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UFC 229: McGregor vs Khabib

Wiktoruspro said:
Omg and here it starts again... its simple as fucking. 50/50 my God guys lets focus on other fights
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Yeah fucking stop the Conor/Khabib talk it's been done endlessly and there is no right/wrong answer. Don't think anybody here with a brain needs help betting on this because this fight this is so mainstream. At this point I have read too much about that fight so I just skip all those posts the whole Sherdog is full of this fight. Rather discuss the chances of Herb ruining this fight. Better focus on other fights.
Haven't heard much about Jussier vs Pettis fight
Waterson vs Herrig is interesting too
 
Finished Herrig/Waterson yesterday and went 1.5u on Herrig -119. Waterson probably needs takedowns here and they will be much harder to come by than the Casey fight (which Casey won IMO). Herrig will be at a speed disadvantage and has pretty basic boxing, but it is effective and Waterson has nothing to keep her from walking her down and landing the harder shots. Herrig will also have a big strength advantage should grappling come into play.
 
Danis_champ said:
Yeah fucking stop the Conor/Khabib talk it's been done endlessly and there is no right/wrong answer. Don't think anybody here with a brain needs help betting on this because this fight this is so mainstream. At this point I have read too much about that fight so I just skip all those posts the whole Sherdog is full of this fight. Rather discuss the chances of Herb ruining this fight. Better focus on other fights.
Haven't heard much about Jussier vs Pettis fight
Waterson vs Herrig is interesting too
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Yeah man, they will look in next posts at the size of their shoes lol

TO END THIS FINALY, ITS FOOKIN 50/50
KHABIB TIME / CONORS LEFT HAND



THATS IT

Answering your question Danis Im on Sergio, he showed improved tdd against Benavidez and I think he can win a decision here keeping the fight in stand up and striking his way to the scorecards. Sergio has better stand up, Jussier has better ground game but if Sergio can defend takedowns than Formiga is fucked.

Felice will be bigger and she doesnt have fight IQ of a brick like Cortney, she is well rounded and that should give her a dec win here.
 
I know nobody wants to bet on Nik Lentz, but losing to 39 year old Maynard would be by far the worst defeat of his career. Maynard seemed washed up 4 years ago after getting KO'd 3x in a row, now he's just hanging around bc the UFC has been lobbing him extremely soft matchups that he can go the distance against.

Lentz is a tougher opponent than any of Maynard's past 4, and Maynard won't be able to grapplefuck him like he did to Ishihara. And that fight was 15 months ago, Maynard could have aged quite a bit in that time.

In the past few years Lentz has beat Will Brooks + Danny Castillo and hung tough vs David Teymur + Do Bronx. How in the world does Maynard give him issues?
 
Lightbringer said:
Al is a tougher matchup for khabib than Conor. Khabibs takedowns started failing because Al can actually wrestle. When khabib starts switching from single to double, to pressuring Conor vs the cage (where Nate had Conor multiple times), the takedowns will be too easy for khabib and khabib is so much bigger than Conor. Conor will not have enough in his defensive wrestling arsenal to stop tds, his skill just isn't there. This fight will be an absolute mismatch and Conor will not win a round. Mark my words. Conor also has no get up game. Conor's only chance is for khabib to inexplicably not go for tds which won't happen because the tds will come too easy.
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Khabibs grappling is obviously much better than Conor’s (though Conor’s is underrated). However, I would advise against using either the Nate or Mendes fights as evidence of Khabib’s success as they are all very different fighters with different ways of getting people. Nate is just a machine, a living zombie that just keeps coming. He got Conor down after 5 gruelling rounds and only got him against the cage after turning the tide standing. He is also a long and proven striker. Mendes is one of the most explosive fighters in any division with possibly the blast double in the UFC (GSP, Woodley would disagree). He also has very good boxing and mixes both well. Neither of these fighters attributes line up well Khabib. The only attribute he has in common is pressure with Nate.

All in all, it’s quite possible that Conor is able to keep Khabib at range with a combination of footwork and stinging shots from the outside long enough to hurt Khabib. That is no guarantee either of course.
 
lifeisgood12345 said:
I know nobody wants to bet on Nik Lentz, but losing to 39 year old Maynard would be by far the worst defeat of his career. Maynard seemed washed up 4 years ago after getting KO'd 3x in a row, now he's just hanging around bc the UFC has been lobbing him extremely soft matchups that he can go the distance against.

Lentz is a tougher opponent than any of Maynard's past 4, and Maynard won't be able to grapplefuck him like he did to Ishihara. And that fight was 15 months ago, Maynard could have aged quite a bit in that time.

In the past few years Lentz has beat Will Brooks + Danny Castillo and hung tough vs David Teymur + Do Bronx. How in the world does Maynard give him issues?
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He's still a 3x Div1 All American facing a guy that defends TDs with guillotine attempts.
 
Wiktoruspro said:
Felice will be bigger and she doesnt have fight IQ of a brick like Cortney, she is well rounded and that should give her a dec win here.
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I'm on Formiga especially at those odds. Benavidez took him down in r1 and Benavidez is a shell of himself. There wasn't much cap in striking also (r2) I think Formiga is much better standing up than Joe. Formiga's striking looked really good last time too and I scored the Borg fight for him. I think he can take Sergio's back.
 
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Hater Hater said:
All in all, it’s quite possible that Conor is able to keep Khabib at range with a combination of footwork and stinging shots from the outside long enough to hurt Khabib. That is no guarantee either of course.
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MMA smartass of the year please educate us more. Had no idea Conor should stay outside.. just fucking stop like monkeys repeating same stuff over and over again. Btw you forgot to mention that Conor's left hand is dangerous.

I have to start ignoring some people here.
 
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what method do you use to add funds then?

Stunna77 said:
What kind of scams? I have quite a bit of $$ sitting on there in fear of getting limited if I withdraw.
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Wiktoruspro said:
Im on Sergio, he showed improved tdd against Benavidez

Did he really, or is Joe B maybe on a decline? Plus Joe B's offensive grappling isnt THAT great. It's his defensive grappling that stands out imo. I'll give Sergio a pass against Cejudo seeing how Henry just wrestle fucked his way to a world championship.

I think he can win a decision here keeping the fight in stand up and striking his way to the scorecards. Sergio has better stand up, Jussier has better ground game but if Sergio can defend takedowns than Formiga is fucked.

Duh. Sergio has some of the best footwork at FLW which will be a huge advantage here but his defensive jitz isnt that great reading from the Moreno fight. Hard to make drastic improvements from that in a short amount of time. Formigas striking is a bit underrated too imo. I learned that lesson from the Ben10 fight. Although his shot selection is very meat and potatoes, he makes good reads and has the best back take in the lower weight classes imo.
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Some responses in the quote. I'm taking my chances on Formiga at +120.
 
I have toyed with the idea of stabbing at Formiga.

Even though Pettis takedown D has improved, Benavidez never used his offensive wrestling that effectively and he is 34 coming off an injury-- he is well past his prime.

Let's not forget that Brandon Moreno took Sergio's back just last year, and Moreno is several tiers below Formiga as a grappler.

Feels like this is a close decision fairly often, and Formiga is more likely to finish than Pettis. That's a good recipe for an upset.
 
Best bet of the card so far for me is Evinger/Ladd. Evinger should be the favourite in that fight by a good margin. She will have a good reach advantage and will likely be the better wrestler. More than anything, if Evinger has any advantage in the fight at all, she actively try to find it and expose it. Her fight IQ is as good as you will see in the women’s MMA.

Aspen is a good prospect. Her strikes are sound for women’s MMA but her defence and footwork are lacking. I don’t think she will do well standing with rangey Evinger, who actually uses her length very well and is good at maintaining it. Aspen’s has good grappling and that is likely her best chance is a submission as Evinger is a little complacent at times. That said, I also expect Evinger to have better wrestling overall and is also a submission threat.

Anyway, I can’t believe Ladd is the favourite and I will be putting down a 2u + bet on Evinger.
 
Hater Hater said:
Best bet of the card so far for me is Evinger/Ladd. Evinger should be the favourite in that fight by a good margin. She will have a good reach advantage and will likely be the better wrestler. More than anything, if Evinger has any advantage in the fight at all, she actively try to find it and expose it. Her fight IQ is as good as you will see in the women’s MMA.

Aspen is a good prospect. Her strikes are sound for women’s MMA but her defence and footwork are lacking. I don’t think she will do well standing with rangey Evinger, who actually uses her length very well and is good at maintaining it. Aspen’s has good grappling and that is likely her best chance is a submission as Evinger is a little complacent at times. That said, I also expect Evinger to have better wrestling overall and is also a submission threat.

Anyway, I can’t believe Ladd is the favourite and I will be putting down a 2u + bet on Evinger.
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Evinger has been trash literally every time she stepped up to UFC level grapplers. Subbed by Raquel Pennington. Subbed twice by Alexis Davis. Wrestlefucked by Sarah McMann.

Now she's 37, past her prime, and facing a very talented + improving Ladd who will likely outclass her grappling as much as those other girls did. And in spite of the reach disadvantage, Ladd is probably the better striker too.
 
Stunna77 said:
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no clue. after reading that reddit post I'm positive dimes was the one who stole my info though.

currently looking to switch to Bovada, Betonline, or Bookmaker. Looking for props and live betting. any suggestions from anyone?
 
lifeisgood12345 said:
Evinger has been trash literally every time she stepped up to UFC level grapplers. Subbed by Raquel Pennington. Subbed twice by Alexis Davis. Wrestlefucked by Sarah McMann.

Now she's 37, past her prime, and facing a very talented + improving Ladd who will likely outclass her grappling as much as those other girls did. And in spite of the reach disadvantage, Ladd is probably the better striker too.
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Look at the names you listed though. Alexis Davis was one the best bantamweights in the world and certainly one of the best grapplers. McMann, one of the best in the world and possibly the best wrestler. The only questionable loss is being subbed by Raquel Pennington and I will watch that fight. All of these losses were over four years ago.

Edit: I will add that I have not seen anything from Ladd that would put her on the same level as the people mentioned above.
 
lifeisgood12345 said:
Evinger has been trash literally every time she stepped up to UFC level grapplers. Subbed by Raquel Pennington. Subbed twice by Alexis Davis. Wrestlefucked by Sarah McMann.

Now she's 37, past her prime, and facing a very talented + improving Ladd who will likely outclass her grappling as much as those other girls did. And in spite of the reach disadvantage, Ladd is probably the better striker too.
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Also Triple Threat coming off a bad knee injury iirc.
 
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