has been BUILT around focusing on terrorism committed by Muslims, and then playing innocent when people complain by saying "but, but, we aren't talking about ALL immigrants... we're just discussing the bad ones." Bullshit.

And ditto for women, BTW. For millennia now religion and culture has made hay of dishonest, deceptive, disloyal women, and then playing innocent when people complain by saying "but, but, we aren't talking about ALL women... we're just warning people about the bad ones." Bullshit.

So now Gillette has an ad that focuses on the violence, sexism, and harassment committed by men, and then playing innocent when people complain by saying "but, but, we aren't talking about ALL men... we're just condemning the bad ones." Well guess what? BULLSHIT.

Still not convinced? Then, why don't you just tell me who in hell this ad is for? Are bad people supposed to watch this ad and say, "You know what? They're right. Maybe I SHOULD stop being such a sociopathic asshole."? Or is it for good people to watch and say, "Yup. I hate sociopathic assholes. I'ma buy me some razors."?

What's next? A toothpaste ad that condemns cannibalism?

"Take care of your teeth... but don't use them to eat people!"

Well no shit, Sherlock. Who here was going to eat people... other than, you know, psychopathic cannibals? And somehow I doubt your toothpaste ad is going to stop them.
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The video is targeting good men who may choose not to act when they witness bad behavior. It's targeting fathers who should model good behavior to their children. It's saying that hey, if your friend is creeping on some passed out girl at a party maybe you should tell him to stop. I don't think a megacorp is necessarily the one to deliver this message but I can't imagine finding this message offensive.
 
Toad Rogan said:
A talking head segment about restricting muslims from entering the US is not at all the same as the ad. This is a fear mongering segment with some misinformation aimed at pushing people to support specific policy that targets an entire group of people not based on their actions but based on their perceived threat based on being part of the group. The commercial is saying there is a problem that exists in society and here are examples of how to be a better person. If the commercial advocated laws against men because some men engage in bad behavior that would be the equivalent.

Also, how many people were victims of Islamic terrorism in the US last year? How many women were victims of sexual assault last year? Both are legitimate problems but one is much more endemic to society.
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just because you're a libtard you defend this shit commercial? lol you fucking cuck
 
Toad Rogan said:
The video is targeting good men who may choose not to act when they witness bad behavior. It's targeting fathers who should model good behavior to their children. It's saying that hey, if your friend is creeping on some passed out girl at a party maybe you should tell him to stop. I don't think a megacorp is necessarily the one to deliver this message but I can't imagine finding this message offensive.
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If you sit idly by and watch clearly abhorrent and immoral behavior take place when you clearly have the power to stop it, are you really a "good man"?

I'm not talking about jumping into a hail of gunfire or crazy stuff that's going to put your own life in danger. I'm talking about very obvious stuff like you mentioned, where simply stepping in could mean the difference between someone getting assaulted or not.

I honestly don't care about the commercial really. Do I find it "offensive"? IDK. No? Do I find any value whatsoever in a giant corporation telling people to be good fathers? Nope. That said, maybe there are people out there who somehow don't realize that the goal of the corporation in the end is to be profitable for its shareholders. And any message such as this should be looked at with some skepticism at the motivation of those who made it. So maybe it has some value...to someone...somewhere. I just don't know who that would be.
 
TheToqueville said:
LOL loving how triggered the inbred MAGA cucks are getting over this commercial.
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"HOW DARE THEY TELL US TO STOP SEXUALLY HARASSING WOMEN DERPPP!"


Who needs their safe spaces now ?

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LOOOOOOL Keep the salt coming!

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Look, a triggered soyboy telling us we're triggered HA HA HA
 
Ares Black said:
Way to be a stereotype. Men's values are bullying people and harassing women?
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You clearly miss the point . Way to be a brainwashed drone bro . Minus another man . They dropping like flys.

Well played proctor and gamble
 
Ulti1 said:
You clearly miss the point . Way to be a brainwashed drone bro . Minus another man . They dropping like flys.

Well played proctor and gamble
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Your grammar sucks. Is that another trait of a real man?
 
Toad Rogan said:
The video is targeting good men who may choose not to act when they witness bad behavior. It's targeting fathers who should model good behavior to their children. It's saying that hey, if your friend is creeping on some passed out girl at a party maybe you should tell him to stop. I don't think a megacorp is necessarily the one to deliver this message but I can't imagine finding this message offensive.
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It's only offensive for the same reasons it's offensive to continually tell Muslims they should do what they can to stop terrorism.

Men already DO this. This is what we have ALWAYS done. Why is it en vogue all of a sudden to pretend we don't? Or that we have a culture that needs to be changes because it endorses this sort of behaviour? The whole western ethos is BUILT around the idea of good men protecting the vulnerable.

Go back to the 1800's and read Dickens and Hardy. Go back further and read Milton and Shakespeare. Or further yet and read Malory.

Or just remember back to high school when you and your good guy friends (assuming you were a good guy) told the girl that she might want to stay away from that dirtbag that everyone of you knew was bad news... and she couldn't run to him fast enough.

Why are we acting like this is some sort of new message that needs to be voiced?

Better yet, why are we trying to pretend that the commercial is framed in a way that expresses appreciation to men for standing up against violence and bullying and misogyny when its clearly wagging its finger and shaking its head, in a disproving 'tsk, tsk'?
 
jeremyemilio said:
It's only offensive for the same reasons it's offensive to continually tell Muslims they should do what they can to stop terrorism.

Men already DO this. This is what we have ALWAYS done. Why is it en vogue all of a sudden to pretend we don't? Or that we have a culture that needs to be changes because it endorses this sort of behaviour? The whole western ethos is BUILT around the idea of good men protecting the vulnerable.

Go back to the 1800's and read Dickens and Hardy. Go back further and read Milton and Shakespeare. Or further yet and read Malory.

Or just remember back to high school when you and your good guy friends (assuming you were a good guy) told the girl that she might want to stay away from that dirtbag that everyone of you knew was bad news... and she couldn't run to him fast enough.

Why are we acting like this is some sort of new message that needs to be voiced?

Better yet, why are we trying to pretend that the commercial is framed in a way that expresses appreciation to men for standing up against violence and bullying and misogyny when its clearly wagging its finger and shaking its head, in a disproving 'tsk, tsk'?
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Spot on . Well said .

It's lost in all this feminist noise the fact that the vast majority of men dont act the way the men in this commercial do.
 
Toad Rogan said:
A talking head segment about restricting muslims from entering the US is not at all the same as the ad. This is a fear mongering segment with some misinformation aimed at pushing people to support specific policy that targets an entire group of people not based on their actions but based on their perceived threat based on being part of the group. The commercial is saying there is a problem that exists in society and here are examples of how to be a better person. If the commercial advocated laws against men because some men engage in bad behavior that would be the equivalent.

Also, how many people were victims of Islamic terrorism in the US last year? How many women were victims of sexual assault last year? Both are legitimate problems but one is much more endemic to society.
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See, now we get to the real reason that you're down with the ad. It's because you agree that men are a problem.

Not that there are (and always will be) problem anti-social men, just like there are (and always will be) problem anti-social women, and there are (and always will be) problem anti-social whites, and there are (and always will be) problem anti-social blacks, and there are (and always will be) problem anti-social Christians, and that there are (and always will be) problem anti-social Muslims...

... but that MEN have a problem... that men ARE a problem.

Go ahead an make an ad that condemns dealing drugs to children... but, damnit, don't make an ad for and about black men that condemns dealing drugs to children. NO ONE should deal drugs to children. EVERYONE should step in and stop people from dealing drugs to children.

What in hell does being a black man have to do with it? What would an ad like that be suggesting about black men?

Ditto for this ad. NO ONE should sexually harass their colleagues or bully their classmates or threaten or verbally abuse or physically harm another human being. EVERYONE should step in and do what they can to put a stop to anyone who they see sexually harassing their colleagues or bullying their classmates or threatening or verbally abusing or physically harming other human beings.

What in HOLY HELL does being a MAN have to do with it?
 
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Toad Rogan said:
Your last paragraph hits on the whole absurdity I find in the outrage over this - neither the video nor anybody that should be taken seriously is making the argument that every man is guilty of these problems. It's pointing out that some men do bad shit and as a man you shouldn't give that bad behavior a pass. As a man, I don't feel targeted by that message at all because I'm not someone that does that awful shit. I acknowledge some percentage of men do and I know people that have been victims. I think societal change away from giving men a pass for shitty behavior is a good thing.
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And therein lies the root of the disagreement. Many of us (most people, male and female, in fact, if the reaction to the ad is any indication) don't think that refusing to give anyone a pass for "shitty behaviour" is a societal change.

Again, you might as well pick some other random ill, like shoplifting, or tax evasion, or pyramid schemes, call it bad, say that some random group like teenage girls, or lobster fishermen, or Nigerian immigrants should stop giving each other a pass on it, and call it progress and pat yourself on the back for being "woke."
 
jeremyemilio said:
And therein lies the root of the disagreement. Many of us (most people, male and female, in fact, if the reaction to the ad is any indication) don't think that refusing to give anyone a pass for "shitty behaviour" is a societal change.

Again, you might as well pick some other random ill, like shoplifting, or tax evasion, or pyramid schemes, call it bad, say that some random group like teenage girls, or lobster fishermen, or Nigerian immigrants should stop giving each other a pass on it, and call it progress and pat yourself on the back for being "woke."
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Honestly , you're waaaaay too smart for the imbecile your "debating". All your responses are well written and logical . We need more people like you in this world and not morons who think stereotypes and sexism is ok as long as it's directed towards men.
 
Not at all surprised a whacko feminist wrote/directed that ad.

Whoever hired her should be fired.

I figured out 13-14 years ago that Gillette/ Schlick were crappy products. They irritate the skin and aren’t efficient in shaving or price. I did electric razors for years after that, but they give bad shaves on the neck and even the pricier ones only last 2-3 years. DE safety razor has been the best by far and they’re less expensive over the long haul.
 
jeremyemilio said:
And therein lies the root of the disagreement. Many of us (most people, male and female, in fact, if the reaction to the ad is any indication) don't think that refusing to give anyone a pass for "shitty behaviour" is a societal change.

Again, you might as well pick some other random ill, like shoplifting, or tax evasion, or pyramid schemes, call it bad, say that some random group like teenage girls, or lobster fishermen, or Nigerian immigrants should stop giving each other a pass on it, and call it progress and pat yourself on the back for being "woke."
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It's a known fact that Lobster fisherman cheat on their taxes. That's not stereotyping, that's just facts.
 
That commercial used that ugly cunt from Chunk Yogurt's show? The one who bitches about fat shaming and then called Alex Jones fat? The one who married an illegal? Yeah she is a cunt, and fuck Gillette. But I buy their shit from Costco, so they make little off of me.
 
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