UFC Fighter's Husband has legit Nazi tattoos he won't cover

[Diamond Jim]

I recently watched Shotcaller so I’ll allow it.

 

[TidWell]

Hitler was a vegetarian so I guess that isn’t too unusual. I wonder how many Neo-Nazis are vegans or vegetarians? haha

Edit, found this interesting: “several contemporaneous witnesses—such as Albert Speer (in his memoirs, Inside the Third Reich)—noting that Hitler used vivid and gruesome descriptions of animal suffering and slaughter at the dinner table to try to dissuade his colleagues from eating meat.”

no wonder these vegans on youtube act like nazi's

 

[chardog]

I dont make it a habit of telling people to cover up their shitty tattoos, they can learn from discrimination.

 

[High Altitude]

Doesn’t look good when you acknowledge the tats, then say how you refuse to get them covered up or lasered off.

He is free to do whatever he wants, but there are always consequences.

He should stop being thick headed, cover them up and move on.

 

[Liquid Smoke]

The fact that he is more concerned with the aesthetics of covering it up than the repercussions of having a swastika on his arm really makes me question his excuses. I kinda think he is just full of shit, but he is welcome to walk around with any tattoo he wants.

He's full of shit or legit retarded.
"I don't want some ugly block of ink on my arm, think I'll just keep the swasticker!"

 

[TidWell]

What I always find interesting is a lot of these Male white supremacists in the Desert in Southern California date Asian women, one of them even has a kid with an Asian woman, I think they made a special rule where they can date out of their race but white women cant or something.

I seen it with the black supremacist as well, my cousins friend is a hardcore pro black militant yet he married a filipino woman. He said its okay because rulers hundreds of years ago would take brides from different countries or tribes they conquered but it was only wrong for the women to mate outside their race

Its a weird logic that makes no sense to be honest.

This guy right here is a white power guy and he married a Japanese women they have half white half Asian kids, I bet he probably posts on Sherdog or had an account lol

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

I recently watched Shotcaller so I’ll allow it.

surprisingly good movie -- crazy ending.

 

[Alex]

I don’t see any problem with this and I strongly dislike National Socialists.

This.
What does it matter what tattoos he has if he doesn't promote it in any shape of form.

 

[KnightTemplar]

What I always find interesting is a lot of these Male white supremacists in the Desert in Southern California date Asian women, one of them even has a kid with an Asian woman, I think they made a special rule where they can date out of their race but white women cant or something.

I seen it with the black supremacist as well, my cousins friend is a hardcore pro black militant yet he married a filipino woman. He said its okay because rulers hundreds of years ago would take brides from different countries or tribes they conquered but it was only wrong for the women to mate outside their race

Its a weird logic that makes no sense to be honest.

This guy right here is a white power guy and he married a Japanese women they have half white half Asian kids, I bet he probably posts on Sherdog or had an account lol

The last one isn't surprising; the OG Nazis regarded Japanese as, "honoury Aryans"

 

[EGarrett]

Not buying the "if I cover it up, it would look like dark mess" excuse.

That swastika is tiny

Yup, and the "I cover it up in public" claim that both he and his wife made is pure bullshit. His instagram and hers are covered with pictures of him in short sleeves out in public.

 

[EGarrett]

He should stop being thick headed, cover them up and move on.

It's too late now.

 

[EGarrett]

So is white pride. So that's okay? Got it.
Let's not pretend that the whole world wouldn't blow out their colons over a white pride tattoo.

It depends what the group is actually associated with. For example, there are Italian-American Pride Parades and St. Patrick's Day Parades and no one cares. Both of those consist of white people having pride in their heritage. But people who have tattoos from the Yakuza or Sinaloa Cartel in Mexico are not received so warmly anywhere where people recognize them. Because those groups, who of course are not white, have done horrible things to people.

 

[eon001]

Why is"black power" ok with the UFC? I'm not a pussy skinned bitch, so tattoos don't bug me, but it shouldn't matter if it's a white guy, black guy, and everything in between

Black power hasn't got a history of oppression, murder and subjugation. White power is linked to the KKK and Nazism. There history explains itself.

Black power is a direct response to that made to protect and defend the oppressed, similar to the brown pride thing too. Black power is linked to the Black Panthers that's only violent clashes were associated in the PROTECTION of minorities. No Black Panthers burned down churches.

I'm not a whiny snowflake, I'm offering you facts.

 

[TheGreatA]

What I always find interesting is a lot of these Male white supremacists in the Desert in Southern California date Asian women, one of them even has a kid with an Asian woman, I think they made a special rule where they can date out of their race but white women cant or something.

I seen it with the black supremacist as well, my cousins friend is a hardcore pro black militant yet he married a filipino woman. He said its okay because rulers hundreds of years ago would take brides from different countries or tribes they conquered but it was only wrong for the women to mate outside their race

Its a weird logic that makes no sense to be honest.

This guy right here is a white power guy and he married a Japanese women they have half white half Asian kids, I bet he probably posts on Sherdog or had an account lol

White supremacist gangs in America have largely developed due to how the prisons are being ran in America, by separating prisoners between ethnicities. People join them due to necessity rather than any particular feelings of racial supremacy.

There's no logic because there's no ideology behind it. If the prisons were ran in a different way in America, gangs like the "Aryan Brotherhood" would probably disappear from the face of the earth. These people don't care so much about race, as much as they care about survival under a race-based system.

If you take away the requirement to "gang up" amongst members of your own ethnicity in order to survive these prisons, then most people wouldn't give much of a shit about "white power".

However, the prison establishment in America continue to believe that setting up conflict and dividing people between the races decreases the effort of running prisons, as most of the hostility is then directed against other ethnic gangs rather than the prison establishment itself, therefore we will probably continue to see ethnic gangs develop within such institutions.

 

[n...not crazy]

Are you equating all of white nationalism with Neo Nazi ideology?

Imagine a guy with a WHITE PRIDE tattoo training at your gym. Like, actually imagine it.

I realize the SS was a whole 'nother level historically. So no I'm not equating it. But that's not how things are treated. I'd expect a very similar reaction from the people at the gym. I think generally people will equate it.

I wouldn't expect "Oh, it's just a white pride tattoo. No big deal, at least it's not a swastika!"

What's gonna be thought and muttered is "Look at this fucking racist asshole." Either way.

Eh, blame the groups that have used it as a rallying cry, let's not pretend the phrase doesn't have a history. Is there a group that used Brown Pride as a slogan while committing racist acts?

I don't know man. I'm just taking a step back and calling it the same shit.I'm not here for societal dissection. Brown Pride, White Pride, Black Pride... whatever. All equally moronic and embarrassing in my eyes. I guess I'm just a simpleton.

 

[KnightTemplar]

It depends what the group is actually associated with. For example, there are Italian-American Pride Parades and St. Patrick's Day Parades and no one cares. Both of those consist of white people having pride in their heritage. But people who have tattoos from the Yakuza or Sinaloa Cartel in Mexico are not received so warmly anywhere where people recognize them. Because those groups, who of course are not white, have done horrible things to people.

Interestingly, the OG Aryan Brotherhood was started by Irish American inmates. One of the tattoos most associated with the gang is the Shamrock.

 

[smiles mma]

Black power hasn't got a history of oppression, murder and subjugation. White power is linked to the KKK and Nazism which history explains itself. Black power is a direct response to that made to protect and defend the oppressed, similar to the brown pride thing too. Black power is linked to the Black Panthers that's only violent clashes were associated in the PROTECTION of minorities. No Black Panthers burned down churches.

I'm not a whiny snowflake, I'm offering you facts.

Black power sounds like looting entitled brats, genosidal gorilla fighters, and racism, but to each is own.

 

[JonnyRingo84]

Saw this in the heavies, figured we could actually get a decent discussion in the War Room about it. Maybe, eh probably not. Still a karate subforum after all

Anyways, Andrea Lee's husband and coach has legit Nazi prison tattoos. Not some questionable cross or design that some maintain is a white supremacy symbol and others say is just an innocent Celtic roots or simply a cool shape he liked. I'm talking a swastika on one arm, and "SS" on the other arm

Andrea says people need to get over themselves. They were a mistake from the past that he has learned and grown from. They have a black and asian guy living with them so they're not racist, and he typically wears long sleeves to cover them up but they forgot about the 20 year old tats when out at a lake day and she posted the tweet. After seeing the swastika, people went digging and found the SS tat in an older pic

His response-

As to why he wouldn't cover up an old tattoo that no longer defines who he is-

Cover up of something so dark would A) look like shit and B) gives him the ability to reach out to current inmates who can perhaps become reformed and no longer hateful like him. So he'll keep the hugely racist markings on his arms


So what do you say Sherdog? 20 year old prison tats. Condemn as a Nazi, call an idiot for not covering up, or feel that they can be ok and maybe even useful as a scar to show the road a person traveled to get to where they are today

Bonus points- Would your viewpoint be the same of an old "Allaha Akbar" tattoo on a person?
((Possibly not the best comparison, but ISIS is too recent to be a fair comparison))

OP is dumb on several counts.

the issue isnt whether people are offended exactly. the issue is.....does the fighting org have a right to protect itself against this person's tats? if the UFC, or whoever, has fighters on its roster with swastika tats on tv, that is bad for the org. 99% of people are not going to research this person and find out that they claim to be a reformed good guy former nazi now. theyll just see, "oh....the ufc has nazis fighting."

lastly, "allaha akbar" as you say simply means "god is great." lots of people say that who arent in isis. on the other hand, there are very few, if any, non-nazis that value the swastika symbol (other than Hindus).

 

[eon001]

Black power sounds like looting entitled brats, genosidal gorilla fighters, and racism, but to each is own.

That maybe what it sounds like to you, but it aint.

 

[lfd0311]

This tired fallacy again. Nobody is triggered simply because we're discussing something on.... a discussion forum.

"He's a F**KING SCUMBAG!!" now equals "discussion"....