UFC 228 - Till V Woodley

I can’t resist Tyron at +120.
 
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2/1 on Diego Sanchez against.. a grappler?

Seriously?

I mean fuck it, I do like money
 
DarkneT said:
2/1 on Diego Sanchez against.. a grappler?

Seriously?

I mean fuck it, I do like money
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Not even that good of a grappler considering half his losses come from subs on the regional circuit
 
rev0lver said:
Not even that good of a grappler considering half his losses come from subs on the regional circuit
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Maybe he brawls with Diego I guess...
I mean Diegos hands never really scare me that much
I almost hope this one looks like the Held fight
 
Ugh, want to go big on Woodley but not sure if I have the balls to do it. Although I like Till im not sure about his TDD, but his pressure style could be bad for uncle Tyron. Any value on Price? or what are your '' go big '' bets?
 
rev0lver said:
Not even that good of a grappler considering half his losses come from subs on the regional circuit
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Yup and still working at his day job which means he is probably on the same level as before. See what happened to Max Griffin when he quit his job. It's a huge difference if you can train 12 times per week or 6 times per week.
 
So many of you are so clueless about the kind of fighter Tyron Woodley is

Tyron Woodley has only secured 5 takedowns in his entire UFC career and you think he's going to out wrestle Till for 5 rounds lol

He fights in such a conservative manor because he's terrified of gassing out, thats also why he rarely uses his wrestling offensively. His cardio is so suspect and anyone that pushes a pace on him is going to give him big problems. Till isn't going to fight like Wonderboy or Maia, he's going to push a pace that Woodley can't handle.

I suggest you Woodley backers watch Inisde the Octagon, Dan Hardy breaks it down very well.
 
Dianabol said:
So many of you are so clueless about the kind of fighter Tyron Woodley is

Tyron Woodley has only secured 5 takedowns in his entire UFC career and you think he's going to out wrestle Till for 5 rounds lol

He fights in such a conservative manor because he's terrified of gassing out, thats also why he rarely uses his wrestling offensively. His cardio is so suspect and anyone that pushes a pace on him is going to give him big problems. Till isn't going to fight like Wonderboy or Maia, he's going to push a pace that Woodley can't handle.

I suggest you Woodley backers watch Inisde the Octagon, Dan Hardy breaks it down very well.
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Yes but look who is Woodley fighting. It's the first time in his UFC career when he has to face trash british wrestling. I'm not saying he will wrestle for 5 rounds but he is gonna secure TD's to win rounds. He took WB down. And WB is probably much better wrestler than Till. Training with Weidman. Till has no training partners. And he never faced a guy who even had a intention of taking him down. Woodley can wrestle if he needs to. He has oustruck everybody so far except Rory who's wrestling is very good.
 
Just hit Till/Woodley starts round 4 at the improved price of -135 to win $100.
 
Zabit/Davis O1.5 just opened -105, fantastic line IMO
 
Danis_champ said:
Yes but look who is Woodley fighting. It's the first time in his UFC career when he has to face trash british wrestling. I'm not saying he will wrestle for 5 rounds but he is gonna secure TD's to win rounds. He took WB down. And WB is probably much better wrestler than Till. Training with Weidman. Till has no training partners. And he never faced a guy who even had a intention of taking him down. Woodley can wrestle if he needs to. He has oustruck everybody so far except Rory who's wrestling is very good.
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Your assumption about Till's wrestling is just an assumption, you say he has "trash British wrestling" but there is really no evidence to back that up. He's stuffed all takedown attempts in recent fight very easily. Fight metric gave Cerrone a TD but Till got back up immediately, hardly a TD.

Literally no one has taken and held Till down. Excluding his fight with Dalby where Till badly injured his shoulder, a fight Till was dominating before the injury.

If the fight with Woodley goes 5 rounds I do expect Woodley to get at least one TD but he's not going to be shooting every round, its not what he does. And there is no guarantee he can hold Till down either. Woodley's best shot is a early KO, if he doesn't get it he will lose. He won't be able to handle the pace and striking of Till, Woodley's last few fights have been staring contests.
 
Danis_champ said:
Yes but look who is Woodley fighting. It's the first time in his UFC career when he has to face trash british wrestling. I'm not saying he will wrestle for 5 rounds but he is gonna secure TD's to win rounds. He took WB down. And WB is probably much better wrestler than Till. Training with Weidman. Till has no training partners. And he never faced a guy who even had a intention of taking him down. Woodley can wrestle if he needs to. He has oustruck everybody so far except Rory who's wrestling is very good.
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If he can secure a takedown in rnd 1 and hold Till down and cause actual damage like in wonderboy 1, I think he could nullify some of Tills power and cardio/confidence. Based on his interviews I think he might actually look for a takedown in the first 2 or 3 rounds. In Tills last 2 fights against strikers they both were able to shoot under the left hand and get him down but no control whats so ever.
The real question I am asking myself is if Woodley can control him on the ground when their both fresh.
 
Dianabol said:
Your assumption about Till's wrestling is just an assumption, you say he has "trash British wrestling" but there is really no evidence to back that up. He's stuffed all takedown attempts in recent fight very easily. Fight metric gave Cerrone a TD but Till got back up immediately, hardly a TD.

Literally no one has taken and held Till down. Excluding his fight with Dalby where Till badly injured his shoulder, a fight Till was dominating before the injury.

If the fight with Woodley goes 5 rounds I do expect Woodley to get at least one TD but he's not going to be shooting every round, its not what he does. And there is no guarantee he can hold Till down either. Woodley's best shot is a early KO, if he doesn't get it he will lose. He won't be able to handle the pace and striking of Till, Woodley's last few fights have been staring contests.
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Are we really comparing Woodley's and past his prime Cerrone's wrestling ability? Till got back up but he was still kinda taken down. Woodley would finish and hold him down.

Literally no one has taken and held Till down because he has faced only striking based fighters. There you go. WB took him down. Not a good sign
 
Danis_champ said:
Are we really comparing Woodley's and past his prime Cerrone's wrestling ability? Till got back up but he was still kinda taken down. Woodley would finish and hold him down.

Literally no one has taken and held Till down because he has faced only striking based fighters. There you go. WB took him down. Not a good sign
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No I'm not comparing it at all, just stating facts.

Not trying to put you down but I see a lot of your comments and I don't think you have a very good understanding of the fight game. A lot of what you are saying is just baseless assumptions and wishful thinking. Back up what you say with facts.

And fight metric never gave WB a TD, he didn't secure it. They shouldn't have given Cerrone a TD either
 
Dianabol said:
No I'm not comparing it at all, just stating facts.

Not trying to put you down but I see a lot of your comments and I don't think you have a very good understanding of the fight game. A lot of what you are saying is just baseless assumptions and wishful thinking. Back up what you say with facts.

And fight metric never gave WB a TD, he didn't secure it. They shouldn't have given Cerrone a TD either
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So you got Till and Neal

I'v got Woodley and Camacho. Let's wait and see. I want to see you go on your knees and apologize when I go 2:0 against you
 
Roads55 said:
I think there's a good chance he will be better than evens at some point. till already down from 2.4ish opener. fight still a while out and till's line slowly shortening. his fanbase and the additional UK money should be favorable for ppl wanting to bet woodley.
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Good call!
 
raketmannen said:
Killed that line on Pinnacle, my biggest bet this card now
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Haha, maxed it twice there myself too.

Whoever said Till has "trash British wrestling", the majority of his training took place in Brazil.
 
Danis_champ said:
So you got Till and Neal

I'v got Woodley and Camacho. Let's wait and see. I want to see you go on your knees and apologize when I go 2:0 against you
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I'm not betting Neil but I think he'll win

I'm betting Till, Sterling, Rivera, Price
 
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