UFC 229: McGregor vs Khabib

[Wiktoruspro]

Evinger has been trash literally every time she stepped up to UFC level grapplers. Subbed by Raquel Pennington. Subbed twice by Alexis Davis. Wrestlefucked by Sarah McMann.

Now she's 37, past her prime, and facing a very talented + improving Ladd who will likely outclass her grappling as much as those other girls did. And in spite of the reach disadvantage, Ladd is probably the better striker too.

Evinger after this loses you mentioned had a nice win streak until the cyborg fight.
Is Ladd really so legit on the ground ?

 

[lifeisgood12345]

Look at the names you listed though. Alexis Davis was one the best bantamweights in the world and certainly one of the best grapplers. McMann, one of the best in the world and possibly the best wrestler. The only questionable loss is being subbed by Raquel Pennington and I will watch that fight. All of these losses were over four years ago.

Evinger after this loses you mentioned had a nice win streak until the cyborg fight.
Is Ladd really so legit on the ground ?

Edit: I will add that I have not seen anything from Ladd that would put her on the same level as the people mentioned above.

Ladd solidly beat Sijara Eubanks at both striking and grappling when she was only 21. Eubanks is in the same tier of fighter as Evinger and possibly better.

Everybody else Ladd has finished. Only time she ever struggled was in the clinch vs Lina Lansberg, who is a clinch specialist. That was a year ago, at her age she may have improved quite a bit in that time.

None of those girls I mentioned are anything special. They were some of the better woman fighters when no women were fighting, and Evinger was a tier below them. IMO Ladd is in the same tier and it's only a matter of time before she surpasses them, if she has not already.

What has Evinger done to inspire you since those losses? Grapplefucking Aldana who has no grappling game? Subbing Yana who we have no idea if she is good or not (my money is on not). Also can't completely ignore that her no contest vs Yana was a bad performance. She is 37 years old, there's a limit to how much better she can be than ages 29-32 and she is more likely worse.

 

[Hater Hater]

Also Triple Threat coming off a bad knee injury iirc.

The knee injury is concern

Ladd solidly beat Sijara Eubanks at both striking and grappling when she was only 21. Eubanks is in the same tier of fighter as Evinger and possibly better.

Everybody else Ladd has finished. Only time she ever struggled was in the clinch vs Lina Lansberg, who is a clinch specialist. That was a year ago, at her age she may have improved quite a bit in that time.

None of those girls I mentioned are anything special. They were some of the better woman fighters when no women were fighting, and Evinger was a tier below them. IMO Ladd is in the same tier and it's only a matter of time before she surpasses them, if she has not already.

What has Evinger done to inspire you since those losses? Grapplefucking Aldana who has no grappling game? Subbing Yana who we have no idea if she is good or not (my money is on not). Also can't completely ignore that her no contest vs Yana was a bad performance. She is 37 years old, there's a limit to how much better she can be than ages 29-32 and she is more likely worse.

Mainly Evingers well rounded game and her fight IQ (the past 5 years anyway). She is also tough as nails, very tenacious, has good endurance, and will have a 4 inch reach advantage. Oh, and she lasted over 10 minutes with cyborg on short notice. Even took here down and landed punches. I would not want to see Aspen in there with Cyborg. She is too cute and would be mauled in under 5.

 

[ill800]

People can talk about Mcgregor/khabib all they want. If you do t like it you don’t have to read it

Great style clash. Two of the most elite fighters in their respected form of combat.

Some people are viewing at as 50/50 but the odds don’t reflect that. So there’s value there. Personally it’s a fight I wouldn’t go big on. I’m actually quite heavy on kunitskaya.

This is a marquee match up and deserves the attention.

If you want to talk about something else then, just , do it.

 

[lifeisgood12345]

The knee injury is concern


Mainly Evingers well rounded game and her fight IQ (the past 5 years anyway). She is also tough as nails, very tenacious, has good endurance, and will have a 4 inch reach advantage. Oh, and she lasted over 10 minutes with cyborg on short notice. Even took here down and landed punches. I would not want to see Aspen in there with Cyborg. She is too cute and would be mauled in under 5.

They aren't competing to survive vs Cyborg. They are fighting each other. Evinger mounted no semblence of offense in that fight so I don't see much to get excited about.

 

[Naught2Sixty]

Tiny on Showtime sub and KH sub at +1175 and +1050. Showtime could club and sub Tony although very unlikely. 1175 is a nice number though. Herrig is strong but not suuuuper heavy on top and KH is pretty good off her back. She was threatening Thug Rose with an arm bar even after being rocked badly by a head kick. Tiny tiny stabs though.

 

[Hater Hater]

They aren't competing to survive vs Cyborg. They are fighting each other. Evinger mounted no semblence of offense in that fight so I don't see much to get excited about.

That wasn't my main point but she did look relatively good in comparison to others against Cyborg. I am basing my judgements on what I see on tape and not on the records.

So let me ask you, are you basing your opinion of this fight on Evinger losses that happened over 7 years ago?

 

[Wiktoruspro]

People can talk about Mcgregor/khabib all they want. If you do t like it you don’t have to read it

Great style clash. Two of the most elite fighters in their respected form of combat.

Some people are viewing at as 50/50 but the odds don’t reflect that. So there’s value there. Personally it’s a fight I wouldn’t go big on. I’m actually quite heavy on kunitskaya.

This is a marquee match up and deserves the attention.

If you want to talk about something else then, just , do it.

Only value bets I see and I can give you guys are :
KHABIB ITD
CONOR STRAIGHT
CONOR IN R1 OR R2
KHABIB DEC

Thats all, there will be no other outcomes and there is no fuckin need to talk more about this fight. Waste of Energy, feel to pick something from the bets I posted because there will be nothing more in the final outcome.

 

[Sadistics]

Ladd solidly beat Sijara Eubanks at both striking and grappling when she was only 21. Eubanks is in the same tier of fighter as Evinger and possibly better.

Eubanks is no where near the wrestler Evinger is, and she's a flyweight

 

[Sadistics]

Only value bets I see and I can give you guys are :
KHABIB ITD
CONOR STRAIGHT
CONOR IN R1 OR R2
KHABIB DEC

Thats all, there will be no other outcomes and there is no fuckin need to talk more about this fight. Waste of Energy, feel to pick something from the bets I posted because there will be nothing more in the final outcome.

You do realize that those cover literally every outcome aside from a draw?

 

[Wiktoruspro]

You do realize that those cover literally every outcome aside from a draw?

This are the real outcomes.
Some fantasy outcomes are below
Conor sub
Conor Dec
Conor in r3 or r4
Conor in r5

 

[Stunna77]

no clue. after reading that reddit post I'm positive dimes was the one who stole my info though.

currently looking to switch to Bovada, Betonline, or Bookmaker. Looking for props and live betting. any suggestions from anyone?

I used to use Bovada, shit props, lines come late after Dimes openers get juiced up, props are super late and they will not cancel bets even if fights are no longer happening. For example I still have $250 on Whittaker vs Bisping that will sit until the end of the year lol. I like Betonline as htey sometimes have ridiculous openers and there limits are $250 on them opposed to Dimes $100. They also don't jump 100 pts for every max bet. Downfall is the only props they offer are O/U. Will be looking into Bookmaker shortly as my unit size keeps increasing.

 

[Danis_champ]

Tiny on Showtime sub and KH sub at +1175 and +1050. Showtime could club and sub Tony although very unlikely. 1175 is a nice number though. Herrig is strong but not suuuuper heavy on top and KH is pretty good off her back. She was threatening Thug Rose with an arm bar even after being rocked badly by a head kick. Tiny tiny stabs though.

Da fuck is KH? I understand if you use DC, GSP or other well known nicknames but I have to literally go through google to understand who the fuck is KH. Maybe stop using them? take that 0,5 seconds to type fighters first or second name.

 

[Wiktoruspro]

Da fuck is KH? I understand if you use DC, GSP or other well known nicknames but I have to literally go through google to understand who the fuck is KH. Maybe stop using them? take that 0,5 seconds to type fighters first or second name.

 

[Danis_champ]

Yikes as my brain working so fast that I know low level fighters nicknames right? Tito Ortiz is not Tito anymore but TH triple B. Right? Let's make it as complicated as we can

 

[zeckdo]

I used to use Bovada, shit props, lines come late after Dimes openers get juiced up, props are super late and they will not cancel bets even if fights are no longer happening. For example I still have $250 on Whittaker vs Bisping that will sit until the end of the year lol. I like Betonline as htey sometimes have ridiculous openers and there limits are $250 on them opposed to Dimes $100. They also don't jump 100 pts for every max bet. Downfall is the only props they offer are O/U. Will be looking into Bookmaker shortly as my unit size keeps increasing.

JimGunn said BM doesn't do live lines anymore, that's a turn off.

edit: @JimGunn because I know nothing about bitcoin, I'm considering using Money order for 5dimes, does that sound reliable?

 

[Wiktoruspro]

Yikes as my brain working so fast that I know low level fighters nicknames right? Tito Ortiz is not Tito anymore but TH triple B. Right? Let's make it as complicated as we can

Michele KARATE HOTTIE (flap flap) Waterson

 

[Sadistics]

I used to use Bovada, shit props, lines come late after Dimes openers get juiced up, props are super late and they will not cancel bets even if fights are no longer happening. For example I still have $250 on Whittaker vs Bisping that will sit until the end of the year lol. I like Betonline as htey sometimes have ridiculous openers and there limits are $250 on them opposed to Dimes $100. They also don't jump 100 pts for every max bet. Downfall is the only props they offer are O/U. Will be looking into Bookmaker shortly as my unit size keeps increasing.

They actually do offer props, they're not under the MMA section but under game props when choosing a sport. They are late to release them though and don't do it for every card.

 

[Naught2Sixty]

Da fuck is KH? I understand if you use DC, GSP or other well known nicknames but I have to literally go through google to understand who the fuck is KH. Maybe stop using them? take that 0,5 seconds to type fighters first or second name.

Karate Hottie bro. You couldn't figure that out from me mentioning Herrigs name as well? Also, no need to make demands. If you're curious about how I word something all you need to do is ask. You come at me again and I'm buying a ticket to Poland or wherever the fuck you're from. I'm kidding of course. I just don't like rudeness.

 

[null]

JimGunn said BM doesn't do live lines anymore, that's a turn off.

BM has among the largest limits available for moneylines, over/unders & props and is well worth using even with no live betting.