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UFC 210 - DC vs AJ 2 - Buffalo - II

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Weird to see DC backers acting as if what happened at the weigh ins actually didn't happen. Or even worse twist it around to have it favor DC. It's like watching politicians try to make a situation that was obviously bad into something different. Spinning and damage control. Just weird when the whole point is to digest the facts and make plays. I think this whole forum is in danger of becoming irrelevant if guys just ignore obvious shit because they want their plays to win. I'm in Vegas and was planning on betting DC when he started hitting dog status but I'm not touching him after that clusterfuck. And I'm not going to stick my head in the sand and act like it didn't happen. Hell, if AJ was a bit cheaper I'd be on him. I might still bet him at this price.

What yesterday showed is that all the shit going on with DC(NO CAIN, Getting older, more play by play) is PROBABLY having an effect on his training.
 
I also think anyone who bet DC before yesterday and is not honestly worried by this probably didn't really bet that much on him. I'd be very nervous if I had a decent bet on him
 
is there a physics guy here that can elaorate on how its possible to use a towel to elevate yourself to be lighter?
 
SBJJ said:
Weird to see DC backers acting as if what happened at the weigh ins actually didn't happen. Or even worse twist it around to have it favor DC. It's like watching politicians try to make a situation that was obviously bad into something different. Spinning and damage control. Just weird when the whole point is to digest the facts and make plays. I think this whole forum is in danger of becoming irrelevant if guys just ignore obvious shit because they want their plays to win. I'm in Vegas and was planning on betting DC when he started hitting dog status but I'm not touching him after that clusterfuck. And I'm not going to stick my head in the sand and act like it didn't happen. Hell, if AJ was a bit cheaper I'd be on him. I might still bet him at this price.

What yesterday showed is that all the shit going on with DC(NO CAIN, Getting older, more play by play) is PROBABLY having an effect on his training.
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People ITT are incredible at taking negatives and turning them into "confidence increases."
 
MMA Goodfella said:
I know it's juicy, but I think one of the best lines of the card is EMMETT NSC -200

Man, I just have a hard time seeing either (a) this not cash and/or (b) you not getting your money back.
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we talked about this at length.. i smashed it twice at -170, -195 on the opener, it shot up to -350, and then INEXPLICABLY it spiked down to even $, and is now back at -200
 
quincy k said:
is there a physics guy here that can elaorate on how its possible to use a towel to elevate yourself to be lighter?
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It's not complex physics. You can do it yourself; get on the scale and put your finger on a nearby wall/door/sink/whatever and push up or down on it ..see how easy it is to make the number change. A pound here or there is nothing.
 
mmfighting cucks picking rosa over burgos hmmm...

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quincy k said:
is there a physics guy here that can elaorate on how its possible to use a towel to elevate yourself to be lighter?
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To add to the other persons response, it works because the towel is being held by two people who are grounded, whatever force DC puts on the towel is distributed to the towel and through them into the ground not the scale.
 
What does everyone think for;

Over 11.5 fights go to distance @ +10500

There are lots of fights im confident going to a decision, and not that many fights I predict a finish. Wouldn't be a miracle to have 12/13 of fights going to decision.

Worth a shot imo.
 
SirKratos said:
What does everyone think for;

Over 11.5 fights go to distance @ +10500

There are lots of fights im confident going to a decision, and not that many fights I predict a finish. Wouldn't be a miracle to have 12/13 of fights going to decision.

Worth a shot imo.
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I have a hard time finding many finishes on this card
 
SBJJ said:
Weird to see DC backers acting as if what happened at the weigh ins actually didn't happen. Or even worse twist it around to have it favor DC. It's like watching politicians try to make a situation that was obviously bad into something different. Spinning and damage control. Just weird when the whole point is to digest the facts and make plays. I think this whole forum is in danger of becoming irrelevant if guys just ignore obvious shit because they want their plays to win. I'm in Vegas and was planning on betting DC when he started hitting dog status but I'm not touching him after that clusterfuck. And I'm not going to stick my head in the sand and act like it didn't happen. Hell, if AJ was a bit cheaper I'd be on him. I might still bet him at this price.

What yesterday showed is that all the shit going on with DC(NO CAIN, Getting older, more play by play) is PROBABLY having an effect on his training.
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Agreed. Also cutting weight only gets harder as one ages.

Hitting some props but no big bet here.
 
thesharktank said:
To add to the other persons response, it works because the towel is being held by two people who are grounded, whatever force DC puts on the towel is distributed to the towel and through them into the ground not the scale.
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Wtf do people seriously not understand how this works...

As a reference point someones clothes can be a few pounds. Even if DC didnt push on the towel but simply rested his hands that could be enough to "lose" a pound.
 
thesharktank said:
To add to the other persons response, it works because the towel is being held by two people who are grounded, whatever force DC puts on the towel is distributed to the towel and through them into the ground not the scale.
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im not qualifed in physics to make an argument but cormiers forearms and biceps arent even flexing. i would assume that if he is applying enough pressure on the towel to move the scales then he would have to have exerted some sort of force to where the ufc officials arms wouldve at least moved when cormier applied pressure.

also, daniel was given two hours to lose 1.2 and elected to come back in two minutes. its not like this towel incident happened after he already attempted to lose the weight(sauna,shit,cardio).
 
NinjaCat456 said:
It's not complex physics. You can do it yourself; get on the scale and put your finger on a nearby wall/door/sink/whatever and push up or down on it ..see how easy it is to make the number change. A pound here or there is nothing.
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i dont think it was the pressure.

i think it might be the weight of his hands resting on the towel
 
LEMONZEST said:
Wtf do people seriously not understand how this works...

As a reference point someones clothes can be a few pounds. Even if DC didnt push on the towel but simply rested his hands that could be enough to "lose" a pound.
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i just read your post and agree. it was the weight of cormiers hands if anything
 
SirKratos said:
What does everyone think for;

Over 11.5 fights go to distance @ +10500

There are lots of fights im confident going to a decision, and not that many fights I predict a finish. Wouldn't be a miracle to have 12/13 of fights going to decision.

Worth a shot imo.
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It's not a bad night to hit these props, agree. Only the ME would surprise me if it went the distance. Literally every other fight has at least a decent chance of seeing the cards.
 
quincy k said:
i dont think it was the pressure.

i think it might be the weight of his hands resting on the towel
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Same result. Any kind of interference like that is going to alter the number on the scale.
 
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