UFC contracts and BJJ, boxing and bare knuckle organizations

[Lionheart7167]

Does anyone know how a UFC contract is actually structured?

I've seen UFC fighter's compete in BJJ and Sambo tournaments while still under contract, but it doesn't seem like they can compete in bare knuckle or boxing.

I'm sure it depends on the actual fighter. There's a big difference between a Mcgregor and a Buckley.

Is it written in that certain combat sports are allowed while other's are not?

 

[Hellowhosthat]

Yes, they aren't allowed to do sports where they're going to take large amounts of damage

 

[Only Here for Attachments]

Independent contractors are supposed to be able to do whatever they want.

 

[teknien]

Independent contractors are supposed to be able to do whatever they want.

correct they are independent contractors. meaning they can sign a contract with whom ever they want. the restrictions are within the contract. and all UFC contracts are different for every fighter, they dont have a cookie cutter contract, though there is a cookie cutter baseline. depending on the fighter, management, lawyer's abilities the contracts will differ.

 

[OldBoy91]

Yes, they aren't allowed to do sports where they're going to take large amounts of damage

Do you think they have been told they have to tap early in bjj comps?

I mean, they aren't going to get any CTE in jiu-jitsu tournaments or "super fights" but there's always the chance of getting your knee shredded apart.

 

[KillerIsBack V2]

Does anyone know how a UFC contract is actually structured?

I've seen UFC fighter's compete in BJJ and Sambo tournaments while still under contract, but it doesn't seem like they can compete in bare knuckle or boxing.

I'm sure it depends on the actual fighter. There's a big difference between a Mcgregor and a Buckley.

Is it written in that certain combat sports are allowed while other's are not?

Sambo? Bjj? Those arent real pro sports… the UFC does it’s own bjj events for UFC fighters for fun. Where have you been in the last few quintets.

I’ve competed in official open IBJJF tournaments and I’m a hobbyist and I suck. You lose money even if you win.

Those big tournaments you hear about like ADCC are funded by rich Dubai princes. Even Craig Jone’s recent 1 million dollar prize was from an anonymous UAE invester. That’s why the Shiekh only does ADCC once every two years. They dont gain money from it.

Nobody really makes a living from competing in those, but from teaching seminars, opening a gym, selling instructional videos, and if you’re in the top 5% the occasional sponsor.

Independent contractors are supposed to be able to do whatever they want.

BS, doesnt matter if you’re the queen of England, a contract with restrictions is a legal leash on your external business opportunities. That’s what Francis was crying about for 5 years until he left for boxing, and signed with PFL instead of UFC with a specific paragraph that allows him to box while under contract.

 

[TempleoftheDog]

Independent contractors are supposed to be able to do whatever they want.

Not unless they’re honouring their contracts with me first.

A HUGE amount of pro athletes aren’t allowed to do certain activities while under contract. Can’t ride motorcycles, or skydive.. and several other inherently dangerous activities, or sports. Bjj/grappling is not as dangerous as a lot of combat sports. But career ending injuries do happen.

So no.. If someone signed a contract with me they better honour it. Because I will. But if you die in the BKFC (It happened). You are NOT going to be able to honour your UFC contract with me, right?

But as a businessman you would have to honour your contract with me first. We both willingly signed it, afterall.

And nobody expects people to die in “sports”. But it literally happens everyday.

Either you can see all the facets of a situation. Or you’re myopic.. and it’s usually because you have an agenda.

 

[Only Here for Attachments]

, doesnt matter if you’re the queen of England, a contract with restrictions is a legal leash on your external business opportunities.

Okay, then try telling your next realtor or landscaper that they can't work with anyone else in your neighborhood for the duration of the contract.

 

[Sticko]

It depends. The UFC can often keep retired UFC fighters from doing other combat sports if they don't release them. However in some cases it seems they either can't or simply choose not to. For example Jose Aldo did two boxing matches during his brief retirement from MMA.

 

[KillerIsBack V2]

Okay, then try telling your next realtor or landscaper that they can't work with anyone else in your neighborhood for the duration of the contract.

Try understanding what you’re replying to before replying.
If that realtor signed a contract that says he cant work with everyone else during that time, then he would be breaking contract.

Dont be a fool read everything before you sign. Especially if it was prepared by a corporate legal team to screw you over.

 

[Only Here for Attachments]

If that realtor signed a contract that says he cant work with everyone else during that time, then he would be breaking contract.

That would be ruled unenforceable.
Source: 15 years in the real estate industry. People have tried this very thing, believe me!

 

[cmw43]

That would be ruled unenforceable.
Source: 15 years in the real estate industry. People have tried this very thing, believe me!

And people have tried to break their UFC contracts to box, the only way out is to fulfill all your fight obligations or cut the UFC in on enough money that it's worth their while.

 

[Only Here for Attachments]

And people have tried to break their UFC contracts to box, the only way out is to fulfill all your fight obligations or cut the UFC in on enough money that it's worth their while.

Or be Jose Aldo and box low-ranking guys (eg not Jake Paul) with UFC's blessing.

 

[JosephTessaro]

I have never seen a UFC contract. I am sure they all vary, however it appears the UFC does not want their (contracted) fighters to fight under other promotions wherein the fighter/promotion makes money. Unless it is on their terms with some crazy cash being up for grabs (Conor/Floyd) type exception.

It does appear they allow fighters to compete in various tournaments...likely little to no money earned and allowing fighters to work on their skills...

 

[Dr. Rose]

Not unless they’re honouring their contracts with me first.

A HUGE amount of pro athletes aren’t allowed to do certain activities while under contract. Can’t ride motorcycles, or skydive.. and several other inherently dangerous activities, or sports. Bjj/grappling is not as dangerous as a lot of combat sports. But career ending injuries do happen.

So no.. If someone signed a contract with me they better honour it. Because I will. But if you die in the BKFC (It happened). You are NOT going to be able to honour your UFC contract with me, right?

But as a businessman you would have to honour your contract with me first. We both willingly signed it, afterall.

And nobody expects people to die in “sports”. But it literally happens everyday.

Either you can see all the facets of a situation. Or you’re myopic.. and it’s usually because you have an agenda.

Great points that people neglect to factor into the conversation. I cannot remember who it was, but a football player a few years back got into trouble for playing basketball during the preseason and got hurt.

 

[Ares Black]

Does anyone know how a UFC contract is actually structured?

I've seen UFC fighter's compete in BJJ and Sambo tournaments while still under contract, but it doesn't seem like they can compete in bare knuckle or boxing.

I'm sure it depends on the actual fighter. There's a big difference between a Mcgregor and a Buckley.

Is it written in that certain combat sports are allowed while other's are not?

Grappling is much safer and doesn't interfere with their UFC career. You won't see any fighters under contract competing in any striking.

 

[KillerIsBack V2]

That would be ruled unenforceable.
Source: 15 years in the real estate industry. People have tried this very thing, believe me!

Weird, is that a US thing or specific state thing? In my country that would be possible.

Either way, the UFC obviously does it in their contracts. And there are many examples.

I know building contractors that were fired half-way through the first cement pour of a house, cause they defined contract.

One thing for sure, UFC does have enforced stuff like that before and have punished fighters for it.

Even back in the old days, remmember when Penn signed with K1 just to have more challenges? UFC stripped him right away and Dana expressed his anger publicly.

 

[Only Here for Attachments]

Weird, is that a US thing or specific state thing? In my country that would be possible.

It can depend on the profession and nature of the contracted business. Fighters would probably have a harder time working for multiple companies compared to someone delivering for UberEats, for example. UFC does have an argument that working for other promotions jeopardizes the fighter's ability to fulfill their contract, but independent contractors are still supposed to have the right to work for multiple parties.

 

[EndlessCritic]

Yes, they aren't allowed to do sports where they're going to take large amounts of damage

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[Hellowhosthat]

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Well obviously you can get injured but you can also get injured in training, it's a bit different from BKB