UFC 217 - Bisping vs GSP - NYC

[Sham5916910]

@Sham5916910 @Joseph Budden dont start this shit again
btw Sham what are your picks for this event ?

i can't reveal until budden has accepted my challenge so we can thrash out man to man who we are on the opposite side to. After last weeks arse kicking he seems to be ducking me tho. Budden, beat me this week and entry to the private chat is yours.

 

[Joseph Budden]

i can't reveal until budden has accepted my challenge so we can thrash out man to man who we are on the opposite side to. After last weeks arse kicking he seems to be ducking me tho. Budden, beat me this week and entry to the private chat is yours.

Can you just paypal me money? That chat is one of the most pathetic circle jerks ever, my #insiderinfo came as a result of me and my mole laughing at how pathetic you and some others (mainly Johnb) are.

 

[SBJJ]

What I hope happens between Brown Gall is that Gall smokes him so we get a better price on fading Gall when he makes the step up

 

[Sham5916910]

Can you just paypal me money? That chat is one of the most pathetic circle jerks ever, my #insiderinfo came as a result of me and my mole laughing at how pathetic you and some others (mainly Johnb) are.

Wow never seen someone duck so much since the Iraq war.

 

[Joseph Budden]

Wow never seen someone duck so much since the Iraq war.

Dude like I dont even know what you are asking. You have been grasping at straws for awhile now lol you went from lies to comments about mental health (still lol @ that) to now some make shift challenge? Like what is going on here lol you need to take a breather and realize im not your problem, you are your own problem

 

[Oblivian]

What I hope happens between Brown Gall is that Gall smokes him so we get a better price on fading Gall when he makes the step up

Yep, there are a shitload of guys in the division that I see giving him a lot of trouble.

 

[Oblivian]

Thanks bro. I'll go watch the Gordon Ryan grappling match since that's one piece of tape I haven't yet seen. Cheers.

Again, don't let me persuade you to not play Brown. I'm really not trying to do that. I'm normally pretty open to when I feel strongly that people are paying way too much on a particular play. This isn't one of them - I understand the Brown backers' reasoning here.

 

[LEMONZEST]

What I hope happens between Brown Gall is that Gall smokes him so we get a better price on fading Gall when he makes the step up

My 2c. is that its the right time to fade Gall. Kid is just so unproven and Brown is athletic with good standup game. I think Brown can keep it standing and piece up Gall.

 

[SBJJ]

Duffy -170 in vegas

 

[betrayedlurker]

Duffy -170 in vegas

How many thousands you putting on him?

 

[Joseph Budden]

Duffy -170 in vegas

Lets take this time to acknowledge you are a genuine high roller but because you dont have #elite insecurities you dont feel the need to point it out all the time like some others. Respect.

Enjoy the mega money youll be making when you smash that line

 

[Shoulder]

Feel like I’m super heavy this event.

Bisping 1U
TJ 1.5U
JJ 2U
Mas 1.5U, KO 0.2U
Duffy 1.5U
Brown 1U
Borra 2U, 0.5U R1-2

 

[CR0W]

I feel like I have a good read on Randy Brown as a fighter overall, mentioned him a few years ago in a prospect thread when he was 4-0, he hasn't progressed as fast as I thought he would to be honest. I done a breakdown before his fight with Montano and pretty much predicted how the fight would play out and the choke off a sloppy takedown attempt (link to breakdown post)

Don't have the same time I used to have to do a full breakdown like that anymore but I like Gall here. He's very easy to overlook but his grappling is legit and although he's hardly the most refined fighter on the roster he is scrappy and finds a way to win, Gall rear naked choke would be my prediction.

 

[turbozed]

He's very easy to overlook but his grappling is legit and although he's hardly the most refined fighter on the roster he is scrappy and finds a way to win, Gall rear naked choke would be my prediction.

Hey man I appreciate you taking the time to answer the questions. I think we know his grappling is legit, but what in his MMA fights specifically make you think that'll translate well against a UFC caliber opponent? Like can you point to me a moment in any of his fights you watched (either slick TD ability, passing ability, or control, etc.). I'm a BJJ white belt so he's doing things that blue belts can do to me because since can't grapple (and it looks like none of Galls opponents could either).

Great breakdown btw. I'm also aware of Brown's faults since I took Belal Whatshisname ML that last fight. Do you think Gall's TD ability is enough to take Brown down when Belal couldn't for about 2 rounds and Gall is both lighter, weaker, and has worse wrestling than Belal?

Personally, the only way I see Brown getting taken down is if he tries to lock up a front head lock instead of sprawling. He has a great sprawl but he's not the smartest and doesn't always fight to win the meta game.

 

[Stunna77]

I feel Brown is the right side at these odds. Gall has never fought a legit WW, thus enjoying a reach advantage against the promoter, the wwe wrestler, and Sage, which is a big deal for someone who's striking is green. Not only does Brown have a 4" reach advantage, but he fights long. I don't feel Gall has the striking to consistenly get inside of Brown's reach and work tds. Add to that he was clearly fading against Sage and I don't like his chances here unless he can get an early sub. I see the fight playing out as this: Brown keeps Gall on the outside with his long jab and frustrates Gall into shooting from too far away. These shots keep getting stuffed and he begins fading with Brown picking up a clear dec or tko'ing him late.

I stabbed Brown TKO +310 and will probably be on him for 1u once reduced lines are available.

 

[SBJJ]

How many thousands you putting on him?

They only let me do a grand/to win

Fuckers

 

[betrayedlurker]

They only let me do a grand/to win

Fuckers

They've seen Vick's striking defence.

 

[Oblivian]

Hey man I appreciate you taking the time to answer the questions. I think we know his grappling is legit, but what in his MMA fights specifically make you think that'll translate well against a UFC caliber opponent? Like can you point to me a moment in any of his fights you watched (either slick TD ability, passing ability, or control, etc.). I'm a BJJ white belt so he's doing things that blue belts can do to me because since can't grapple (and it looks like none of Galls opponents could either).

Great breakdown btw. I'm also aware of Brown's faults since I took Belal Whatshisname ML that last fight. Do you think Gall's TD ability is enough to take Brown down when Belal couldn't for about 2 rounds and Gall is both lighter, weaker, and has worse wrestling than Belal?

Personally, the only way I see Brown getting taken down is if he tries to lock up a front head lock instead of sprawling. He has a great sprawl but he's not the smartest and doesn't always fight to win the meta game.

Why do you assume Gall is lighter and weaker than Belal? Belal should be at LW imo. I'm pretty sure Gall looks like the larger man next to Belal.

 

[SBJJ]

Man. How bad is CM Punk

 

[MMA Goodfella]

Yeah it's been down for me for the past 90 minutes or so.

Is 5D down for everyone else or is it just me?

It’s been down ever since Johny gave his maniacal interview during the media scrum where he made it known to anyone with a bit of sense that he is back and his reign of terror begins Saturday. He’s now training at Jackson’s and shits about to get more messy than quitting Tarantino film. Make no mistake, #TheBeard isn’t in the middleweight division to take part — it’s here to take over. Once he had the stare down with Bo-Ra on Thursday you could see the fear in the young Brazilians eyes and smart bettors saw it too. Thus they started plunking down money on the former OSU Cowboy. The sharp money recognizes that #Beard is back and it’s going to gut Bo-Ra like a fish and then wear his bronzer Brazilian skin for a Halloween costume.

5D and other offshore sports-books are at a massive liability of losing millions of dollars now that all the big money has flooded in on The Beard. So much so that they momentarily had to shut down shop because of the whales loading up on Rigg. The beard is out of it’s element in the progressive metropolis of NYC and it’s getting aggressive Plus it can smell GSP back in the arena"

... Rigg is coming at Borra like a truck without breaks and smart money can see it.

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