U.S. report on Russian hacking released.

I love that most of their report was about RT. I guess they're upset Americans use RT and al jazzera more often then the fake news msm.

Also I'd much prefer a war with Saudi Arabia...
 
IppoMakanuchi said:
RT is state sponsored media and acts at the behest of Putin, why are some insinuating that connection is a weak link?
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...If they are state-run, then 92% of our media is also under the same exact definition to you man.
 
Blackened said:
Yeah here's a source.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/colin-powell-u-n-speech-was-a-great-intelligence-failure/
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I was hoping for a list of the 16 intel agencies by name and country, but good enough. Here's the paragraph from your source. Not exactly convincing in favour of the CIA being the main conspirator, rather it puts the blame on Bush's administration.

When I was through, I felt pretty good about it. I thought we had made the case, and there was pretty good reaction to it for a few weeks. And then suddenly, the CIA started to let us know that the case was falling apart — parts of the case were falling apart. It was deeply disturbing to me and to the president, to all of us, and to the Congress, because they had voted on the basis of that information. And 16 intelligence agencies had agreed to it, with footnotes. None of the footnotes took away their agreement.
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Mentions specifically the CIA started to warn them that their case is falling apart...but obviously the CIA was complicit in building the case in the first place.

So excuse me if I withhold my judgement and am skeptical of the CIA. And don't believe that "no motive" for war with Russia. International banking is always a strong motive, especially when alliances jeopardize the U.S.'s position as leading superpower.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/sarahsu...conomic-alliance-on-the-horizon/#171f19693df9
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Again though, it's not just the CIA. It's virtually every major intel agency from Western Europe (Germany, Britain, Sweden, etc.) telling us that Russia engages in hybrid warfare and has done so for years, with the specific goal in mind to promote populist agendas. And as for the motive of international banking....please explain how a world at nuclear war is better for international finance than a stable world with free trade?
 
People are still mad that truth was released without being approved by DNC outlets?

So that's why people are still mad, because one candidate had too many secrets and was incapable of keeping them hidden from the public?

I know the DNC has cute little phrases like "Hack the election" and "influence the results", which are completely disingenuous at best, but what specifically are they claiming hurt Clinton?

Which piece of specific information hurt Clinton? Which leak was it that turned the coronation in which the press DNC thought she had a 90+% of winning, to her losing?

Why would any of this information hurt Clinton at all?


again...
"Damn you Russia!! You better never expose one particular party's political corruptness again!"
 
Grenz said:
I was hoping for a list of the 16 intel agencies by name and country, but good enough. Here's the paragraph from your source. Not exactly convincing in favour of the CIA being the main conspirator, rather it puts the blame on Bush's administration.
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Good thing I didn't make that claim, I just said 16 Intel agencies.

There are plenty of other sources. I just grabbed the first one on google. I remembered it from a Colin Powell interview from like 15 years ago.

And I never claimed "nuclear war is better for international finance than a stable world with free trade?". Also, it's cute Janet Yellen or Bernake thinks they love free trade, but write a thousand pages of regulations like NAFTA. LOL, free trade. It's a trick!

There are betters ways of accomplishing the maintenance of power than nuclear war.

It's also cute "Mr Transparent administration Obama" is so against the "hacks", LOL!
 
Victor Maitland said:
The leftists want war with Russia because the :eek::eek::eek::eek: Podesta got his email phished..
The man who had his password set as "password" . Somebody save them from their own madness.
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Pa$$word bro , bigly difference there .
 
Grenz said:
16? Got a source on that? I seem to remember that there was a lot of division over the WMD issues, with a lot of NATO members for example, not buying in.

I get that the CIA has fucked around in the past. No denying that. But there was a clear motive (several actually) in 2002/3 for falsifying information to justify the invasion of Iraq. There is no clear motive for wanting to go to war with the second largest nuclear power on the planet.

There is however motive for Putin to prefer Trump. We know that Putin supports populist politicians in Europe (Marie Le Pen is practically on his payroll). All major intel agencies in Europe have been telling us that Russia has been pulling this same shit on them for years. The German police force for example finds it necessary to hold regular press conferences just to debunk fake news planted by Russia.

Yes, maybe it's all some elaborate story that everyone is in on. But that makes a lot less sense than the narrative that's actually being pushed. Russia has a lot to gain from supporting populist politicians, but European and North American free countries have nothing but mutually assured destruction to gain from a war with Russia.
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We arent going to war imo , but this is gonna be the trojan horse to clamp down on the internet and the free flow of information in general. Look around , half of you fucks are begging for it, begging for someone to decide what the actual truth is and where you can get it from. We are getting ready to take a few steps closer to the Russian or chinese style of throttling information.
 
Al Gorithm said:
Whats " lol" about it ? You think Russia with their 5000 or so nukes is gonna stand by idley while we bomb the shit out of them? THAT is lol worthy!
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Lol. You think Russian nukes could reach America successfully. That's cute.
 
SleepyBoy said:
People are still mad that truth was released without being approved by DNC outlets?

So that's why people are still mad, because one candidate had too many secrets and was incapable of keeping them hidden from the public?

I know the DNC has cute little phrases like "Hack the election" and "influence the results", which are completely disingenuous at best, but what specifically are they claiming hurt Clinton?

Which piece of specific information hurt Clinton? Which leak was it that turned the coronation in which the press DNC thought she had a 90+% of winning, to her losing?

Why would any of this information hurt Clinton at all?


again...
"Damn you Russia!! You better never expose one particular party's political corruptness again!"
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You're an idiot if you believe comprising your security data that probably holds your entire bank account to the Russian's just so you can be like "got ya".

Stil lol in hard at how stupid Americans are that they'd rather compromise national security to take a dig at the Liberals.

{<jordan}
 
Al Gorithm said:
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...QPa2zJqkoLAZNiRUQ&sig2=uJUJ4ojy0Jbj1aThvF3IrA
the US's nuclear weapons compare to Russia's
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.bu...clear-weapons-2016-9?client=ms-android-att-us

What do you base your belief that they cant on ? Some dumbfuck notion , thats what!


Go ahead and throw up some evidence to the contrary.
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A dumbfuck notion is that your googling is going to give you an accurate intelligence report on nuclear arsenals of the world.
 
DevilsLettuce said:
A dumbfuck notion is that your googling is going to give you an accurate intelligence report on nuclear arsenals of the world.
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Fair enough , Where do you get your information ?






An inkling , a waste product of your imagination! Very compelling stuff mane!


" no way can they do that "

Source - 36 year old underemployed pot farmer from spokane
 
SlicerDM said:
You're an idiot if you believe comprising your security data that probably holds your entire bank account to the Russian's just so you can be like "got ya".

Stil lol in hard at how stupid Americans are that they'd rather compromise national security to take a dig at the Liberals.

{<jordan}
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WTF are you talking about? What does this have to do with my post?
Anyways, my personal info has been and will be compromised many times by various companies and government agencies. Maybe I should Nuke Yahoo or Sony?

Lol at the DNC for whining about joining the "My privacy has been violated club" with the rest of us.
 
DevilsLettuce said:
Lol. You think Russian nukes could reach America successfully. That's cute.
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Since they paid off their USSR debt, Russian military spending has skyrocketed, and they have modernized their military. Can their nukes reach US cities? Who knows man.

What I do know is that they do not need to hit US cities in order to cripple American economy. In case of a global war, there are plenty of targets they can hit near them that would plummet the US dollar and cause absolute chaos in our cities.
 
SleepyBoy said:
WTF are you talking about? What does this have to do with my post?
Anyways, my personal info has been and will be compromised many times by various companies and government agencies. Maybe I should Nuke Yahoo or Sony?

Lol at the DNC for whining about joining the "My privacy has been violated club" with the rest of us.
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Funny, since under this administration, the NSA surveillance was actually ratcheted up. Also funny that people still think the US government represents them and has their interests at heart.
Again, another funny little thing is all of a sudden becoming concerned about "national security" despite HRC's negligence regarding the matter. And by the same ones that voted for her. Let's not forget that if anything this is a serious black eye for the Obama administration.
They have no credibility, and not to be taken seriously.
 
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