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UFC exaggerating McGregor's reach?

McGregors arms look longer to me his shoulders are higher 2 inches isn't much of a difference thats 1 inch for each arm.
 
imo his reach isn't that big a deal, because there are plenty of guys at FW and LW with similar or longer reach.

he's just amazing at using it properly, distance control and making that left seem long as fuck.
 
Conor has wide shoulders. Reach is measured with arms spanned and includes the width of the shoulder girdle, fingertip to fingertip. If Chad had 66" arms, his reach would be incredible. I'm sure many posters understand the reach measurement, but I question a few of you.
 
Agnawedbone said:
How the hell did you get that? Aldo rushed in head-first and Conor just stood there and ate Aldo's punch without even trying to slip, reach had nothing to do with it. Not to mention in the first exchange Aldo slipped McGregor's punch and successfully countered with a left hook, so Conor's reach advantage wasn't what Aldo had trouble with: it was McGregor's timing, power, chin, and confidence.
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Aldo barely slipped Conor's left, which Conor didn't set up at all, and he didn't land the left hook he attempted to counter off of it that you say he did. Look at the Fight Metric stats and it'll show that 1 punch (1 strike total) was landed by Aldo, which was the last one. Conor blocked the first left hook with his right hand to the inner bicep and head far away from it protected by his lead shoulder and then jabbed him hard to the chest to create space. Aldo tried a little check hook again as he was going back which missed by a mile.

It's convenient to say that Aldo just rushed in head first and all that but Aldo did move his head and he already had lead foot dominance. He feinted the right and was going for the left hook, which he was able to land but not where he wanted it. Conor stepped away, parried the right hand feint, landed his left and that was it. Conor could've ducked/rolled under the left hook or sidestepped to avoid it. He could've blocked it as well but he'd just parried his right hand feint with his own.
 
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Reach is not Arm A + Arm B. You have to add in width of shoulders.

Conor could have the same arm size of Dustin, and still have wider shoulders. He probably does since he's big.
 
Whatever ... Next you will tell me shane carwin isnt actually 6 foot 5
 
Faceplanter said:
Aldo barely slipped Conor's left, which Conor didn't set up at all, and he didn't land the left hook he attempted to counter off of it that you say he did. Look at the Fight Metric stats and it'll show that 1 punch (1 strike total) was landed by Aldo, which was the last one. Conor blocked the first left hook with his right hand to the inner bicep and head far away from it protected by his lead shoulder and then jabbed him hard to the chest to create space. Aldo tried a little check hook again as he was going back which missed by a mile.
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Hmm, I was just going by how it looked when I watched it live, though he did kind of duck out of it I thought the hook landed. Unfortunately it was on the opposite side of the camera so it wasn't completely clear, really wish we could see exactly what happened from the other side.

It's convenient to say that Aldo just rushed in head first and all that but Aldo did move his head and he already had lead foot dominance. He feinted the right and was going for the left hook, which he was able to land but not where he wanted it. Conor stepped away, parried the right hand feint, landed his left and that was it. Conor could've ducked/rolled under the left hook or sidestepped to avoid it. He could've blocked it as well but he'd just parried his right hand feint with his own.
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Certainly all of that is correct, but it doesn't change that Aldo rushed in sloppily, something we haven't seen him do since before the Edgar fight, against the worst stylistic match up possible for it to work.
 
UFC likes to exaggerate it's $ makers.

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Stop the presses!!! The UFC used height weight and or reach information which was not completely accurate. Extra, extra, read all about it!!
 
Agnawedbone said:
Not to mention in the first exchange Aldo slipped McGregor's punch and successfully countered with a left hook
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Successfully? Uhm, in the FIRST exchange Aldo's hook missed by about 3 feet.

In the other exchange, the one in which Aldo got put to sleep, he landed a post KO left that I believe cut Connor's eyebrow.


(but I agree that it was definitely timing, not reach that was the important factor here.)


It is kind of amazing though that in a 13 second fight, both guys got cut and were bleeding (and probably needed stitches) and one guy got put to sleep. Imagine if these two fought a few rounds? It would be a bloodbath... though I honestly don't think Jose lasts that long with Connor, I think he can obviously do better than he did but Connor timed that shot PERFECTLY and it only took him 2 exchanges to land one that clean (and in the first exchange I think Connor landed a strike that cut Aldo's nose pretty badly, he couldn't stop the bleeding while he was getting interviewed a few minutes later)
 
jeff7b9 said:
Successfully? Uhm, in the FIRST exchange Aldo's hook missed by about 3 feet.

In the other exchange, the one in which Aldo got put to sleep, he landed a post KO left that I believe cut Connor's eyebrow.


(but I agree that it was definitely timing, not reach that was the important factor here.)
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Aldo's left hand physically connected with Conor. It may have been blocked, and Conor may have used his missed jab to press Aldo and mess it up, but it absolutely physically connected so I have no idea where you're getting this bullshit three feet thing from. Conor barely avoided it.
 
Agnawedbone said:
Aldo's left hand physically connected with Conor. It may have been blocked, and Conor may have used his missed jab to press Aldo and mess it up, but it absolutely physically connected so I have no idea where you're getting this bullshit three feet thing from. Conor barely avoided it.
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aldo threw 2 lefts in the first exchange, first hit conor's hand or arm or whatever and the second was a pretty big whiff.

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Agnawedbone said:
Hmm, I was just going by how it looked when I watched it live, though he did kind of duck out of it I thought the hook landed. Unfortunately it was on the opposite side of the camera so it wasn't completely clear, really wish we could see exactly what happened from the other side.

Certainly all of that is correct, but it doesn't change that Aldo rushed in sloppily, something we haven't seen him do since before the Edgar fight, against the worst stylistic match up possible for it to work.
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I've seen it slide by slide. Luke Thomas actually did a breakdown that I created a thread about and it shows it clearly. You can watch it in slow motion as well but Youtube might skip it since it happens so fast and their speed controls suck. Watching it in VLC media player will show it or in a GIF slowed down a lot.

Aldo made mistakes but as Patrick Wyman said maybe only two or three fighters on the whole UFC roster could've countered it when he blitzed in. It's more of what Conor did right and less of what Aldo actually did wrong. The major mistake that Aldo did make was not selling his right hand feint well enough before loading up on his left hook.
 
Agnawedbone said:
Thank you for adding literally nothing to the conversation?
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thanks for staying upset, you were saying you dont know where this " missed by 3 feet " shit was coming from.

the last shot aldo throws in the first exchange missed by quite a bit.
 
UFC going WWE with measurements...

did you start watching?
 
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