Media *** Tyson Fury vs. Francis Ngannou Post Fight Discussion MEGATHREAD ***

How does the fight go?

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anyways, I don't think the odds will pay very well, no one's talking about ngannou winning. The real fight is Usyk and I say again, Fury is fucking up not tending to his business.
 
Casuals know the HW champion of the world. Big gypsy guy, mental health, HW champ- yeah they know that guy.

Hardcore fight fans/ MMA fans know who the ":whatever rank he is" guy in the LW division of UFC is. Some guy with 8 losses who didn't ever (? am I wrong?) win the UFC belt? Yeah good luck with that huge crossover recognition. No one has heard of this guy in the general public. Not even a criticism , most Aussies only know Charlo bro's because they duck Timofey Tszyu.
 
I think it’ll be a no contest. Something weird is going to happen.
 
mozfonky said:
has it really been that long? i swear, time is just slipping away from me.
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Yep, 2017... A lot people back then suspected that he would never fight again after that massive payday.
And they were kinda right, because essentially McGregor has been less than a part-time athlete since then... 4 fights, 3 losses and each loss by stoppage.

He talks more about fighting this and that guy, but rarely takes fights.
 
defjaam said:
Yep, 2017... A lot people back then suspected that he would never fight again after that massive payday.
And they were kinda right, because essentially McGregor has been less than a part-time athlete since then... 4 fights, 3 losses and each loss by stoppage.

He talks more about fighting this and that guy, but rarely takes fights.
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The Mayweather beatdown, with a massive payday attached, essentially ruined McGregor as a fighter.
 
Zarathustra611 said:
Casuals know the HW champion of the world. Big gypsy guy, mental health, HW champ- yeah they know that guy.

Hardcore fight fans/ MMA fans know who the ":whatever rank he is" guy in the LW division of UFC is. Some guy with 8 losses who didn't ever (? am I wrong?) win the UFC belt? Yeah good luck with that huge crossover recognition. No one has heard of this guy in the general public. Not even a criticism , most Aussies only know Charlo bro's because they duck Timofey Tszyu.
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what the fuck are you yammering about
 
burningspear said:
Maybe; but that event (2nd all time ppv) launched him to mega stardom, a money making machine away from fighting.
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He lost a lot of confidence afterwards and his drive along with it. Got wrecked by a smaller guy not known for his power (after his hands became brittle) and all of that loot made him lazy. Fighting Floyd was both the best and worst thing to ever happen to him.
 
spinup said:
Extremely useful and informative 3s clip from 6 years ago in MMA sparring against a LW in a crowded space.
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That doesn't really excuse how terrible Ngannou's boxing looks. He had already had an exhibition boxing match against Takam a couple years prior and was the UFC's top heavyweight contender at the time. I've seen gym novices look better. It's certainly a bad look no matter how you cut it.
 
Kovalev's "Man Bag" said:
That doesn't really excuse how terrible Ngannou's boxing looks. He had already had an exhibition boxing match against Takam a couple years prior and was the UFC's top heavyweight contender at the time. I've seen gym novices look better. It's certainly a bad look no matter how you cut it.
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One would wonder how no one in the UFC could take advantage of facing an unskilled novice to knock him out. Funny how guys like Stipe or JDS boast better boxing technique but got totally outboxed (at least on the rematch for Stipe).

FWIW, Joe Joyce's boxing looks like shit pretty much all the time, Dillian Whyte looks like shit quite frequently, same for Chisora. Slow, flat footed, defensively open.

Make no mistake, I still think Fury is a way better boxer than Ngannou. But I would give Ngannou better chances than Whyte and Chisora and I think he will look better than them. Let's see if I am wrong.
 
spinup said:
One would wonder how no one in the UFC could take advantage of facing an unskilled novice to knock him out. Funny how guys like Stipe or JDS boast better boxing technique but got totally outboxed (at least on the rematch for Stipe).

FWIW, Joe Joyce's boxing looks like shit pretty much all the time, Dillian Whyte looks like shit quite frequently, same for Chisora. Slow, flat footed, defensively open.

Make no mistake, I still think Fury is a way better boxer than Ngannou. But I would give Ngannou better chances than Whyte and Chisora and I think he will look better than them. Let's see if I am wrong.
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Fury isn't Stipe or JDS though is he? Joyce's boxing does look like shit but not THAT bad. The form Ngannou showed in that clip, or lack thereof, was absolutely horrendous for a prizefighter whether they're a boxer, MMA fighter, or kickboxer. Ngannou will struggle mightily to hit Fury. He'll be reaching with his punches before long and getting countered. I expect him to try and use the jab to close distance but he'll abandon it as soon as he realizes he can't land it on a moving target. Ngannou might hit harder than Whyte but he's not as skilled. If Fury doesn't stop him by the mid rounds I'll be surprised.
 
Kovalev's "Man Bag" said:
The form Ngannou showed in that clip, or lack thereof, was absolutely horrendous for a prizefighter whether they're a boxer, MMA fighter, or kickboxer.
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You will see Wilder throw shit just as bad from time to time, yet he is a very skilled boxer.

Kovalev's "Man Bag" said:
Ngannou will struggle mightily to hit Fury. He'll be reaching with his punches before long and getting countered. I expect him to try and use the jab to close distance but he'll abandon it as soon as he realizes he can't land it on a moving target. Ngannou might hit harder than Whyte but he's not as skilled. If Fury doesn't stop him by the mid rounds I'll be surprised.
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He will probably struggle to land, just like every one.
But frankly, from what I've seen, he is faster, more mobile and longer than Whyte, and also quite accurate. He also can be dangerous in the clinch an dirty boxing exchanges.
Question mark on his conditioning and energy management, but he seems to have worked hard on it.
 
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