UFC Fox 23 - Pena vs Shevchenko - Denver

[Card]

http://www.ufc.com/fighter/Jordan-Johnson

TRAINING: I train harder than everyone else.

Thoughts on opponent, Henrique da Silva? No gas tank

When and why did you start training for fighting? 2012, following college wrestling

What ranks and titles have you held? D1 wrestler at the University of Iowa. Two-time University All-American (freestyle wrestling), IBJJF no gi world Champ. RFA light heavyweight world champion

Specific accomplishments in amateur competition? Duel for Domination champion

Specific accomplishments in pro competition? Awarded 2015 RFA Submission of the Year

 

[Card]

http://www.ufc.com/fighter/eric-shelton

TRAINING: In fight camp, I Try to get three sessions in a day – Striking, strength and conditioning, grappling.

Thoughts on opponent, Alexandre Pantoja? Great fighter, well rounded, but too slow.

What ranks and titles have you held? Caged Aggression flyweight title, XFS flyweight title

Specific accomplishments in amateur competition? Won six titles

http://www.ufc.com/fighter/Alexandre-Pantoja

TRAINING: Hard work every day.

Thoughts on opponent, Eric Shelton? Good fighter, strong and fast.

When and why did you start training for fighting? After competing in jiu-jitsu and Muay Thai and proving myself a good fighter in both arts, I saw that I could be an MMA fighter and that this could be my job.

What ranks and titles have you held? State champion of jiu-jitsu in Bahia and Rio de Janeiro. Muay Thai national and state champion in Rio de Janeiro. South American Shooto champion. RFA champion. AXS TV Super fight Legacy vs. RFA champion

 

[Cptn1NSAN0]

My bad for double posting, but I originally posted this in the Bellator thread when I meant to post it here. Then again it goes with all of my double accounts that I can't keep straight lols



Dude you're trolling me right lol

Ok I admit it, I'm actually Barry with a Goodfella dupe account and I used to post as Mike Nason. Of course this was all before my original moderator account name Positive Balance was banned for my crazed idolatry of BJ Penn. indeed, I lost mod duties after I was seeing teh "Prodigy" in my grilled cheese sandwiches and dropping the hammer on those who weren't.

We got all of this straightened out. We good now?

Gotta clock back into work here at my boring old newspaper job under the name of Clark Kent. I would post more often these days but my arms and legs are worn out for some reason. Of course I do know a guy who can reverse time but… it's so hard to find a fucking telephone booth these days!

Its cool man, I dont expect you to come clean. Just know that I know...

 

[iGnP]

Lol let someone compare you to the autistic spectrum betting poster that is Barry and see how rustled you'd get! Lol

O's right though, before his occasional "expert picks" gimmick he does now, Barry would post much more frequently and engage in conversation somewhat. But it became a running joke almost whereas he was actually talking about jumping off a bridge and shit from going bankrupt. He has been around for a long time, he just continues to reinvent himself like Madonna or something LOL

Yeah i was here for that. It makes his 'expert picks' so much more LOL worthy.

 

[EzFlyer]

idk if these are the best prices, kinda out of it this week, lol..

but i hit

ngannou rd 2 +475
dichirico DEC +290
assuncao DEC +157

 

[Monster Meat]

Styles make fights. Speed kills. Boxing Cerrone's kryptonite.

ok fair enough but that's only one aspect of the fight. Cowboy could easily get this to the ground and people sometimes forget how good his jiu jitsu is because he has recently been winning with those viscious head kicks. Cerrone is easily the more well rounded fighter and even if masvidals speed gives him a problem he can win the fight by taking him to the ground.

 

[EzFlyer]

lol @ ngannou rd 1 -155... while "fight won't start rd 2 -156"

 

[t6p]

Hit these all small:

Pena SUB +615
Ngannou RD2 +475
Sterling SUB +1035

 

[EzFlyer]

Yeah he missed weight and looked like shit for that fight too. Just skimmed a few of his fights and he showed good cardio, aggressive volume striking with okay kicks, good timing on his takedowns, but not a great wrestler, decent top game. I am guessing he will be giving up quite a bit of size and power to De Lima though. Not sure if he can take De Lima down and he is hittable. Would like to hear your take EZ since you've followed him a bit.

my take is.. lima is a huge flake. he's a dangerous dude early. he'll be CONSIDERABLY stronger and definitely bigger than kimball. kimball short notice shouldn't be taken too lightly, especially in denver (granted, he trains there IIRC) -- but i wanna see just how soft he is at weighins before i even consider him.

de lima definitely slows down, tho, if no early stoppage.. could be a live bet spot on kimball possibly.

 

[EzFlyer]

Hit these all small:

Pena SUB +615
Ngannou RD2 +475
Sterling SUB +1035

i lookd at sterling sub, myself -- sterling ITD is +5xx i think, hrmm

pena similarly -- it is like 50/50 tko or sub for me if pena gets a stoppage, maybe ITD +333 is better (or NSC -105)

 

[t6p]

i lookd at sterling sub, myself -- sterling ITD is +5xx i think, hrmm

pena similarly -- it is like 50/50 tko or sub for me if pena gets a stoppage, maybe ITD +333 is better (or NSC -105)

While neither is terribly likely, Sterling sub is quite a bit more likely than ko IMO. Had to play it at those odds.

I'm on Valentina but like Pena sub as a psuedo hedge. Valentina seems to be extremely durable but she did give up some bad positions on the ground vs Nunes. If I was on Pena, I'd definitely prefer her NSC line to her ML.

 

[EzFlyer]

i'm not uber confident here, but i have this feeling that shev vs pena won't go 5. i'm thinking about taking it at +money does not go 5. i think pena could finish her on the ground in the first couple or could wilt later on.. maybe a later shev TKO.. hrmmm.

i might actually play this.

granted, i'm already rooting for that, because if i have to watch shevchenko pitterpatter for 25 mins i'm gonna fall asleep...

 

[EzFlyer]

I don't think a lot of people know how long of a history Barry has here. It was long before his "expert picks" thing he's doing now. He was a normal poster and just kept losing and losing. He transitioned it into a gimmick which has been pretty funny. He used to post at the same time as Goodfella before he started the "expert pick" thing, so it would be really creepy if they were the same person.

let's just say i have a good idea who it is & have for a while.

 

[Orion]

lol @ Pena's coach telling fighters in the gym to not block body shots and leg kicks because only pussies get hurt by them

 

[Oblivian]

let's just say i have a good idea who it is & have for a while.

So it is actually an alt account of someone? Interesting. I literally have no clue.

 

[wack3d]

took
arlovski ko +760 thats too much for a hw fight
masvidal ko +855 ya not that likely but these odds are worth a shot imo

 

[wack3d]

its ridicolous how far the opening lines jumps with tiny bets =/ like masvidal ko goes from +855 straight to +650

 

[raketmannen]

ngannou rd 2 +700 at bet365, hitting that for sure

 

[wack3d]

ok fair enough but that's only one aspect of the fight. Cowboy could easily get this to the ground and people sometimes forget how good his jiu jitsu is because he has recently been winning with those viscious head kicks. Cerrone is easily the more well rounded fighter and even if masvidals speed gives him a problem he can win the fight by taking him to the ground.

its not that easy to take mas down let alone keep him down..

mas basically said he would retire if cerrone was able to hold him down

 

[LEMONZEST]

Pena r1 and r2 props are so juicy. both in the +1000 range. If Pena doesn't find a finish in the first 2 then I think she loses. If Pena finds a way to win a decision or finish in rounds 3-5 I will be surprised.