UFC Fox 23 - Pena vs Shevchenko - Denver

[PuertoRican]

So it is actually an alt account of someone? Interesting. I literally have no clue.

He has been around for quite awhile, right under your nose. You just never stepped back to assess what was what and who was who.

By the time you figure it out, it'll be too late and he'll be gone forever.

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[Stunna77]

Pena r1 and r2 props are so juicy. both in the +1000 range. If Pena doesn't find a finish in the first 2 then I think she loses. If Pena finds a way to win a decision or finish in rounds 3-5 I will be surprised.

Could you expound on that a bit? Pena doesn't seem to have cardio issues. I could see her potentially getting Shev to the mat, but not finishing and winning 3 rounds via top control..

 

[BluntTrauma21]

let's just say i have a good idea who it is & have for a while.

Please pm me I would love to know who you're thinking. Possible mind blown situation.

 

[rille31]

let's just say i have a good idea who it is & have for a while.

My money is on crewman, the original goat troll

 

[BluntTrauma21]

We've been lucky enough to have some good trolls in these threads throughout the years. I'd put crewman and Barry or crewman/Barry up against most other forum trolls.

 

[LEMONZEST]

Could you expound on that a bit? Pena doesn't seem to have cardio issues. I could see her potentially getting Shev to the mat, but not finishing and winning 3 rounds via top control..

When you fight in Colorado and don't train at elevation you all of a sudden develop cardio issues. Of Pena's last 4 fights 2 were dec. wins and 2 were r1 KO. Both the decision wins were of course 3 round decision wins.

Shev is getting better and I have to imagine she is training TDD like crazy for this fight as she is weak off her back.

Shev's gameplan is gonna be 5 rounds of pitter patter which is very doable after Pena gases after r2.

Seems pretty clear since Shev is training at elevation and Pena says she doesn't care about it...

EDIT: I also think Pena is very frustrated at this point in her career. She feels sidelined and I think she realizes she needs to finish in impressive fashion to start getting some attention around her. I don't think Pena is considering a decision win as a real option.

 

[Rebel_LioN]

Knight -145 NSC

On it

 

[wack3d]

When you fight in Colorado and don't train at elevation you all of a sudden develop cardio issues. Of Pena's last 4 fights 2 were dec. wins and 2 were r1 KO. Both the decision wins were of course 3 round decision wins.

Shev is getting better and I have to imagine she is training TDD like crazy for this fight as she is weak off her back.

Shev's gameplan is gonna be 5 rounds of pitter patter which is very doable after Pena gases after r2.

Seems pretty clear since Shev is training at elevation and Pena says she doesn't care about it...

EDIT: I also think Pena is very frustrated at this point in her career. She feels sidelined and I think she realizes she needs to finish in impressive fashion to start getting some attention around her. I don't think Pena is considering a decision win as a real option.

i dont think not training at elevation automatically means someone will gas at least not when we talk 135'er hwo have never shown cardio issues.. but i could be wrong i have never fought or even been somewhere with this kind of elevation

 

[LEMONZEST]

Knight -145 NSC

On it

share some money money parlays niqqa!!

 

[LEMONZEST]

i dont think not training at elevation automatically means someone will gas at least not when we talk 135'er hwo have never shown cardio issues.. but i could be wrong i have never fought or even been somewhere with this kind of elevation

Gassing is a relative term... If you compare Pena to Shev (who is training at elevation) Shev is gonna look fresh in r4 and r5 comparatively.

I don't mean to sound like a know it all....this is just how I see the fight going...

 

[iGnP]

let's just say i have a good idea who it is & have for a while.

Oh please PM and share your thoughts

 

[Rebel_LioN]

Flying out to Denver this weekend for this event and to do some shredding in the mountains. As a gambler, I don't see the point in going to live events but because I don't have any huge leans on this card and that I don't see a lot of value the card, I probably won't put too much at stake.

There are too many bums on the bottom half of the card and I dont think any of them are good enough to even stick around in the UFC so I'm thinking of just showing up when the Sterling/Assuncao fight starts.

I do have a 3 man lotto parlay set up for this one though:

Assuncao dec +157
Valentina dec +185
Knight submission +655

1u ($50)/2,800

The first two are plausible and Knight sub is obviously the gamble.

 

[Cptn1NSAN0]

ok fair enough but that's only one aspect of the fight. Cowboy could easily get this to the ground and people sometimes forget how good his jiu jitsu is because he has recently been winning with those viscious head kicks. Cerrone is easily the more well rounded fighter and even if masvidals speed gives him a problem he can win the fight by taking him to the ground.

How does Cowboy easily get Masvidal to the ground? Mas is the better wrestler and if taken down will pop right back up.

 

[HeDucking]

How does Cowboy easily get Masvidal to the ground? Mas is the better wrestler and if taken down will pop right back up.

I think some people want to find gaps so their bet seems safe. Masvidal has amazing TDD. I would be surprised to see this fight go to the ground and if it does, I would expect Mas to scramble asap.

I wouldnt even say Cerrone is "easily" the more well rounded fighter. Cerrone just empploys his kicks more making him more well rounded.

 

[Sham5916910]

Mas aint getting held down

 

[BluntTrauma21]

Masvidal has beautiful boxing he'll have an advantage if he can get close and make Cowboy throw hands with him. Then again Cerrone's so good with those head kicks especially that switch that it's hard to think he won't be getting some big shots through himself, even if Mas is controlling the distance for the most part.

Should be a fun fight haven't bet it but if I was on mas then I'd just worry about his lack of urgency at times.

 

[Card]

I just had surgery on my ankle but it was healing, but when they offered, I accepted knew it would be ok, I would have retired if I didn't go back to Wittman, self doubt and injuries from over training, now I'm healthy, athletically I'm as good as I've ever been, I know alot of people will be there for me, but I have to keep my focus

 

[Monster Meat]

How does Cowboy easily get Masvidal to the ground? Mas is the better wrestler and if taken down will pop right back up.

I didn't say he would easily get him to the ground. I just think cerrone is the more well rounded fighter and in my opinion he's better in more areas than masvidal. Obviously we haven't seen what would happen when they match up but the level of competition masvidal has faced is nowhere near the level cerrone has faced.

 

[Monster Meat]

I think some people want to find gaps so their bet seems safe. Masvidal has amazing TDD. I would be surprised to see this fight go to the ground and if it does, I would expect Mas to scramble asap.

I wouldnt even say Cerrone is "easily" the more well rounded fighter. Cerrone just empploys his kicks more making him more well rounded.

Obviously the people who are betting whichever fighter have their reasons and I stated mine. I also said that masvidal is a tough fighter and this is not a gimme fight by any means. I just feel that cerrone is always underestimated and all he has done is win 12 out of the last 13. Masvidal could very well be the fighter to stop the streak but I just don't think he has what it takes we shall see.

 

[waiguoren]

Hometown Fighters:

1. Donald Cerrone (undefeated in Colorado)

2. Jeremy Kimball


Fighters over 35 years old:

1. Nate Marquardt (37)

2. Andrei Arlovski (37)