" UFC 160: Why Hunt vs. Dos Santos Was the Best Match in UFC Heavyweight History "

Don't agree. Also don't agree with his analysis of the wheel kick. It may have been strategically a good use of the kick, but the execution was slow, telegraphed and sloppy. To claim it was a better executed kick than Belfort's is just stupid.
 
Who knew what the doctors called stereotypy was just my head-banging awesomeness trying to come out? Time to get my 80s wardrobe together!
 
Nog Randy was top 3 for sure.

I'd put Fedor Arlovski there as well. At the time it was "no one has faced anyone like Arlovski" there was serious doubts all over the boards, and the way it went down and the way it ended was fantastic.

Mark and JDS put on one fucking crazy heavyweight brawl. Seriously, all nuthugging aside...that was a great fuckin' fight.
 
Best MMA Heavyweight STRIKING match? Sure. Best MMA Heavyweight fight? I don't think so personally. Great analysis as always though.
 
Definitely not the best, top 5 maybe though. People have posted better fights in here already.
 
It was a great fight. I hope that they fight again some time down the line. If Mark was able to put up such a great fight on short notice, with VISA issues and Jet Lag due to getting there a few days before the fight, think of how well he would do with a Full Camp.
 
What exactly did you find so remarkable? That he got the better of him standing, as many people have in the past, or just that he finished him with a flashy spinning kick? JDS didn't really do all that much, certainly not much that hasn't been done to Hunt before by people in K-1 like JLB or even in MMA by fucking Nishijima. Hunt has lax defense (never been a problem since his chin is insane and his style, like Chuck's, often solicits punishment by his opponent so as to allow him to return fire), sometimes he plods forward slow and tentatively (he had countless opportunities to pin JDS up against the cage and at least get a good two-punch combination in if not a flurry but instead he was content to just follow him around the perimeter), and sometimes he gets frustrated by an opponent's speed (Mirko's speed in their K-1 fight had Hunt completely stumped and Mirko was able to nullify Hunt's offense almost completely).

There was nothing revelatory in JDS' performance. He has big power and fast hands and a good chin, so he was able to land on Hunt a lot, cause damage when he landed, and withstand the few clean punches the slower and tentative Hunt was able to land on the rare occasions he committed to offense.
That's just it, the list of people who have been able to work hunt standing is pretty short. JLB, Cro Cop, Semmy, Sefo and Hoost is some seriously elite company. Prior to the Hunt fight I wouldn't have ranked JDS among them personally.

We've seen JDS beat a very over the hill CC, and Carwin, but we've also seen him repeatedly eat bombs vs Nelson and Cain. Hunt was the best striker he's faced thus far, certainly the most accomplished, and he completely dominated him. I wasn't surprised by his speed or power, but more his skill (and his chin) to be blunt.

If you expected that outcome, well props. :icon_chee
 
Maybe I missed something, but the two things that I took away were how amazing Hunt's chin was...and how JDS still managed to put him out.

It was a show and with a twist nobody could see coming, but I've seen better HW fights in the UFC...at least two anyway.
 
That's just it, the list of people who have been able to work hunt standing is pretty short. JLB, Cro Cop, Semmy, Sefo and Hoost is some seriously elite company. Prior to the Hunt fight I wouldn't have ranked JDS among them personally.

We've seen JDS beat a very over the hill CC, and Carwin, but we've also seen him repeatedly eat bombs vs Nelson and Cain. Hunt was the best striker he's faced thus far, certainly the most accomplished, and he completely dominated him. I wasn't surprised by his speed or power, but more his skill (and his chin) to be blunt.

If you expected that outcome, well props. :icon_chee

Not asking dickishly, legit curious: have you watched JDS-Nelson lately? I haven't in awhile, but one of us is remembering it incorrectly. I remember Roy landing maybe 1 clean shot on Cigano, not repeated bombs.

Again, not being facetious, just wondering if I need to check that one again.
 
That's just it, the list of people who have been able to work hunt standing is pretty short. JLB, Cro Cop, Semmy, Sefo and Hoost is some seriously elite company. Prior to the Hunt fight I wouldn't have ranked JDS among them personally.

Well, different guys fighting different versions of Hunt. The Hunt that Hoost fought was different from the Hunt JLB, Sefo, and Mirko fought, who was different than the Hunt Schilt and JDS fought.

I was surprised JDS was able to finish Hunt, but not very surprised he was able to win the striking battle, especially considering how sharp he is at this early point in his career and how much slower Hunt is at this late point in his career. It was a very even fight with both guys being far more tentative than they had been lately due to the respect they had for one another, but in the end it came down to JDS' speed. Both were cautious about opening up, but JDS was willing to throw more because he could count on his speed to keep him out of danger, whereas Hunt wasn't as willing to take his guns out of the holster and initiate offense the way he needed to, especially along the fence.

Hunt was the best striker he's faced thus far, certainly the most accomplished, and he completely dominated him.

I wouldn't say he dominated him. JDS landed more and landed bigger, but Hunt landed himself and got in some solid low kicks, too.

I wasn't surprised by his speed or power, but more his skill (and his chin) to be blunt.

His chin is pretty underrated, plus he only took one solid shot and Hunt didn't even get everything behind it. I was most surprised at how little Hunt threatened him, likely due to JDS' constant movement and Hunt's timidity with JDS' hand and foot speed.

If you expected that outcome, well props. :icon_chee

I couldn't possibly have expected a spinning kick KO and I'm not going to pretend to have after the fact, but JDS using his speed and punching power to outland Hunt was far from a surprise.

Not asking dickishly, legit curious: have you watched JDS-Nelson lately? I haven't in awhile, but one of us is remembering it incorrectly. I remember Roy landing maybe 1 clean shot on Cigano, not repeated bombs.

Again, not being facetious, just wondering if I need to check that one again.

He actually did eat quite a few punches from Nelson, particularly in the second round where Nelson was starting to find a home for his right hand.

Nice name, BTW.

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He actually did eat quite a few punches from Nelson, particularly in the second round where Nelson was starting to find a home for his right hand.
Well then...

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... I will defer to your judgment. I need to go back and watch my JDS vids, been meaning to do that.
 
Jack's fight strategy analyses certainly was astute.
What made this fight one of the best heavyweight fights ever was the sheer suspence, as both fighters gave it their best and could have ended the fight at any time.
Although Cigano outstruck Hunt, not only did they both land shots that would have taken out most other guys, Hunt remained a threat till the end.
It was phenomenal that Hunt survived Cigano's best overhand right, got up and continued to be a threat.
In the third round, Hunt noticeably slowed down but kept coming forward, leaving himself open to the wheel kick which dropped him. He still might have been Ok had Cigano's killer instinct not kicked in and Cigano finished him with that perfectly timed right, driving Hunt's head into the mat.
Just for the sheer suspence, very few fights equaled this one.
Hunt definitely deserves a Timax commercial.
 
It was phenomenal that Hunt survived Cigano's best overhand right, got up and continued to be a threat.

See, that for me was to be expected. I couldn't believe Rogan was acting so surprised that JDS wasn't trying to swarm Hunt after that shot. Has Joe not seen Hunt fight? Did he miss Hunt obliterating JLB after he landed a big shot and let his guard down?

JDS' composure was very impressive, he knew he wasn't going to Cain his way to a quick first round KO (yes, I'm using Cain as a verb) and that he'd have to chip away at Hunt's chin and wear down his energy before really catching him unaware with something late if he wanted to actually put him to sleep. . .and then out came the spinning calf :icon_chee
 
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