UFC 286: Edwards vs. Usman 3

Bakayoko said:
I guess he should.The Israeli guy just pressures and throws wild hooks and now and then some high kick.He was getting beat in that first clip and he was getting outgrappled in the first two rounds by that Rizco guy who made some stupid mistakes.He is pretty hitable,can be taken down and has faced sub competition.That being said he's extremely gritty,seems really durable,reverses positions in grappling,has some trips of his own,some ground and pound...Like a bad gritty all rounder.Sam can be hit and can be taken down.I'm not superconfident.If it was in US and if Sam was a flake maybe I would hit the dog.But Sam himself has shown he can come back from adversity,the fight in London which is a plus for him,the reach advantage,the experience...It's really Sam's fight to lose,I have taken him as a parlay piece and Will probably play his sub line,just don't rate him as high as some other plays due to Ashmoz durability and unknowns about him facing a step up in competition
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tbh I think Ashmoz is actually a step down in competition for Sam.
 
Captain Chesapeake said:
Anybody have a guess as to what round future champion Veronica Hardy gets finished in?
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Her BJJ is decent enough to survive imo and her striking isn't terrible either compared to Miller. That being said I think Miller wins 30-27 decision.
 
Danis_champ said:
Her BJJ is decent enough to survive imo and her striking isn't terrible either compared to Miller. That being said I think Miller wins 30-27 decision.
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Maybe. Miller has something that most chicks in WMMA don't: good gnp and an absolute nasty streak where she legit wants to smash girls faces in. She's a bitch, and I mean that in a good way here. She's not fucking around in there. Seems kinda trivial maybe, but not in WMMA. She also has the top control and grappling to allow her to keep someone of Veronica's level down in order to be able to smash her.

I think a later stoppage (late rd 2/into rd 3) is likely. I think that Brogan chick that Miller smashed on the TUF finale is probably **about** at Veronica's level? And Miller just ran through her.
 
mkess101 said:
Maybe. Miller has something that most chicks in WMMA don't: good gnp and an absolute nasty streak where she legit wants to smash girls faces in. She's a bitch, and I mean that in a good way here. She's not fucking around in there. Seems kinda trivial maybe, but not in WMMA. She also has the top control and grappling to allow her to keep someone of Veronica's level down in order to be able to smash her.

I think a later stoppage (late rd 2/into rd 3) is likely. I think that Brogan chick that Miller smashed on the TUF finale is probably **about** at Veronica's level? And Miller just ran through her.
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I’ve already played some Miller itd. I think it could end in any round honestly. Macedo hasn’t fought in years and I don’t see her wanting to sustain 3 rds of punishment.
 
Captain Chesapeake said:
I’ve already played some Miller itd. I think it could end in any round honestly. Macedo hasn’t fought in years and I don’t see her wanting to sustain 3 rds of punishment.
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Agree. I'm playing a LOT of Miller over 95.5 points on prizepicks. Whether she finishes early, finishes late with a lot of TD's/strikes/sub attempts, or even a decision where she utterly dominates...she should cover this number. A decision win makes it iffy I guess, but yeah I don't see Veronica lasting in there with this girl.
 
mkess101 said:
Agree. I'm playing a LOT of Miller over 95.5 points on prizepicks. Whether she finishes early, finishes late with a lot of TD's/strikes/sub attempts, or even a decision where she utterly dominates...she should cover this number. A decision win makes it iffy I guess, but yeah I don't see Veronica lasting in there with this girl.
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i have exposure to her u3.5 takedowns but heavier on over fantasy like you, unless macedo has made some dramatic improvements in these past few years (i doubt it with her cte symptoms situation), i think she finishes macedo at a pretty high clip.
 
Kamais_Ookin said:
i have exposure to her u3.5 takedowns but heavier on over fantasy like you, unless macedo has made some dramatic improvements in these past few years (i doubt it with her cte symptoms situation), i think she finishes macedo at a pretty high clip.
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If making improvements includes smoking weed with dan and taping fights for their podcast then she is future champ
 
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guesswhoseback said:
Herbert/Klein-OV 2.5+135 I dont know the odds for Over 1.5 but if thats below -200 ill bet that
Todorich/Duncan-UN No Odds Id assume 1.5 -130
Santos/Murphy-OV 2.5-150
Patterson/Ashmoz-UN 2.5-150
Duncan+100
Doldize+230
Barabena+325
Gathje/Fiziev-UN 2.5-150
Edwards/Usman-OV 4.5-185

This is what ill prob bet if any odds go to -200 or above I wont bet
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just my opinion ….. no way Herbert goes over 2.5 - the guy is a glass cannon - he either scores a knockout or gets knocked out

and Murphy and santos are both undefeated finishers …. I don’t think I’d pick over there either

barberena doesn’t have power so it’s doubtful he’ll knockout gunner …. Which means eventually gunner will get him down and dominate - barberena gets taken down by everyone who tries

just my opinion ^ …… Goodluck though …. Hope we all hit our bets
 
Jinx_AA said:
just my opinion ….. no way Herbert goes over 2.5 - the guy is a glass cannon - he either scores a knockout or gets knocked out

and Murphy and santos are both undefeated finishers …. I don’t think I’d pick over there either

barberena doesn’t have power so it’s doubtful he’ll knockout gunner …. Which means eventually gunner will get him down and dominate - barberena gets taken down by everyone who tries

just my opinion ^ …… Goodluck though …. Hope we all hit our bets
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Herbert was tentative and reserved against Nelson after that hard Topuria KO.I remember cause I lost money on the under on that fight.Not saying this fight will go over,just an observation
 
Fiziev has looked great in every fight I've seen of him. One question I have with this fight though is whether the pressure from Gaethje might negate Fiziev's kicks?

Gaethje is used to getting in close and throwing hands and heavy leg kicks, whereas Fiziev from what I remember tends to let most of his kicks go when he's controlling the space.

If Justin were to give Fiziev the time and space to pick his shots I'd be concerned and we have at times of late seen a more patient and measured Justin. If he atttempts to heavily pressure Fiziev though - something he is very adept at doing - I do fear that it would limit one of Fizievs main weapons in his kicks.
 
sonhow said:
Based on mmath Vettori is much better striker. But Dolidze to me is the weirdest fighter ever. Seems like he stand on his hands in there for four minutes and then just rise and KO his opponent. His momentum just doesnt let him lose fights. Hermanson was easily beating him on the feet then manages to take him to his comfort zone with a takedown... Then immediately dies anyway after Roman absolutely forces some kind of banana split to back mount leg hook combination. I dont know. It feels like Vettori wouldnt fall to shit like that but I cant read Roman at all.
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His destruction of Phil Hawes had me as a fan. I don't think Marvin could finish Phil in that way. Agree with everything you said though.


Marvin is obviously better than Phil yes i know.
 
SolarSeiko said:
His destruction of Phil Hawes had me as a fan. I don't think Marvin could finish Phil in that way. Agree with everything you said though.


Marvin is obviously better than Phil yes i know.
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Finishing Phil Hawes is like getting a toy in your Happy Meal...
 
Anyone who is considering a bet on Usman ML, I would highly consider playing the o4.5/GTD instead. Not only do they pay better, but I think they're the better plays. Usman's most likely PTV is by decision, and they also cover an Edwards DEC which is possible especially in London. If you do the o4.5 it also covers the possibility of a late R5 stoppage like their last fight
 
Bakayoko said:
Man I was waiting for Vettori r3 or dec to unload and then they set it at 1,65,oh man the bookies really are getting sharper
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The play was Vettori Dec & Vettori R3Sub. It was +2800. I don't know what it is now though.
 
Omni1 said:
The play was Vettori Dec & Vettori R3Sub. It was +2800. I don't know what it is now though.
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Probably.The play was also Makachev by sub or decision against Bobby Green smartass.
 
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